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I hope Ireland thrash England today
There may be some election-related anger in this post
There may be some election-related anger in this post
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I just hope James Vince scores a hundred. Been my favourite English player since he had an average of 50+ in ICC2012
Wow, Ansari is actually playing. I don't get why he's in the squad, let alone the team. Sure he has potential, but at the moment, he's just not very good. If he played for Gloucestershire or someone, he wouldn't even get a look in.
Disappointing that Gregory isn't playing too. He's a very good bowler in One Day cricket. I'm sure he'll have great fun carrying the drinks though.
Disappointing that Gregory isn't playing too. He's a very good bowler in One Day cricket. I'm sure he'll have great fun carrying the drinks though.
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You got that spot on! I liked the look of Wood from the few overs that were played, looked genuinely quick on a slowish deck. I think he should be given a chance against the Kiwis and Brez, he'd completely slipped from my mind to be honest. I do think that he is a better option than Stokes for the time being, always looks like he's got a couple of wickets in him.
Finn, poor young Steven Finn, I rue the day I met him and his parents in a Sydney dumpling restaurant and told them he had a great future ahead of him. They've (not his parents) managed to knock 10mph of pace out of him.
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Yeah completely agree. It was my first time seeing him bowl and I was impressed with his pace/line and length. He deserves a decent run in the ODI team.
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Farewell to Giles Clarke who left the ECB richer but cricket poorer - Telegraph
The man who made ENG cricket more elitist and turned into organisation that resembles BCCI, sold out world cricket is gone
...but he still will be pulling strings from the shadows
The man who made ENG cricket more elitist and turned into organisation that resembles BCCI, sold out world cricket is gone
...but he still will be pulling strings from the shadows
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ECB behaviour towards KP and in general under Giles is on par with BCCI vindictiveness in their general position of getting back at ENG/AUS for perceive ills they did to them in past, how they almost boycotted toured to S Africa in 2013 because of lingering beef with Haroon Lorgot, how they prevented UK journalist Martin Samuels from touring India in 2012 because of hard hitting articles he wrote about team during IND 2011 UK tour.
Clarke and Srinivasam are the great tyrannical admins of world cricket
thats 100% true
that's debatable but considering it true for a min, bcci stll don't do anything shitty to their players, they drop players not sack them, old players are treated with the respect they deserve, , infact protect and cater to them as much as possible. Even the outspoken ones like Kapil the ones who went to ICL etc. Bcci does make some stupid decisions in appointing people from time to time but doesn't think twice upon given a nudge in proper direction. Bcci still caters to public and players though greed plays a lot of role in that. Also no leaks if anything at all gets out of these guys mouth unless they want to.
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The BCCI is great from an Indian playing perspective. Its just as soon as you step outside India do they become the money drviven Guptas.
Interesting that Strauss has pretty much announced Morgan as the one day and t20 captain. Shows that he clearly wants to seperate coloured clothes cricket from test cricket. He could have easily made Root the one day captain, but I think he sees Root as the test captain in a year or two, and so not able to juggle both roles. I agree that the test captain is better off just concentrating on that job.
I have to say that I'm happy that both Strauss has been appointed and that KP is still unselectable. I think Strauss is a real strategic thinker and a great man. Hopefully the team will have a good three or four years; particularly in one day cricket.
I do think that Pietersen could have been part of our limited overs plans as a player, rather than just an advisor. I think he's burnt his bridges with too many guys in the test side, but he could've played in at least one more t20 and 50 over WC, in a squad full of fresh faces, captained by a guy who actually likes him. Our one day team is significantly improved with him in the side. Sorry, I just don't think our test side actually needs him.
Although I'm not a fan of how KP has behaved, and I was certainly not impressed by his book, I think that Tom Harrison has a lot to answer for. Why guarantee him that the meeting wasn't to tell him that he was still sacked? He must have known what Strauss would say.
I also think that Colin Graves must realise that he has made some very silly comments, and that he has essentially lost KP £250,000.
I have to say that I'm happy that both Strauss has been appointed and that KP is still unselectable. I think Strauss is a real strategic thinker and a great man. Hopefully the team will have a good three or four years; particularly in one day cricket.
I do think that Pietersen could have been part of our limited overs plans as a player, rather than just an advisor. I think he's burnt his bridges with too many guys in the test side, but he could've played in at least one more t20 and 50 over WC, in a squad full of fresh faces, captained by a guy who actually likes him. Our one day team is significantly improved with him in the side. Sorry, I just don't think our test side actually needs him.
Although I'm not a fan of how KP has behaved, and I was certainly not impressed by his book, I think that Tom Harrison has a lot to answer for. Why guarantee him that the meeting wasn't to tell him that he was still sacked? He must have known what Strauss would say.
I also think that Colin Graves must realise that he has made some very silly comments, and that he has essentially lost KP £250,000.
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the separation of test and limited overs sides is far from the positive move it's trying to be presented as.
it indicates firstly that the Strauss/Flower model of attritional test cricket, slow scoring rates and bowling dry is going to continue. the attacking, innovative play from T20 and ODI that others are bringing in to the test arena is not to be for us - we will be left behind. Alex Hales can forget a test future.
secondly, you've just seen a World Cup dominated by players that are generally stars in their country's Test side, and the Aussies won it with the majority of their test side. simply put - your best players are your best players, and can generally cross formats easily. the inference is that the ODI side will therefore be populated with the likes of Morgan, who could never cut it at Test level, and Hales, who England don't trust at Test Level.
it's a retrograde step showing that Strauss really doesn't have a clue. He's seen the power hitting in the World Cup, thinks he better push that way without realising the likes of Warner, Mccullum and De Villiers are proper players, not sloggers.
it indicates firstly that the Strauss/Flower model of attritional test cricket, slow scoring rates and bowling dry is going to continue. the attacking, innovative play from T20 and ODI that others are bringing in to the test arena is not to be for us - we will be left behind. Alex Hales can forget a test future.
secondly, you've just seen a World Cup dominated by players that are generally stars in their country's Test side, and the Aussies won it with the majority of their test side. simply put - your best players are your best players, and can generally cross formats easily. the inference is that the ODI side will therefore be populated with the likes of Morgan, who could never cut it at Test level, and Hales, who England don't trust at Test Level.
it's a retrograde step showing that Strauss really doesn't have a clue. He's seen the power hitting in the World Cup, thinks he better push that way without realising the likes of Warner, Mccullum and De Villiers are proper players, not sloggers.
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I don't think you should have separate players for the test and one day squads. I don't think that's what Strauss is saying. Of course, you may get your one day specialists like Morgan, Willey etc but there are bound to be guys playing in both.
What I'm actually a fan of is having separate management of those squads. Certainly different captains, and ideally different coaches, who can bring unique visions for each format of cricket. Being a captain/coach of a one day side has become a specialist position in the last two years. Somebody like Moores, who was very good at helping sides win four day games with Sussex and Lancashire, just didn't get one day cricket.
The test captaincy/coaching role also takes a lot out of somebody. I think those people are better off just looking after that form of the game.
