Future WTC Editions- What would you change?

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100 overs per day, from Thursday to Sunday. Switch to a pink ball if light fades too early. Or just play all Tests as day-night matches.
How is that a bad concept, given the current state of Test cricket?
I like the idea of 4 day games but rain could be a major factor in many places and having a day loss in 4 day match will lead to many draws.
 

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There are a huge amount of considerations to this one, but I'd be inclined to try to create a more tournament-based structure.

I have posted before about how I'd love the entire Test calendar to be tournament based, like the international rugby calendar. But that's probably not especially likely so moving swiftly on.

Let's get all the Test teams in one place and have them play a tournament. Using the rankings:

Group A
:ind: India (1)
:wi: West Indies (6)
:ire: Ireland (12)

Group B
:aus: Australia (4)
:pak: Pakistan (5)
:afg: Afghanistan (11)

Group C
:nzf: New Zealand (2)
:saf: South Africa (7)
:zim: Zimbabwe (10)

Group D
:eng: England (3)
:sri: Sri Lanka (8)
:ban: Bangladesh (9)

Each team plays the other teams in their group once each over the space of four weeks. There is a points system, akin to that used in the County Championship:
THU - MON | :ind: (1) vs :wi: (6) - at Lord's
FRI - TUE | :aus: (4) vs :pak: (5) - at Chester-le-Street
SAT- WED | :nzf: (2) vs :saf: (7) - at Headingley
THU - MON | :sri: (8) vs :ban: (9) - at The Oval
FRI - TUE | :wi: (6) vs :ire: (12) - at Headingley
SAT- WED | :aus: (4) vs :afg: (11) - at Cardiff
THU - MON | :nzf: (2) vs :zim: (10) - at Old Trafford
FRI - TUE | :eng: (3) vs :sri: (8) - at Lord's
SAT- WED | :ind: (1) vs :ire: (12) - at Edgbaston
THU - MON | :pak: (5) vs :afg: (11) - at The Oval
FRI - TUE | :saf: (7) vs :zim: (10) - at Cardiff
SAT- WED | :eng: (3) vs :ban: (9) - at Headingley

Then playoffs over three more weeks. In case of a draw, the team that earned more bonus points in the game (see again: County Championship points) progresses to the next round with a "winning draw"
SAT-WED | Group A 1st (:ind: :wi: :ire:) vs Group B 1st (:aus: :pak: :afg:) - at Old Trafford
THU-MON | Group C 1st (:nzf: :saf: :zim:) vs Group D 1st (:eng: :sri: :ban:) - at The Rose Bowl

SAT-WED | Semi 1 winner vs Semi 2 winner - at Lord's

I have imagined the format as if it were being held in England this year, with the rankings as they currently are.

15 Test matches in the time between Thursday 15th July (the tournament gets going with India-West Indies at Lord's) and Wednesday 8th September (the Final, also at Lord's) and only six days without Test cricket in that time (yet also minimal back-to-back games for teams, and also minimal scheduling crossovers for broadcasters.

It would be an amazing celebration of Test cricket, and one that I'd also quite like to see an opportunity for Associates to qualify for (but I need to sleep)
THU-MON | :afg: (11) vs :sco: (As. 1) at Chester-le-Street
SAT-WED | :ire: (12) vs :ned: (As. 2) at Edgbaston
The Associate teams would ideally be decided by the Intercontinental Cup (BRING IT BACK YOU COWARDS), but failing that then they can get drawn from the ODI rankings
 
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There are a huge amount of considerations to this one, but I'd be inclined to try to create a more tournament-based structure.

I have posted before about how I'd love the entire Test calendar to be tournament based, like the international rugby calendar. But that's probably not especially likely so moving swiftly on.

Let's get all the Test teams in one place and have them play a tournament. Using the rankings:

Group A
:ind: India (1)
:wi: West Indies (6)
:ire: Ireland (12)

Group B
:aus: Australia (4)
:pak: Pakistan (5)
:afg: Afghanistan (11)

Group C
:nzf: New Zealand (2)
:saf: South Africa (7)
:zim: Zimbabwe (10)

Group D
:eng: England (3)
:sri: Sri Lanka (8)
:ban: Bangladesh (9)

Each team plays the other teams in their group once each over the space of four weeks. There is a points system, akin to that used in the County Championship:
THU - MON | :ind: (1) vs :wi: (6) - at Lord's
FRI - TUE | :aus: (4) vs :pak: (5) - at Chester-le-Street
SAT- WED | :nzf: (2) vs :saf: (7) - at Headingley
THU - MON | :sri: (8) vs :ban: (9) - at The Oval
FRI - TUE | :wi: (6) vs :ire: (12) - at Headingley
SAT- WED | :aus: (4) vs :afg: (11) - at Cardiff
THU - MON | :nzf: (2) vs :zim: (10) - at Old Trafford
FRI - TUE | :eng: (3) vs :sri: (8) - at Lord's
SAT- WED | :ind: (1) vs :ire: (12) - at Edgbaston
THU - MON | :pak: (5) vs :afg: (11) - at The Oval
FRI - TUE | :saf: (7) vs :zim: (10) - at Cardiff
SAT- WED | :eng: (3) vs :ban: (9) - at Headingley

