England tour of South Africa 09/10

Once agaiin players decide to lengthen their carreer and end up changing the way people look at him. I don't think anyone I know thought Ntini should play, he is too old to do the job that he used to do, pace was important to him. We have quality bowlers waiting in the wings, I mean De Wet wasn't the best bowlers on the domestic scene but look what he did to England, But rather than do the clever thing and drop him, we do the usual South African thing and keep him on until he runs the team into the ground.

He could have had a great retirement at the end of the first test, it was considered his test but now he will probably retire at teh end of the series having a bradmanesque average, too bad it will be his bowling average of 100. Don't you just love the UCB.
 
Yea England have really let South Africa off the hook here, I've heard they wasted a few reviews though and it cost them with Ntini?

Sadly they've yet to realise what the review system is intended for and use them like tactical powerplays. Use them when you are sure the batsman is out (or not out if a batsman). If the players on the field aren't sure then why waste it on the offchance? Tennis is pretty wise with its reviews, they only waste them at the end of a set when they've nothing much to lose. I said a long time ago that the reviews needed to be controlled and used by the match officials as players aren't RESPONSIBLE enough to use them as they are intended ie to avoid glaring errors by officials. If they used it in football I'm sure they'd be used (more) wisely when players know the ball has crossed the line, when there's been a bad foul in the area or handball. Unfortunately cricketers ain't too clever and use reviews when they want a wicket rather than when they've got one that hasn't been given.



As for the match, England got into a strong position and p1ssed it away - TWICE. The saffers near enough doubled their total with the last five wickets and the decision to persist with Swann was dubious to say the least.

Good to see Strauss knock up near enough a run-a-ball fifty, beats me why he has been left out of the ODI team (in the past) when he can score as quickly as anyone. Could have done without losing Trott so early today, Cook looks set on crease occupation and I expect he'll crawl to somewhere between 50 and 66 before falling to leave England deep in it (with a silent 'sh') For England to get near a winning position they want to be getting to 400 or so asap, a run every three balls when everyone else is scoring a run a ball or run every two balls is just slowing us right down and selfishly playing for his place. We might almost have more chance of winning the Test if he got out, digging in when in trouble is one thing, but when you are one or two down and past 100 then it takes the p

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Because he still thinks hes awesome.....he hasnt been that for the past few series.

Sadly quota systems do make you question if someone has been picked on merit or to fulfil a sense of balance based on colour, gender, sexual tendancy or species.

I thought I'd have a look at Ntini's recent series to see how good/bad he has been :

09/10 vs ENG : 2 wkts @ 72.00
08/09 vs AUS : 10 wkts @ 34.00
08/09 vs AUS : 9 wkts @ 50.00
08/09 vs BAN : 11 wkts @ 10.45
2008 vs ENG : 14 wkts @ 37.21
07/08 vs IND : 10 wkts @ 24.20
07/08 vs BAN : 5 wkts @ 25.40
07/08 vs WIN : 10 wkts @ 38.50
07/08 vs NZE : 6 wkts @ 30.00
07/08 vs PAK : 5 wkts @ 36.80

Too often in the mid to high 30s, pretty handy against Australia and India but either done well against minnows or not too well. I can see a reason to pick him based on 34.00 vs Australia, but surely South Africa need to look to the future. Maybe they want him to reach 400 wickets, but surely they are playing West Indies, New Zealand or Bangladesh sometime in the near future he can do that against?!?!
 
The thing is that Ntini himself said he won't retire until he breaks Pollocks wicket record. At the rate hes going he won't get there in the next 3 years and by then he'll be properly useless. That average against India was in a home series IIRC, so no surprises there really, but in general he hasn't been to good lately, not good enough to merit a spot in the side on performace alone.
 
Good to see Cook doing well and playing himself back into form. Hopefully he sticks around and gets a century for his and the team's sakes.
 
nice to see you posting MM! Everyone knows that if Cook can rack up a century before Bell gets in then, Bell will get one :p
 
Good day for us so far, helped by South Africa looking flatter than Keira Knightley's chest.
 
Congratulations Alistair Cook - hopefully this will see him back on track, much like Strauss' 100 in Napier back in 2008.
 
Good innings from Cook. Really battled hard and showed some real heart and determination to save his career. In his 50th Test as well, if he stays fit and gets back into good form then he could end up playing a ridiculous amount of Tests for England. Just hope he keeps going now.
 
We should make a super cricketer, Bell's flair with Cook/Collingwood's determination :p
 
Don't know how you can dislike Ian Bell when he's playing like this. This is the type of innings I've wanted to see him play since he came back into the side. It's how he plays for Warwickshire, and it's how he plays when his technique's working properly. The Ian Bell that's averaged 19 since he came back into the side isn't the player that I like watching. He's shown signs of technical deficiency, lost his off-stump and was lacking confidence. A situation like this on a pitch like this should allow him to regain some confidence and get some form under his belt. He's not a bad player, you don't average around 40 in Test cricket if you're a terrible cricketer. Come on Belly, make a score lad!
 
Darn! Would have loved to have seen the Man from Durham get a century! Ah well, Bell to make up for it! We all have a go at Bell but his stats are pretty impressive!:)


Yeah! 50! Sock it to 'em Belly Boy!
 
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