English Domestic Cricket

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What does this year's county performances mean for ENGs winter tours

Well congrats to my home county for winning the county championship, its been long overdue although i dont think any Lancashire play as yet is ready for a national call-up although Moores has pushed a case for Kerrigan recently.

For the test side, well i guess Panesar's good division 1 performance has secured him a place for the test squad to Pakistan.

Alex Hales averages 51, Steven Moore 40 and Carberry with 56 (although he missed half the season) en route to scoring a triple century will also keep the pressure on Strauss as back-up openers.

James Taylor IMO has the back-up batsman spot secured for the test side, although Bopara got the nod in the recent tests vs IND mainly due to fact that he can bowl a bit.

Hildreth another option didn't have the best of seasons averaging 38, although his 186 in the final county game was quality knock, which im sure someone of the selection panel noted.

Bairstow also had leapfrogged over Davies and Kieswetter as the back-up test keeper to Prior, based on his batting this season i'd say.

For the ODIs of course as many have already noted, Buttler looks like the dynamic late order slogger than ENG have been seeking since Flintoff retired & the potential overall balance of the ODI set-up looks extremely encouraging.

 

[Owzat]

Just a note, the Test squad is playing Pakistan in UAE so it isn't going "to Pakistan"

Was a bit surprised by the draw for the CB40 next year, Notts, Somerset (runners-up), Surrey (winners) and Durham in the same group from which a max of two can reach the final. Surely it should be QFs, top two from each group and best two 3rd placed teams? Or a better draw..............

GROUP A

Netherlands, Leicestershire, Worcestershire, Lancashire, Middlesex, Essex, Gloucestershire.

GROUP B

Scotland, Durham, Hampshire, Surrey, Glamorgan, Somerset, Nottinghamshire.

GROUP C

Unicorns, Derbyshire, Yorkshire, Kent, Warwickshire, Sussex, Northants

BBC Sport - Counties learn draw for 2012 CB40

 

[ferg512]

That does seem pretty ridiculous really, how on earth did they manage to get three of the semi finalists in the same group?? Is it region based or something??

 

[MUFC1987]

It's just random. Well, there are the three seeded teams (Netherlands, Scotland and the Unicorns) so you only get one of those in each group, but the rest is completely random as far as I know.

Quarter Finals would be fairer for me too, but that will never happen until they reduce the County Championship, which they seem unwilling to do.

 

[Sureshot]

As said, one of Netherlands, Scotland and Unicorns in each group. Other 6 teams in each group are pulled out of a bag. No seeding, no region, just random.

I like it, means you can get results like this every now and then.

 

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Robson faces Blues queue despite county success

