England In India - October 2011/12

[Haarithan]

when have you won a test back here in India? 1984? Woho!! Thats way too back and you really suck at subcontinent.

2006 series, 3rd test, 1-1. Shaun Udal, a then 35yo bagging the MOTM award. Get your facts right for God's sake.

 

[Aalay]

2006 series, 3rd test, 1-1. Shaun Udal, a then 35yo bagging the MOTM award. Get your facts right for God's sake.

He meant to say a test series. Calm down on a typo mistake for God's sake

 

[Haarithan]

Btw, that's 7 proper fifty over games on the trot where England have failed to bowl their opposition out. Worrying. :/

 

[SaiSrini]

And thank you for proving in England that India suck anywhere outside the sub-continent. I don't really care if England lose this series 5-0, because end of the day India got royally thrashed in England in the test series you know that format which is the pinnacle of the game, I don't even care that we beat you in the ODI series.

End of the day look at you Indian fans, the biggest trash talkers ever. Before arriving in England we were going to get thrashed and humiliated, when you were loosing you were hating on your team calling for Dhoni's and the rest of their heads, and now you're back in the subcontinent and winning again you start with the Dhoni love and trash talk. Worst! Fans! EVER!

If you start generalizing such comments to the entire section of Indian fans, you are the worst guy ever! Dhoni still has criticism going on for him. We praise when he does well, we criticize him when he doesn't do well. But just because we praise him when he does well doesn't mean all his mistakes are pardoned. Still feel his captaincy is not up to the mark and needs to improve.

Trash talk by us? What did Botham, Hussain, Vaughan indulge in? All spiritual talk? Utter BS!!!! They dominated a weaker Indian team at home and spoke all nonsense. I am frankly waiting for the time when England comes here for a test series. I want India to spank them really hard and show them that even if India is not worthy of being the best, England are far worser.

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Why would India be any better with those players in out of curiosity? I actually think India are doing so well in this series because of the young vibrant batting lineup that runs singles hard and puts pressure on the bowlers. The players you are missing are all at the end of their careers and are in no way guaranteed to play any better than what is essentially you're future Indian team. This is not a "second string" Indian team, it is your future.

Not to mention the vast improvement in the fielding...

Sehwag, Yuvraj are not so old enough. And these two are monster ODI players, esp. Yuvraj. The last time he faced against England at home, he killed them badly with the bat. And he has improved a lot upon his left arm spin which is so valuable in ODI's for us. Yuvraj's fielding has dropped from his very high standards in the early days, but he is still an athletic fielder who dives around.

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Rahane did play well today but just one match doesn't prove anything. This is the only reason to worry but apart from this, it has been a fine performance from the Indian batsmen. Winning this series was important for Indian cricket, the England tour was horrible for us and this win will boost up the team confidence which was very necessary. It's time to give Unadkat and Aaron a chance. We've seen Unadkar quite a few times in IPL and CLt20 but Aaron has not really got much chance to show how good a bowler he is. I'm really looking forward to see Aaron bowl. Next 2 ODI's are gonna be more interesting.

Rahane's one match performance? Last time I saw, he did well in the ODI's in England and the T20 game. He should have got his hundred today, but still that was a fine innings.

 

[Aalay]

It's time to give Unadkat and Aaron a chance. We've seen Unadkar quite a few times in IPL and CLt20 but Aaron has not really got much chance to show how good a bowler he is. I'm really looking forward to see Aaron bowl. Next 2 ODI's are gonna be more interesting.

Dude, Unadkat is not even in the squad. It's Sreenath Arvind. Surely agree about Varun Aaron. Wanna see him in place of Umesh Yadav in next match and Manoj tiwary in place of Parthiv Patel

 

[puddleduck]

So hardly a second string as you attempted to imply is it Sai? Keep digging mate, you're chatting rubbish. Yuvraj is a world class ODI player, who is either awesome or terrible. As I said, because there is no Morgan does this make it a 2nd string England team? Of course not.

You were writing drivel, I pulled you up on it, even other Indian posters think that claim is nonsensical.

I'm not sure how you can prove that India are far "betterer" (the opposite of worserer perhaps?) if India win comfortably at home. All that will have been shown is that the Indian fans claiming they would destroy England in England were idiots and that both sides are very good in their own backyards. In fact, considering this side is yet to tour India in tests, at the moment the only facts we have are that India were woefully undedicated and utterly outplayed in England, and that India are a better ODI side at home. Hardly earth shattering news to most people.

