England In India - October 2011/12

The Indians only have themselves to blame for the injuries - World Cup then IPL then West Indies then England with no break means people WILL break down.

Off to see Day 5 of the game tomorrow; free if I can pass as under 16 :D

Your theory is out the window considering the ones who are 'injured' haven't played all that cricket. Also, Zaheer's was the only proper cricketing injury because he was undercooked. Sachin is just ill and could have happened to anyone whereas Gambhir was just unlucky, although that's the risk you take at that position.

They aren't really down to playing mass cricket.
 
Dam! Prior really is on fire with the bat in this match. Much better spell by Sharma this was what I meant in one of my earlier post.

Can't see India chasing this down with all the injuries I'm hearing about.
 
What about Dhoni? Commies were suggesting that India were below the over rate, if he faces a ban next game it can't get any worse for India.

Quite possible. The ICC have repeatedly said that anyone who incurs 3 offences will get the book thrown at them, which is a match ban. To be perfectly honest he might get a bit of leeway for the first innings but he was deliberately slowing the game down today. Bringing himself on when it was obvious England were on the verge of declaring was bordering on unsportsmanshiply behaviour in my opinion. He was well aware he'd be bowling 2 overs or so maximum.

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Would be a shame for the series though so I kinda hope he gets away with it this time, especially on the back of the other injuries and like.
 
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The Indians only have themselves to blame for the injuries - World Cup then IPL then West Indies then England with no break means people WILL break down.

Off to see Day 5 of the game tomorrow; free if I can pass as under 16 :D

Thats the case only with Zaheer. As far as Gambhir goes, its unfortunate and it happens. With Sachin too, viral infections and fever are unfortunate but they happen. I bet Sachin will surely bat tomorrow if he is required to. Hope Gambhir's injury is not serious. As Ganguly said in the commentary box, the part of the bone where he took a hit does not break that easily.

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What about Dhoni? Commies were suggesting that India were below the over rate, if he faces a ban next game it can't get any worse for India.

I am more worried about the fitness of Gambhir, Sachin and Zaheer. Even if Dhoni misses the 2nd test, no problem. Wriddhiman Saha is there as backup and Gambhir (if fit) can captain. Maybe that will be even better for us because Saha is a decent test batsman (I would dare say technically more stronger than Dhoni).

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In all this drama, forget to talk about Ishant's brilliant spell in the morning. OMFG!!! That was brilliant. Boy Ishant has really stormed back with a bang in test cricket and he is now the highest wicket taker among bowlers in tests in 2011. Proved that the show in WI was no flash in the pan. As I said earlier here, his first innings show was more because of his slow-ness to adjust to the change in conditions from WI to England (he also didnt play the Somerset match). Now if only Sreesanth rediscovers his mojo (pray!). I dont think we really need Zaheer. Here we just needed a decent 4th bowler (instead of Raina and Dhoni bowling) and we needed a captain who went for the kill instead of worrying about his ban in the next match (idiotic of Dhoni!).
 
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For those calling for Dhoni's head:

"I am also human. I have a body to look after and there are three more Test matches. I had bowled 11 overs in the first session and during the break, Dhoni asked me if I wanted to bowl straightaway after lunch or if I preferred a break. I said I wanted a break," Ishant told reporters.
 
Oh lord how I will miss Dhoni in next match. :(

Lets hope they can be really nice to him and avoid his ban.
 
I think Dhoni will play. There is always a bit of slack when India is involved.

I would hate to see the likes of Wridhi playing in such an important series tbh. Just is not ready.
 
For those calling for Dhoni's head:

"I am also human. I have a body to look after and there are three more Test matches. I had bowled 11 overs in the first session and during the break, Dhoni asked me if I wanted to bowl straightaway after lunch or if I preferred a break. I said I wanted a break," Ishant told reporters.
Indian fans are too quick to hate. MSD's a very good captain, how do people keep forgetting that.

Dravid and VVS...hoping for another miracle. A Sachin century would be quite nice too.
 
Would have liked to have got another wicket

Yup, England fought their way into a good position from 62/5 which put the game back in the balance, and having given themselves a good 27 overs to bowl they didn't make most of the new ball. While a lot of criticism has rightly been aimed at Broad, you need three seamers in a four man attack (including a spinner) to be near their best and Anderson has had one of his off days - two tailenders aside. You need more from them, especially when there's a bit in the pitch

, for me, there are two big factors:

What happens with Tendulkar and Gambhir? You'd guess Sachin will bat, can Gambhir even hold one?

The first session. Massive.

Morning sessions can often be very important. Tendulkar will bat, he wouldn't have fielded otherwise. Can't bat until after lunch though or at the fall of the fifth wicket. Depends with Gambhir the extent of his injury, I would think he'd only bat if India have a hope of saving the match.

We need 2-3 wickets in the morning session, England may have a mental block in their way though, that big chase of the Indians has a lot of commentators on about it so I'm guessing that will filter down to the players. It is highly unlikely even the Indians will chase down 450, England MUST not take out their third slip too early and scupper their chances of winning. If the Indians are 250 for 1-2 wickets sometime mid-afternoon then they might think about defending but even then the Indians would still have 200 runs to knock off.

Given the pitch, I won't be disappointed with the draw as long as we bowl well enough. Broad is still looking good and there's something there for Swann.

I would be somewhat disappointed, there is enough in it and England are well on top. India will have done well to bat out a whole day, especially if 2+ batsmen are struggling with injury/illness. It will feel like a win for the Indians if they get a draw, I'm not suggesting we should batter them or bowl them out for less than 250, but we should be able to pick up 2+ wickets per session on any pitch and 5+ down by tea should give us a shot - especially with a new ball due before tea (53 overs time) If England can get a few wickets, get that new ball before tea and have two goes at the remaining batsmen anything is possible.

That said, if Swann doesn't get anything much out of the pitch England may come to regret only having three seamers.
 
Gosh, Harsha is so pathetic! Usain Bolt, seriously? Was that actually needed? :facepalm

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That was so close! Plumb actually!
 
Well that looked plumb! Billy is such a crap umpire when it comes to lbw decisions. Marginally pitched outside leg, definitely out to me!
Edit: Okay 50-50 alright. Bias got the better of me.
 
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Billy is such a crap umpire when it comes to lbw decisions. Marginally pitched outside leg, definitely out to me!
Edit: Okay 50-50 alright. Bias got the better of me.

I think he should stop posing and get on with the job he's paid to do. Save the silly bent fingers and other theatrics for pyjama cricket silly billy.

Need to make at least another breakthrough before lunch, preferably two. New ball is only 40 overs away, that could well bring 2-3 wickets, but we need to be in a position to make that matter
 
Like Botham said, the umpires have been magnificent in this match.

India haven't gone out to win the game today, they've clearly gone out for the draw as the run rate of just over 2.5 testifies.
 

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