England Team Discussion

[bigred]

I like this squad. Think the Xl could be

1. Cook
2. Hameed
3. Root
4. Ali
5. Stokes
6. Bairstow
7. Woakes
8. Rashid
9. Broad
10. Batty
11. Anderson

ODI side will be

1. Roy
2. Vince
3. Duckett
4. Bairstow
5. Stokes
6. Buttler
7. Ali
8. Woakes
9. Plunkett
10. Rashid
11. Wood

 

[Velocity]

You know..... Modern Ali is too good in Asia to be batting at 7. 7! . He needs to bat way higher. Believe me, he's not getting better at 7 . Id suggest to put him at 4 even opening, because it seems everyone has forgot he did really good in Sri Lanka before that disastrous World Cup. Batting lower will not help harness that potential out of him. The problem is England's batting depth is too good to be higher in the order. He's not a finisher. He's more like Root, will build on after starts. Instead that idiot Vince gets the top spot. " Sigh"

 

[Markkkkk]

You know..... Modern Ali is too good in Asia to be batting at 7. 7! . He needs to bat way higher. Believe me, he's not getting better at 7 . Id suggest to put him at 4 even opening, because it seems everyone has forgot he did really good in Sri Lanka before that disastrous World Cup. Batting lower will not help harness that potential out of him. The problem is England's batting depth is too good to be higher in the order. He's not a finisher. He's more like Root, will build on after starts. Instead that idiot Vince gets the top spot. " Sigh"

I guess you're talking about ODI. Ali averages under 30 (28.21) after 39 matches and has gone past 50 5 times while Vince scored 50 on his debut (The ODI vs Ireland doesn't really count) and he's averaging 22 this year (and at 7 he should have a bunch of not outs). I don't understand how Vince is an idiot, what did he do? Sure he didn't score runs in the tests but he was called up while he's been struggling for form. I'm not saying Vince is better then Ali but calling him an idiot and saying Ali has potential compared to Vince (who I presume you think has none) is down right absurd. I'm sure the selectors are better at judging ability and potential then you so maybe you should let a player play more then 1 game (and score 50 in it) before you right him off...

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Ben Duckett! I have high hopes from this kid!

 

[Velocity]

I guess you're talking about ODI. Ali averages under 30 (28.21) after 39 matches and has gone past 50 5 times while Vince scored 50 on his debut (The ODI vs Ireland doesn't really count) and he's averaging 22 this year (and at 7 he should have a bunch of not outs). I don't understand how Vince is an idiot, what did he do? Sure he didn't score runs in the tests but he was called up while he's been struggling for form. I'm not saying Vince is better then Ali but calling him an idiot and saying Ali has potential compared to Vince (who I presume you think has none) is down right absurd. I'm sure the selectors are better at judging ability and potential then you so maybe you should let a player play more then 1 game (and score 50 in it) before you right him off...

Well, yes the selectors have better judgement, and I never said that Vince has no potential, though he's maybe not an idiot. I only feel Ali is better than Vince for the opening slot. You're talking this up as if I'm sending a message to ECB. My post wasn't that big of a deal. Not everyone has perfect judging ability. Well, I've never really liked Vince due to his inconsistency

 

[Aislabie]

I think that little ODI series gave us an interesting insight into England's best options for the coming years. Difficult to see a long future in the ODI side for Morgan really.

Test | ODI | T20I
Alastair Cook | Alex Hales| Alex Hales
Haseeb Hameed| Jason Roy| Jason Roy
Ben Duckett| Joe Root| Joe Root
Joe Root| Jos Buttler| Jos Buttler
Jonny Bairstow| Ben Stokes| Sam Billings
Ben Stokes| Sam Billings| Ben Stokes
Moeen Ali| Moeen Ali| Liam Livingstone
Chris Woakes| Chris Woakes| David Willey
Stuart Broad| Adil Rashid| Liam Plunkett
Jack Leach| David Willey| Adil Rashid
James Anderson| Graeme White| Tymal Mills

Personally, those would be my England sides across all three formats. And I'm completely unhappy about Moeen Ali's continued inclusion as a bowler, but never mind.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

I must say, Gary Ballance is a special talent! Certainly way better than Ian Bell!

 

[C Boomer]

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[Aislabie]

Genuine question - with the success of Haseeb Hameed, and with the lack of commanding county performances from more experienced batsmen, might it be worth blooding Dan Lawrence sooner rather than later?

 

[blockerdave]

Apparently Jack Leach (58 Division 1 wickets at 22) is not one of the four best spinners in the country. Instead, we'll pick the guy who managed eleven wickets in seven Tests ten years ago. What could possibly go wrong?

Even worse now he's not in the top 5!

 

[jonathon1717]

Even worse now he's not in the top 5!

i no , we picked completely the wrong spin attack to go to india , however the indians have out done us in the pace department , lets hope we can draw the series , im hoping cook stands down at the end of this , should cook retire ?
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[Aislabie]

Should Cook retire?

No, he definitely shouldn't, unless he's doing it for family/health reasons.

 

[zwarrior]

Alastair Cook steps down from England captaincy | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[asprin]

It was only a matter of time.

 

[ParkedTheBus]

Couldn't agree more. Good player, poor captain.