ENGLAND are in the habit of scouring abroad for their talent and they are on their way to pinching a player from under Australia's nose.
The man who could end up wearing England's three lions rather than Australia's baggy green in future Ashes series is Sydney grade batsman Sam Robson - an opener who has never played for NSW but turned heads at Middlesex in England's county competition this year.
In a breakthrough season, the 22-year-old Sydneysider, with Australian and British passports through his Nottingham-born mother, crunched 903 runs from 12 games at a princely 53, including two centuries.
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England honours are still a long way off but Robson's performances have at least one astute judge, former England Test paceman Angus Fraser, comparing him with Mike Atherton, while England captain Andrew Strauss is also said to be a huge fan.
Fraser, Middlesex's cricket director, described Robson as an ''old-fashioned type, a dogged opener'' who likes to bat for long periods.
''You've always got to be careful about what you say but he's slightly Mike Atherton-ish in his attitude and what he's looking to do,'' Fraser said. ''His mannerisms and his attitude to batting and the way that he plays, he's got that sort of mentality,'' he said.
The highlight of Robson's season came a few weeks ago when he shared in a 231-run opening stand with Strauss against Leicestershire at the home of cricket, Lord's, though he was forced to retire on 101 after being struck in the face.
''The England captain likes him, he's been very impressed with his mentality, attitude and the way that he plays,'' Fraser said. ''He's made some very positive comments ? even before they put on over 200 for the first wicket. Strauss rates him highly.''
Robson is still some distance from breaking into even an England A side, though Fraser said a repeat of this year's form could see him forced to make a life-defining choice - to stick with his country of birth or the Old Enemy. ''He might well be put in an Andrew Symonds situation,'' Fraser said, referring to Birmingham-born Symonds's decision in the mid-1990s to stick with Australia.
Australian-raised players such as Martin McCague, Alan Mullally and Adam and Ben Hollioake have played for England in the past, but they defected during the 1990s when the local talent pool was far deeper than now.
Robson, who has played for Australia at under-19 level, is not unknown to NSW cricket. He plays grade cricket with Eastern Suburbs and will do so again this season when he returns to Sydney next month. He was rookie-contracted as a teenager and his father Jim is a former state selector and runs Cricket NSW's indoor centre at the SCG.
Despite his rich Blues heritage, Robson, then 18, tried his luck in England in 2008 and was referred to Middlesex by his Easts teammate Tim Murtagh and was offered a contract by the county. Sensing his opportunities were limited in NSW, where he was behind Simon Katich, Phil Jaques, Phillip Hughes and Usman Khawaja, he left.
A similar logjam awaits Robson this summer when he returns to Sydney next month. ''He'd certainly be in the mix for state cricket but, if he made the decision to come back, he'd be by no means a walk-up start,'' NSW's chairman of selectors, David Freedman, said. ''I wouldn't see him starting in front of those guys, by any stretch.''
Although Robson has made no decision on his international future, his medium-term future lies in England. He loves life in London and said playing every second week at Lord's was a ''dream''. He said playing with Victoria's run machine, Chris Rogers, and Strauss, in particular, was a ''real eye-opener''.
Robson recently signed a two-year deal tying him to Middlesex until 2013 and Fraser wants to see him remain in the English system for a while longer than that.
''We've all liked his tenacity and ? ability to score runs,'' Fraser said. ''It's good to see him coming through and we're hopeful he's going to score a lot of runs for us in the next 10 or 12 years.''

 

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England news: England youngsters set for busy winter | England Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo

Why is the ECB still picking Boyd Rankin in these performace squads if he still committed to playing for Ireland?

 

[Themer]

Why is the ECB still picking Boyd Rankin in these performace squads if he still committed to playing for Ireland?

Cause he'd stop being committed should the test squad come knocking.

 

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Cause he'd stop being committed should the test squad come knocking.

Maybe that is Rankin's inner intentions, but it doesn't look right and is one of the reason why foreigner take shots at us for taking all these foreign players into the cricket team.

You would never something like that in football. He needs to come clearly and say which country he wants to play for and the ICC needs to tighten it rules about players from the associate nations playing for the elite nations.

 

[MUFC1987]

So Kartik has decided to move on from Somerset. Probably the right decision really, both he and the Club need freshening up. Here's hoping we get a fast bowling allrounder to lead the attack as our overseas player. With Willoughby getting older, we need someone to lead the attack, especially if Thomas is at the IPL again at the start of next year. Also high time we threw Waller and Dockrell into the First Class mix to see what they're capable of. They're good young spinners who need experience.

 

[vorgaphe]

Oh dear, Mahela given not out on 26 when the ball was surely hitting the stumps.

 

[VC the slogger]

Jason Gillespie made Yorkshire coach.Yorkshire had a disastrous 2011 season.They were relegated from the County Championship.
Gillespie has coached Zimbabwe domestic team Midwest Rhinos and was also the bowling coach for the Kings XI Punjab and Australia A.

 

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[El Loco]

Maybe that is Rankin's inner intentions, but it doesn't look right and is one of the reason why foreigner take shots at us for taking all these foreign players into the cricket team.

You would never something like that in football. He needs to come clearly and say which country he wants to play for and the ICC needs to tighten it rules about players from the associate nations playing for the elite nations.

That is a valid point. We don't want too many players following in the footsteps of Morgan and Nannes etc. It really does ruin the game and hampers the other countries chances when a star player leaves them. But we've also had players going the other way, Ed Joyce is a testament to that but the jury is currently still out on this issue.

 

[Ahmad94]

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That is a valid point. We don't want too many players following in the footsteps of Morgan and Nannes etc. It really does ruin the game and hampers the other countries chances when a star player leaves them. But we've also had players going the other way, Ed Joyce is a testament to that but the jury is currently still out on this issue.

I agree with you. .Samit Patel, Sajid Mahmood, I could keep naming them