India in South Africa

[sohum]

Pathetic performance.

I hope there are a lot of flat pitches in the World Cup because that's the only way we'll really get anywhere. Although India do enjoy fudging up their last few series before the World Cup. Remember New Zealand 2002? I think we lost the tests 2-0 and the ODIs 5-2 or something like that. Got skittled out for below 100 many times during the test series.

 

[zub2005]

why did india not play pathan i just dont know why. drop raina he aint performing. when shewag is fit, we should play him and jaffer to open then tendulkar and then kaif, we have to try something

 

[borncricketer]

Oh COME ON...91 all out? I couldnt belive that when i first heard it...wow i dunno wuts wrong with the indian team....some time ago out bowlers werent performing and or batting was good and now bowlers have been able to do a good job but our batting has once again let us down. I think Chapple seriously needs to do something...schedule extra nets or something else
i just hope that india will be able to bounce back from this defeat and at least win one of the last 3 games of the series

 

[SaiSrini]

why did india not play pathan i just dont know why. drop raina he aint performing. when shewag is fit, we should play him and jaffer to open then tendulkar and then kaif, we have to try something

oh come on! all three seamers did well today (zaheer was expensive, but he attacked in the beginning and picked up wickets). there was no need for irfan in this match. we lost because of our batting, not our bowling.

Oh COME ON...91 all out? I couldnt belive that when i first heard it...wow i dunno wuts wrong with the indian team....some time ago out bowlers werent performing and or batting was good and now bowlers have been able to do a good job but our batting has once again let us down. I think Chapple seriously needs to do something...schedule extra nets or something else
i just hope that india will be able to bounce back from this defeat and at least win one of the last 3 games of the series

So u now want us to win at least one? well, thats better than me, who doesnt mind all defeats but defeats with a fight.

I am now more interested in one of tomorrow's Ranji trophy match between Bengal vs Punjab!

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/engine/current/match/263080.html

Should be interesting. Mr. Dada has a century behind him in his last domestic match (Duleep trophy). A few consistent performances here in the Ranji season would do him lot of good. I sense that the tide is slowly starting to blow on his side. This is his best chance. There are places in the Indian team up for grabs, and if he truly succeeds in the first few matches of Bengal's campaign in the Ranji trophy, who knows he will be back in the Indian team soon!

 

[ZexyZahid]

Yes, that's the way it is. The more India loses, the bigger the chance Ganguly will come back.

 

[borncricketer]

well yaa i dont mind defeats with a fight either..but it would be nice if they win atleast one and if they can put up a decent fight then they can also pull of a win

 

[surendar]

I missed the match yesterday.... Very much disappointed when saw the scorcard! As expected, Indians failed to play against the quality pace! Tendulkar was the only man to get above 30! Raina n Kaif failed.. Ganguly shd be already by now with pads to practice for future games

But a classic allround display from Kallis!

 

[Cricket_god]

Batting second in durban is difficult even australia got all out for 93.allthough i excepted india to get 150 on that pitch.guys like raina and dhoni hane to given some time its their first tour of south africa.but sachin played well for his 35and showed some class i enjoyed his innings its better than those 100 on flat tracks.but the selection was baffling first you do not select a guy like gambhir who played well in the top end series in australia and is a good cutter and puller then you play a useless fellow like dinesh mongia in middle order i think pathan is a better batsman than him .Next match play 5 bowlers
play shreesanth,kumble,pathan,zaheer,munaf and bat dravid at no3.we have to accept south africa is a far superior side to us in one-days.

please guys forget about ganguly
his chapter is closed i do not think he could have done much better here.he will struggle against punjab pacers in mohali i am sure.

 

[prarara]

Yah I agree. If Ganguly could not muster up the will against fellow Indian pacers, some who lack the full capabilities possessed by the South Africans, I doubt he would do well in this situation.

It seems that the only chance India has, batting wise, is from Dravid and Tendulkar. The others seem to have to many technical fallacies against pace, though of course, I'm not a batting coach, so my word on that is of a layman.

 

[jkartik]

Nothing Surprising ! i expected this from the indians... :

Is it just me or does anyone else feel that the team is getting lethargic
and less committed match by match ??

as usual..dravid says," After going through how we got out, we will have to learn."

source-http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/269350.html

how many matches does he need to LEARN !!

 

[Cricket_god]

Nothing Surprising ! i expected this from the indians... :

Is it just me or does anyone else feel that the team is getting lethargic
and less committed match by match ??

as usual..dravid says," After going through how we got out, we will have to learn."

source-http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/269350.html

how many matches does he need to LEARN !!

Its not about commitment every cricketer give his best its just that they do not have that much experience in facing bouncy pitches .they should get better as the tour progresses one thing on their side is age.

 

[jkartik]

Its not about commitment every cricketer give his best its just that they do not have that much experience in facing bouncy pitches .they should get better as the tour progresses one thing on their side is age.

then whats been happening to them since the tour of west indies ??
what happened to them in CT ? they were struggling even in home conditions !!