Oh, and even if India beat England in the test series, I would hope that England would show more fight and determination than the utterly unprofessional rabble that India were by the end of the test series. The commentators had every right to slate them as everyone felt let down that what should have been an excellent series of cricket was in fact let down by only one team bothering to turn up.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

Guess who doesn't give a fearsome tweak about this series? Everyone apart from India.

Don't get the point of this series anyway.

 

[Sedition]

From a neutral perspective; judging by the English response, I think we can conclude that English fans, do infact, care about ODIs.
And the second string comment was a bit of salt in the wounds trashtalk I think, no more talent missing from that team than any other side would field.

 

[Themer]

rom a neutral perspective; judging by the English response, I think we can conclude that English fans, do infact, care about ODIs.

Judging by the fact hardly any English posters have posted in here the obvious conclusion is we aren't really bothered. Even before the series there wasn't any English supporters posting.

 

[puddleduck]

I even had to resort to trolling to try and get some kind of interest in this thread haha

I literally only posted in here because I was bored while working haha

 

[Rohit Doshi]

In a matter of two months, the England team has turned from civil hosts to rude visitors. To win and celebrate comes naturally, but to lose and remain cultured needs to be taught. India has delivered that lesson to England with a series-winning 3-0 lead in the five-match ODI series.
A day before the third ODI at Mohali, Samit admitted England will carry on sledging in an attempt to "get the Indians out of their comfort zone." Well, if that's the case, India have no reason to be angry, but should thank England to end their catnap.
Add to that Bresnan's helplessness expressed in these words. "As a fast bowling unit, we can't really use the ball to intimidate as much as we'd like in India, with it not bouncing so high. So we have to do other things to get into the batsman's bubble, whether it's a little bit of a word or a look or a stare."
Isn't it admittance of the fact that England bowlers are not skilled enough to perform in different conditions? Absolutely!
Sports are governed by rules, even when fans don't expect a love-fest between arch rivals. Responsibility of referees, umpires and coaches is that much bigger when seriousness of a game is expected to take players to the edge.
In contrast, India never resorted to such dirty tactics while they failed to win even a single match in England. That's because India believe to get under their opponent's skin through performance, not by some foul-mouth banter.
As much the defeats in the first three ODIs, England seem to be hurt by the margin of those. Indian victories have been emphatic to say the least, unlike England who needed rain to assist them in beating India in England. Add to that England losing with a full strength team while India's loss in England was largely due to injuries to stalwarts.
With victories by 126 runs at Hyderabad, by eight wickets at Delhi and by five wickets at Mohali, India are making sure that England's wounds keep getting deeper. England can now sledge as much as they want, the World Champions are back!

History repeats!! We heard people in this forum and in this thread say Indians have disappeared since 4-0 loss. I completely agree there is nothing to post when you lose. You have to respect the other teams strengths & cricket. This is what we did and this is what we expect.

Dont worry you might have been best at your home but remember Cricket is not always played at home. Just imagine this was more disgraceful for you when you lost 5-0 and 1-0 in test 2 years back.

I again say we were outplayed but if you dont care about ODI's then you and your board should stop even having an ODI tour. First it was Ashes, when you were not able to win, you all used to say we care a ???? about other tournaments we only love Ashes, now its only Tests!!

God forbid if England lose their top spot in near future you will say we care a ???? about cricket cause we back in England have so many sports to support unlike you Indians

 

[ferg512]

Tbf England have had a bloody long summer so they would be pretty burnt out right now and its probably better they are losing as all a one-off ODI series is for is some extra tv revenue which they are sure to be getting now that India has won a few games. Although it will be interesting to see how their bowlers fare on the flat pancakes of Dubai.

 

[puddleduck]

Love the idea that India remained dignified... They basically gave up, which to me is a massive insult to not only the opposition, but everyone watching the game. It was appalling lack of professionalism and a disgrace to see the likes of Sehwag not even care in the slightest. If anything, it's a good thing that England are at least still striving to win games of cricket.

Still, chips on shoulders and all that...

 

[Sureshot]

Well I think England should just stop playing ODI's if they don't really care about it and give poor Ireland a chance to enter there. Ireland can surely do better then England.

Bang on. They can take our place in ODI's, they can take your place in Tests.
Wonder how many will get the sarcasm there.


*eats puddleduck's chips.

 

[Highlander999]

Well said Nigel