Ed Joyce

[aussie_ben91]

I wasn't moaning about England in particular. It's just my opinon from who I am, I wish you had to be full-blooded to play for a particular country.

And yeah thanks btw, for posting that list. I may aswell go jump off a bridge now!

 

[sd92]

Why would you do that?

 

[Will_NA]

I wasn't moaning about England in particular. It's just my opinon from who I am, I wish you had to be full-blooded to play for a particular country.

And yeah thanks btw, for posting that list. I may aswell go jump off a bridge now!

I don't see you complaining about Andrew Symonds' selection?

 

[aussie_ben91]

Why would you do that?

I spouse you aren't farmilar with the term, sarcasim?

I don't see you complaining about Andrew Symonds' selection?

And when did at any point I start naming anyone in particular?

 

[Will_NA]

And when did at any point I start naming anyone in particular?

You have said you wish players had to full-blooded to play for a national team yet you have made no noise about Australia not being fully Australian.

 

[aussie_ben91]

Well I was clearly not questioned about it before the present was I? The topic was on an Irish player who played for England.

Symonds shouldn't of been allowed to play for Australia from the start if his got English parents. Nor should any other player in World Cricket who has a similar situation.

It's not something I feel as strong about because it's to late and it'll never happen anyways but it's something I'd prefer to see.

 

[sd92]

I spouse you aren't farmilar with the term, sarcasim?

Very familiar actually, its one of my favourite things of all

 

[Sureshot]

I spouse you aren't farmilar with the term, sarcasim?

Are you?

And are you a spouse Ben?
http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/cha...ery=Spouse&title=21st&sourceid=Mozilla-search

I think you meant suppose.

Isn't it funny how the Australians who moan about England picking players born overseas tend to go quiet almost every time I post that list?

That's about the 3rd time you've posted the list, the response is so predictable too

 

[sd92]

To be fair, he did say everytime i post the list, meaning he had posted it before

 

[Sureshot]

I know that...

 

[RoboRocks]

Symonds shouldn't of been allowed to play for Australia from the start if his got English parents. Nor should any other player in World Cricket who has a similar situation.

You probably won't complain though.

 

[Simbazz]

Look, why is everyone having these arguements. Myself, im American and English, given the international option it'd be England, my Parents are English, and its where i live now. Andrew Symonds although born here is a full bloodied Aussie. KP, well he served his qualification, and is now pouring sweat and blood for England, as his knock today proved!

 

[Almost_Austwick]

I'm fully in the camp that providing it's possible (to play at international level) you should only qualify to play for the country that your were born in or the nationality of your parents (to cover moves abroad, being born on holiday etc).

However, cricket is only played at the highest levels in a small number of countries meaning that if you want to reach the top but you were born in Belgium you're going to have to qualify for another country. As long as this is done within the rules then I'll accept it.

What is wrong though is the fact that as things stand players can turn out for 2 or more countries as in the Ed Joyce case (and possibly others in future years). Joyce should have made a choice early on - Ireland or England and not both.

I understand that its not always as simple as that but there needs to be tighter regulations or else we are going to get the stupid situation of players turning out for 2 or 3 test nations rendering the international game almost pointless.

 

[Simbazz]

Quite right A_A, If a player grabs a cap from one country, his loyalties lay with that country. As you said it isnt as easy as that, but generally, If you get a debut with Ireland, you stick!

 

[Almost_Austwick]

What makes the Joyce case ironic is that he's now a lot lower down the pecking order for England and Ireland have full ODI status.

What would happen if Ireland were to be given test status tomorrow, does he have to re-qualify or could he just walk straight back in as he's never played a test?