England In India - October 2011/12

[Themer]

Its really quite suprising how little interest there is in ODI/Twenty20 cricket in England. Possibly linked to the fact that we're not very good at it (although we did use to be and did win the Twenty20 World Cup) or the fact we as a country cling on to tradition like a limpet to rock (and thus Tests).

I'm not watching the match, Tests are where its at and are so much better to watch regardless of who's playing.

 

[Owzat]

I've just finished reading Graeme Swann's book where he makes it pretty clear that the England players don't really give a damn about ODI cricket.
Just how it should be

I want England to win a World Cup, Test cricket is all well and good but just goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on, with no start or end and being top is a status not a trophy.

Not a good start for England, blob and blob at the top of the order and Trott for some reason deciding to score quickly in that situation. BUT it is a chance for Pietersen, Bopara, Bairstow and Patel to make their respective marks, Pietersen to turn it on in ODIs as he hasn't been so much, the rest to prove their worth.

It will be interesting to see how Cook tries to defend this, I'm guessing he'll turn to Bopara and Patel middle overs as usual whether India are 100/4 or 100/0. That is of course assuming England don't rip India a new one which is always a possibility, but based on a modest total I'll be interested to see if he applies captaincy or thinks it's just going through some preset motions that never worked.

I'm working on that set of stats, last 101 ODIs since the 2007 World Cup and am about halfway. Based on the matches analysed so far, England have won only two of the 17 games they haven't taken 10 wickets in (excluding D/L affected matches) while winning 13 of the 16 games they've taken 10 wickets in. D/L they've won 9 of the 10 games to produce a result and lost only one which shows how D/L affects games and maybe favours the lesser bowling side.

Bops outscoring Pietersen, maybe KP's form is weighing on his mind.

 

[Gaurav_7]

KP and left arm spinners. There's history but, this is something different.

 

[RPHKR]

50 partnership between Pieterson and Bopara.
Pieterson hit two consecutive sixes !
England is gaining momentum.

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Partnership broke down by Ashwin.
Bopara out-LBW.

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Nice bowling by Vinay today,
Another wicket goes down! Umesh Yadav now!

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Pieterson goes out, edging to Dhoni.

 

[jacobfelix]

The 73 run partnership between Kevin-Bopara was giving a hint that England might get up to a good score....but a double blow....

And here comes Samit Patel Again these 2 have got to do the repair job...But some English supporters here would want Samit to be dismissed now itself...

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Wow....Our Vinay got a 4 wkt haul..... C

Considering the 41st over score...they fell short by atleast 20 runs...Good bowling by us there....

 

[puddleduck]

I do not appreciate paying for Sky Player service and not being able to watch the one sport I basically pay for. Is this Indian TV broadcaster's fault? Is it Sky's fault? What the hell is happening

I dislike using illegal streams, which is why I pay for the service. Leaves me with no choice again

@ Themer, glad Swanny wrote that, because for whatever reason, I've always viewed ODI cricket as a sideshow, sometimes an entertaining one, but a sideshow nonetheless. 5 game series are at least 2 games too long.

Appaling how many batsman got to 35-45 today. When you're in, just keep going!

 

[Gaurav_7]

It is the first time ever in my life I have felt good and pleased after watching the Indians bowl. The pacers, mainly. They were keen, they kept running in and Yadav was nice. He had that pace, I just hope there's some better time ahead for us in the pace department.

 

[Owzat]

Appaling how many batsman got to 35-45 today. When you're in, just keep going!

I suppose you can cut them some slack, losing both openers for ducks leaves you needing to get in and then try some acceleration to try and post a defendable total. From 0/2 then 48/3 and 121/5 I'd say England did well to post anything near 250.

But we have to defend that total with three seamers of whom two are not in form as per my earlier post (Dernbach and Bresnan), Swann and then a back up of Bopara and Patel. The total won't be enough unless one of the seamers and Swann rips the Indian order apart. I think we may need to make early inroads, their tail looks quite long with Jadeja, Ashwin, Kumar, Yadav and Kumar (not saying it's weak, but if they're say 150/5 then game on)

 

[Rohit Doshi]

Gambhir needs one good knock over 50. If her gets that he will be mammoth for the rest of the series.

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I've just finished reading Graeme Swann's book where he makes it pretty clear that the England players don't really give a damn about ODI cricket.
Just how it should be

Seriously its just cowardly thinking. Its just like I am not good at this I wont do this. Stay in my comfort zone and climb up the ranking by playing in my comfort zone.

How much ever bullies BCCI or Indian cricket has been, they atleast play positive cricket. They have faced humiliation atmost in England still they are playing positive cricket here back in India. Its not like, we dont play good in away conditions we dont play away I agree Test Cricket is the best format but you have to respect the game of cricket. Whichever form it is. Highly unprofessional from Graeme and whoever thinks to give a damn about ODI cricket

 

[Rohit Doshi]

Good innings from Kohli once again. Man he plays beautifully!! 100 Partnership for Gambhir and Kohli. Cook's captaincy has been pretty awful seriously. He needs to react under pressure instead of just biting nails

 

[SaiSrini]

Holy cow! This one is going to be another crushing win. Kohli need 23 for his hundred, Gambhir needs 32 for his hundred, and India need 55 to win the game. What co-incidence!

Winning it inside 40 overs with either of the batsman getting a hundred and both remaining undefeated would be a major thrashing. This is slowly reminding us of that 5-0 win in 2008 before the Mumbai attacks. Damn this series should have had test matches instead of a pointless series against West Indies. We want to show England that they are poorer travelers than what we are.

 

[Sedition]

Haven't read Swann's book, probably not worth the paper it's printed on, but nice of him to come out and say that while even still "representing his country" and collecting cheques from ODI's.

 

[Aalay]

What an awesome player Kohli is. Just love watching him play. Bowlers were solid,too.

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Holy cow! This one is going to be another crushing win. Kohli need 23 for his hundred, Gambhir needs 32 for his hundred, and India need 55 to win the game. What co-incidence!

Winning it inside 40 overs with either of the batsman getting a hundred and both remaining undefeated would be a major thrashing. This is slowly reminding us of that 5-0 win in 2008 before the Mumbai attacks. Damn this series should have had test matches instead of a pointless series against West Indies. We want to show England that they are poorer travelers than what we are.

Well, of course (Captain Style)

 

[aayush93]

England can't win with this lineup if it is 50 overs game..

They need rain affected matches, so overs are reduced because their batting is just too weak to play full 50 overs..

About cook, he is not suited to ODI and even Harbhajan Singh is better captain than him.

 

[Gurjot95]

6.49 run rate, having 29/2 at one stage and without Sachin and Sehwag. That's complete Ownage! Good work.