English Premier League VIII | Round 13

[Chewie]

All English XI:

Carberry
Trescothick
Kieswetter +
Shah
Stokes
Rashid
Hall
Breese
Shahzad
Harris
Onions

Not actually that bad a lineup!

Probably first XI:

Carberry
Trescothick
Amla
Duminy
Shah
Kieswetter +
Vettori
Hall
Shahzad
Onions
Bollinger

Breese and Rashid to come in for Hall and someone else depending on the pitch. Stokes may come and play as well at some point.

Anyone wanna trade Bravo though?

 

[Haarithan]

Bravo for Guptill?

 

[Chewie]

I was the one who released Guptill in the first place...

 

[CG123]

I'd personally prefer Oram who's a free agent, compared to Bravo...

 

[Haarithan]

In that case ,

Oram IN
Guptill OUT

 

[Chewie]

I dunno why Hedger likes Bravo so much.

 

[Sartaj]

I too used to like him.
Don't know why I hate him now though.

 

[CG123]

Purely on ODI stats there's nothing between them (Oram and Bravo), until you come to economy rate, where Oram's a whole run better.

 

[Sartaj]

Well,Oram does have great bowling stats but if a World XI were to be picked,99 out of 100 times Bravo would be considered ahead of Oram.

 

[CG123]

Why, I'd consider Oram ahead of Bravo...

The only reasons I can think of are because Bravo's overrated in tests and ODIs because of his T20 record, or because New Zealand > West Indies so Bravo bats at 5/6 for West Indies while he'd be down at 8 for New Zealand?

It's actually an interesting discussion, because most people would take Bravo ahead of Razzaq as well, yet statistically Razzaq is much better than him.

 

[Haarithan]

With Oram in , I have a much more balanced side , with a backup in place for almost every senior player with the exception of veterans like Smith , Ponting , RTD and Swann .

Probable XI

Joyce/Denly
Stirling/Hales (backup for batting)
Ponting
Smith *
Dussey/Oram ^
RTD ^
Mustard/Hales + (backup for keeping)
Swann ^
Harris/Tait/Mendis ^
Mahmood/Botha ^
Payne/Gregory ^

 

[Dipak]

@Hari: DeVenuto fr Joyce, Stirling or Ant

 

[Haarithan]

Done with trading , period .

 

[Sartaj]

When you watch them play,you can see that Bravo's that much better.
And Razzaq was better than both of them until he switched to self-destruction mode by playing in the ICL.

 

[CG123]

When you watch them play,you can see that Bravo's that much better.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I just think Bravo's overrated and Oram's better than him, which is backed up by their stats.