England In India - October 2011/12

BUT Broad is showing more signs of maturity, quite why he was left to his 'rite of passage' in the England team without, it seems, anyone telling him to pitch up or ship out I don't know.

There's something not quite right here for me. Everyone has been yelling "pitch it up" at Broad for ages. He claims not to read the press but Chris Broad says that he does (thanks dad!) and there's no way David Saker hasn't been telling him to bowl fuller. Add that to then fact we all went through this two years ago when he bowled Australia out at the Oval.
The only thing wrong before was the execution and that comes down to Broad himself.
 
It's confirmed, Jonathon Trott will bat at some point in the England innings.
 
He had 2 ball of practice this morning and went in pain.
 
Michael Vaughan and Matthew Hoggard are in a bit of trouble for some banter. Ravi Shastri is a pillock though - you wouldn't get this kind of whining from an Australian.

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It's confirmed, Jonathon Trott will bat at some point in the England innings.

They said the same about Zaheer Khan bowling in the second innings of the Lord's Test..
 
There's something not quite right here for me. Everyone has been yelling "pitch it up" at Broad for ages. He claims not to read the press but Chris Broad says that he does (thanks dad!) and there's no way David Saker hasn't been telling him to bowl fuller. Add that to then fact we all went through this two years ago when he bowled Australia out at the Oval.

The only thing wrong before was the execution and that comes down to Broad himself.

Well then there was nothing wrong with what you've quoted as I said "without, it seems, anyone telling him to pitch up or ship out I don't know." with the point being he should have been doing as told or told to sling his hook - the latter didn't happen. So something was wrong within the camp, not with what I was saying, or trying to say.

And wasn't a common belief, I saw it a few times on here, that he was being told to be an "enforcer" ? The whole situation was a farce, whatever reason he was bowling too short should have been addressed by the selectors, captain, coach or his whole team, either telling him to stop doing it, or by not picking him. It didn't happen, whether he reads the papers or listens to the media.

And I will question the amount to which the media campaigned about Broad, there's a world of difference between talk of him not cutting it and calls for him to be axed which was pretty much the consensus of opinion before the series started. I think a number before that subscribed (to varying degrees) to the whole "enforcer" concept

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Michael Vaughan and Matthew Hoggard are in a bit of trouble for some banter. Ravi Shastri is a pillock though - you wouldn't get this kind of whining from an Australian.

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I can't see England not asking Trott to bat unless he physically can't hold the bat. I suspect if he did show pain when facing a few balls that they were seeing if he could bat without giving him (lots of) painkillers...................... (a fairly logical conclusion)
 
Ball not doing that much at the moment.

Hope we will get one more wicket within our lead...
 
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"Has Vaseline on the outside edge saved the day for Laxman???"

Is what Vaughan said
 
Some of the Indians throwing abuse around is disgusting. Think they are scared they might go 2-0 down.
 
Some of the Indians throwing abuse around is disgusting. Think they are scared they might go 2-0 down.

I dont think so, people thought this the same way last time when Australia cheated. The abuse is just the emotions. If here in India if anyone saw Ravi Shastri speaking in Cricket Extra, he was fuming.

He said "England just have problem with everything India does. First IPL,then DRS,they bloody cant mind their own business. BCCI are powerful and they need to accept the fact and move on.Their only problem is they cannot be number 1 and thats the reason they cry over small issues"

This was after he heard what Vaughan commented
 

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