England In India - October 2011/12
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Overall I think we just about deserved it, after the first 6 or so overs of India's innings we bowled and fielded very well.
Morgan and KP were good with the bat. Bopara was a bit meh, on the other hand he still got some runs, at least it wasn't 5 from 5 or some such. Dernbach was very good with the ball again.
Entertaining match.
Morgan and KP were good with the bat. Bopara was a bit meh, on the other hand he still got some runs, at least it wasn't 5 from 5 or some such. Dernbach was very good with the ball again.
Entertaining match.
Pathetic commentator from a 'donkey' Hussain! Even England had moments today of sloppy work on the field. So those fielders are 'donkeys'? Such an moronic idiot, Hussain, to use such a word on another human being.
Have to agree there, was really stupid of him to use such a word.
Btw, was Morgan anywhere near wrong in not walking off immediately following Rohit Sharma's catch? Gavaskar was literally mad at him (didn't shout, was rather evident from his sarcastic tone), claiming he doubted if Morgan would ever walk, even if his stumps were to clatter, since that first innings dismissal at Lord's. Ridiculous accusation to say the least!
Considering what I've heard about Gavaskar about the review system during the Tests, I am not surprised.
Morgan was well within his rights to stand his ground and ask for it to be referred to 3rd umpire. No ifs, no buts. May not have been what they did 40 years ago, but the game has moved on so immensely that it's irrelevant.
Morgan was well within his rights to stand his ground and ask for it to be referred to 3rd umpire. No ifs, no buts. May not have been what they did 40 years ago, but the game has moved on so immensely that it's irrelevant.
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Was that Lords dismissal the one that wasn't out? Been so much recently I can't remember. It was hard to tell if he had caught it cleanly from the replays and that's exactly why they have replays. Everything I hear about Shastry and inparticular, Gavaskar, suggests they aren't the biggest fans of England/English cricket. I'm sure they have their reasons...
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All I ever hear from Gavaskar is complete and utter drivel, that man is one of the biggest voices in cricket, such a shame he is also one of the biggest pillocks! Such a bias man and so far up the BCCI's ass, when they make a statement Gavaskar's mouth moves!
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Pathetic commentator from a 'donkey' Hussain!
Wait a sec, is that what Gavaskar said?!
s2sschan
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Gavaskar and Shashtri are WAY past their expiry dates. They have nothing new to add and they are paid employees of the BCCI.
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A succession of poor performances in the recent test almost cost the Indians even their T20 international status.
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Reckon England with the have potentially stumbled on their best T20 XI looking ahead to the world-cup defense next year.
Only player who position is questionable sitll is Bopara, but his all-rounder skill is whats keeping him in the side. Collingwood can certainly feel he has a great chance of getting back in this team if his form can improve domestically.
Only player who position is questionable sitll is Bopara, but his all-rounder skill is whats keeping him in the side. Collingwood can certainly feel he has a great chance of getting back in this team if his form can improve domestically.
s2sschan
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Pathetic commentator from a 'donkey' Hussain!
It makes Cricket entertaining...need grumpy Hussain there.
Better than those BCCI Servants.
Speaking of Servants (and Lords), England are playing like Lords
I disagree, and think some foreigners are way too sensitive to words that they might find offensive but how's about instead of expecting everyone else to understand their culture etc, they understand our's.................? I wouldn't like it if someone called me a donkey, but I wouldn't throw a wobbly over it. It's one of the lesser 'insults', if he'd called then 'useless c**ts' then fair enough be 'outraged'.
To me 'dumbass' is a nothing insult, yanks get all upset about it. Shows the difference in cultures, and I don't mean yanks and indians are oversensitive drama queens, I mean to one culture one word is a mild compared to it's perception in another.
And the woman that they wanted to flog because she called a teddy bear, well I won't say what, but let's just say muslims didn't take kindly to it. To her it was a name, you see loads of cricketers called it so why should she think you can't call a teddy bear it?!?!? People are different, I'm sure Hussain (Nasser I assume) wasn't setting out to offend the population of India.
What does irritate me is the way waves of certain nationalities are up in arms about what ONE person SAID. It's his opinion, who says speech has 'freedom', it's not even like his opinion matters - doesn't make it a 'fact' that needs to be challenged in a court of law with the death penalty hanging over his head
Unlike the guy in USA who wanted to burn the Koran, a deliberate act so somewhat different to use of words.
I will say at this point that is my last comment on the matter, while I don't wish to make a statement and not have 'right to reply', I would like to point out that it wasn't my intention to say that much, or indeed to go off topic, so if we can keep replies to a minimum (trust me, I won't read them) and stay on topic that would be appreciated by me, mods and most. You could blame me for taking it off topic, but the person who tossed toys out of his pram over the word 'donkey' is to blame
Not sure I care that England won, India don't look like they care much about this tour and just want to get home. The real test for England will be the ODIs, I fear if England do win it may be clouded in doubt over the 'integrity' of the result. I don't mean offence and I am in no way suggesting India will go out to lose, I'm struggling for a good word to say the result may be partly down to India's long tour, fatigue and the 0-4 Test series defeat may just make them a 'spent force' I think most level headed people will understand where I'm coming from, it's like killing a wounded tiger, had the tiger been unharmed you wonder if you would have killed it at all/so easily.
I think the beast may bite back, I'm just saying that if England win will it be because they're now a force in ODIs or because India just want to go home and have been demoralised by events preceding the ODIs. I prefer ODIs before the Tests, for one they can make up time in Tests, play during the day and don't necessarily last the five days. I'd rather have one Test result decided by rain and bad light (drawn) than have ODI series results decided by D/L.
Whether or not D/L is a good way of deciding shortened matches, I prefer results where both sides play the same number of overs (preferably 50 each) and there's no "X won by Y runs (D/L method)". What's the point one side scoring however many runs and the other side chasing a totally different target over a different number of overs?!?!?! If anything "just isn't cricket" then that is. Why not have one side bat 50 overs and the other 20 overs? No wait, that is possible and may happen one day (no pun intended) if it hasn't already. In Tests they bat different lengths of time and in different conditions, but that is part of the game (format).
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