ICC World Test Championship 2019/21 Final - General Discussions

[asprin]

We nearly won our first Test in England back in 2018

But we lost

could've won the D/N Test not for that 36 all out

Could have, would have, should have.....we lost

beat Australia at Adelaide the same year

Exception to the rule? That's why I said "almost"

 

[Velocity]

Living in pre-2012 aren't you? We nearly won our first Test in England back in 2018, beat Australia at Adelaide the same year and could've won the D/N Test not for that 36 all out.

Nearly, could've, would've, . . . . the result still stands for those losses.

Ignoring those past matches and "winning the first Test" probability, both teams are not on equal footing. NZ have played two Tests in England already and are riding high with confidence with an overseas win over England. India didn't have those sort of "warmup Test fixtures" prior to the final but only their inter-squad matches which in no way can compare to playing an opposition like England in their own conditions. Given the weather however, looks like it will be mostly cloudy and the ball will talk if there are enough overs to play. It looks like NZ will field a lineup with a long tail with Jamieson at 7 for the game as well, which India can target but they will have five in form Kiwi bowlers against them. NZ clearly start out as favorites. But again, anything can happen in the game.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

No doubt NZ will start out as favourites in the Final since the conditions don’t differ much in England as compared to NZ. My point was to expect this to be a one-sided contest is bit of an over pessimism.

 

[asprin]

My point was to expect this to be a one-sided contest is bit of an over pessimism.

I'll give you the "over pessimism" argument but I would be very surprised if it turns out to be an even contest. Here's hoping India prove me wrong.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

The forecast looks mixed for the next few days. The chance of rain on most days is quite low, the symbols seem to be misleading. Friday could be most heavily impacted.

Of course it could piss it down for a week. This is England.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

The forecast looks mixed for the next few days. The chance of rain on most days is quite low, the symbols seem to be misleading. Friday could be most heavily impacted.

Of course it could piss it down for a week. This is England.

Draw! Draw! Draw!

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

The forecast looks mixed for the next few days. The chance of rain on most days is quite low, the symbols seem to be misleading. Friday could be most heavily impacted.

Of course it could piss it down for a week. This is England.

Do we have an anger reaction? I would use it for this post. We are doomed!!!

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Draw! Draw! Draw!

I thought it started today, looks like day 1 could be a washout.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Do we have an anger reaction? I would use it for this post. We are doomed!!!

80% chance of rain tomorrow.

 

[icyman]

I will make a bold move of playing Patel over Boult

New Zealand don't have the likes of MSK Prasad in their selection committee/ team management who would openly embrace such a blunder.

 

[Bevab]

I would normally agree with @NilayShah60’s take in another country despite the controversial nature of the decision but Boult’s record is too good in England to merit dropping him. Maybe in Australia perhaps.

I would probably just play Jamieson at 7 and let everyone wreak havoc. Their batting is good enough to allow for five specialist bowlers although rain might make that a risky move.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

I would normally agree with @NilayShah60’s take in another country despite the controversial nature of the decision but Boult’s record is too good in England to merit dropping him. Maybe in Australia perhaps.

I would probably just play Jamieson at 7 and let everyone wreak havoc. Their batting is good enough to allow for five specialist bowlers although rain might make that a risky move.

Yeah seems fine with me. Go for Jamieson over Grandhomme which gives room to play all of Wagner, Southee and Boult. I just found it hard to drop either of Southee, Jamieson or Wagner and a Southampton pitch would atleast require 1 spinner if not more. But I feel leaving out Grandhomme makes more of sense.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

New Zealand don't have the likes of MSK Prasad in their selection committee/ team management who would openly embrace such a blunder.

Playing in Southampton without a spinner is equally a blunder. England lost a Test match last year since they did not give much of overs to Moeen Ali. But as I said Jamieson over Grandhomme makes more of a sense.

 

[Neptune]

All this hype for the match to be rained out. Things are not looking great, has been consistently raining and we might not see any play tomorrow altogether.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

All this hype for the match to be rained out. Things are not looking great, has been consistently raining and we might not see any play tomorrow altogether.

The forecast from Saturday to Wednesday is much better. Tomorrow might be a wash out but there should be time to play on the rest of the days. Monday seems the most likely to get rain but that's 40-50% chance at the moment.