Then playoffs over three more weeks. In case of a draw, the team that earned more bonus points in the game (see again: County Championship points) progresses to the next round with a "winning draw"
SAT-WED | Group A 1st (:ind: :wi: :ire:) vs Group B 1st (:aus: :pak: :afg:) - at Old Trafford
THU-MON | Group C 1st (:nzf: :saf: :zim:) vs Group D 1st (:eng: :sri: :ban:) - at The Rose Bowl

SAT-WED | Semi 1 winner vs Semi 2 winner - at Lord's

I have imagined the format as if it were being held in England this year, with the rankings as they currently are.

15 Test matches in the time between Thursday 15th July (the tournament gets going with India-West Indies at Lord's) and Wednesday 8th September (the Final, also at Lord's) and only six days without Test cricket in that time (yet also minimal back-to-back games for teams, and also minimal scheduling crossovers for broadcasters.

It would be an amazing celebration of Test cricket, and one that I'd also quite like to see an opportunity for Associates to qualify for (but I need to sleep)
THU-MON | :afg: (11) vs :sco: (As. 1) at Chester-le-Street
SAT-WED | :ire: (12) vs :ned: (As. 2) at Edgbaston
The Associate teams would ideally be decided by the Intercontinental Cup (BRING IT BACK YOU COWARDS), but failing that then they can get drawn from the ODI rankings
I appreciate your idea with this but I wouldn't want this to happen. The home/away series is the best way of deciding the ultimate Test champion. Even we the fans back home deserve to get to watch Test Cricket being played at home. And those Overseas series makes it special for team when they actually win them. England bouncing back from their poor record in Test with a victory in South Africa, India's win in Australia, West Indies tour of England 2020 and 2019 Ashes were prime examples of how these bilateral series can actually promote Test Cricket.

We can rather put a fixed number on the amount of Test matches that are being played and reward/penalize teams according to their opposition.
 

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I appreciate your idea with this but I wouldn't want this to happen. The home/away series is the best way of deciding the ultimate Test champion. Even we the fans back home deserve to get to watch Test Cricket being played at home. And those Overseas series makes it special for team when they actually win them. England bouncing back from their poor record in Test with a victory in South Africa, India's win in Australia, West Indies tour of England 2020 and 2019 Ashes were prime examples of how these bilateral series can actually promote Test Cricket.

We can rather put a fixed number on the amount of Test matches that are being played and reward/penalize teams according to their opposition.
This 12-team tournament doesn't replace bilateral series - it just replaces the ridiculousness of having two teams go to another country for a one-off match to decide the entire cycle, wherein a draw will result in both teams winning.

Seedings are decided by the ICC rankings, which usually do a decent job of assessing who is where in Test cricket.
 

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This 12-team tournament doesn't replace bilateral series - it just replaces the ridiculousness of having two teams go to another country for a one-off match to decide the entire cycle, wherein a draw will result in both teams winning.

Seedings are decided by the ICC rankings, which usually do a decent job of assessing who is where in Test cricket.
This should be conducted like a World Cup where the host country for the Finals is decided well in advance. And as Ravi Shashtri mentioned in the recent press conference, we can have a best of 3 finals. As an Indian fan I don't think I would be interested in following how other team are performing in the tournament because I would be more concerned in following the India games. Things would be similar for an Aussie, or an English or a Kiwi fan. And this basically fails the purpose to generate revenue for the ICC because of low turn-out. Conducting a 2 month tournament doesn't look viable for a Test format.
 

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Let's face it, there are probably a dozen or so really good ideas that would provide context, some challenge and competition. But, the ICC won't come up with any of them.
The main purpose is thinking of possible situations. People would use those for conducting leagues in the Cricket leauges section of PlanetCricket. :lol:lol :p
 

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Too much ICC events are scheduled to be held in India for the upcoming years.

Would change that for sure.

And yeah no ICC events in England for next 10 years atleast. :D

***Cough*** Rain ***"cough*** .
 

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They changed the rules for the forthcoming edition- 12 points max per game.

This would put the teams playing more games at a disadvantage cause the qualifying is based on '% of points contested'

It would be such a shame if Bangladesh somehow worm their way into the finals!


I still feel the total number of points contested ,be the same for all countries. I also feel the test champion should be crowned every 4 years, as opposed to the current cycle of 2 years.
Too much ICC events are scheduled to be held in India for the upcoming years.

Would change that for sure.

I dont think they have announced the hosts for all the events to be played. Per the news coming in, the subcontinental boards are keen on hosting a few events, but it hasnt yet been formalized.

Truth be told, with 8 events in 8 years, people are going to be bored sooner or later. IMO, just have 3 events- CWC, T20WC and the Test Championship (4 years).
 

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