 

[SaiSrini]

Its not about commitment every cricketer give his best its just that they do not have that much experience in facing bouncy pitches .they should get better as the tour progresses one thing on their side is age.

we have been practicing on bouncy pitches since 1986 or so...... we have lost overseas tours since 1986. couldnt we learn from all those experiences?

ganguly is done... ganguly cant do any worse than a raina or mongia..... defintiely. he will be much more determined to do well now and cant do worser than the above two mentioned guys!

Nothing Surprising ! i expected this from the indians... :

Is it just me or does anyone else feel that the team is getting lethargic
and less committed match by match ??

as usual..dravid says," After going through how we got out, we will have to learn."

source-http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/269350.html

how many matches does he need to LEARN !!

I agree with you greatly my friend!

please guys forget about ganguly
his chapter is closed i do not think he could have done much better here.he will struggle against punjab pacers in mohali i am sure.

my answer is given above! anyways, ganguly is definitely better than the non performers who are currently in the team due to chappell!

 

[Cricket_god]

we have been practicing on bouncy pitches since 1986 or so...... we have lost overseas tours since 1986. couldnt we learn from all those experiences?

ganguly is done... ganguly cant do any worse than a raina or mongia..... defintiely. he will be much more determined to do well now and cant do worser than the above two mentioned guys!



I agree with you greatly my friend!



my answer is given above! anyways, ganguly is definitely better than the non performers who are currently in the team due to chappell!

The present team members were not there in 1986


Also atleast raina has age on his side yes mongia should never have been there i agree with you comment there.but instead of ganguly there are atleast ten other players you can try on current form even ganguly is struggling against first class teams who have medicore fast bowling attacks.

 

[Manohar]

The present team members were not there in 1986


Also atleast raina has age on his side yes mongia should never have been there i agree with you comment there.but instead of ganguly there are atleast ten other players you can try on current form even ganguly is struggling against first class teams who have medicore fast bowling attacks.

India's batting used to be the better of the three areas now it is not so. I think the team management got over confident and fiddled with it too much. Make-shift batsmen and mediocre batsmen could do well in flat wickets but in demanding wickets they are not able to contribute.

In this SA ODI series one has to be stuck with the present group but I hope some planning is underway regarding batting focussed towards the world cup. In the West Indies the wickets seems to be slow. Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar and Yuvraj could still come good but the rest needs to be scrutinized. Kaif is not convincing any more. Feel sorry for Raina. He is just 19 and has been thrown in the deep end without a lot of domestic cricket. One may have to give a few more chances for Jaffer in ODIs before passing judgement on him. I do not know about Mongia. He has played about 54 ODIs including the last world cup. He does not seem to me that he will develop into a match winner. If he is he should have convinced people by now. His selection seems to be more political than performance or potential. There are several batsmen better than him and if he is considered an all rounder I would rather have someone like Ramesh Powar get more chances.

If Mongia gets a second chance like this then there are several other better batsmen who may deserve a second chance such as Laxman, Gambhir, even Ganguly. Laxman has scored 6 ODI centuries and most of them against Australia. He has an average similar to Sehwag. People complain about his fitness and fielding. In the matches he played I did not see that his fielding is bad. I think that he is younger than Dravid. In the West Indies the wickets are slow and so Ganguly could also do better if he is physically fit.

If Zonal bias always influence selection Indian team can never strive to be the best.

Below are the ODI statistics for the Indian batsmen.

Name Mat I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
MS Dhoni 56 50 13 1610 183* 43.51 97.75 2 9 54 11
R Dravid 297 276 34 9578 153 39.57 70.43 12 71 180 14
G Gambhir 16 16 0 409 103 25.56 75.88 1 1 6 -
SC Ganguly 278 269 21 10101 183 40.72 73.84 22 60 96 -
RS Gavaskar 11 10 2 151 54 18.87 64.52 - 1 5 -
W Jaffer 1 1 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 - - - -
M Kaif 123 108 24 2733 111* 32.53 72.24 2 17 54 -
VVS Laxman 85 82 7 2338 131 31.17 71.25 6 10 39 -
D Mongia 54 48 7 1155 159* 28.17 72.59 1 4 21 -
PA Patel 14 10 1 132 28 14.66 58.40 - - 12 3
IK Pathan 69 51 13 951 83 25.02 80.45 - 5 11 -
RR Powar 16 9 4 107 54 21.40 67.29 - 1 - -
SK Raina 34 27 5 589 81* 26.77 73.07 - 3 14 -
V Sehwag 153 149 7 4554 130 32.07 96.44 7 24 64 -
SR Tendulkar 371 362 35 14479 186* 44.27 85.69 40 73 111 -
AR Uthappa 3 3 0 98 86 32.66 79.67 - 1 1 -
Y Venugopal Rao 16 11 2 218 61* 24.22 60.05 - 1 6 -
Jai P Yadav 12 7 3 81 69 20.25 65.85 - 1 3 -
Yuvraj Singh 159 144 21 4286 139 34.84 85.78 7 25 53 -