India Team Discussion

[icyman]

Suryakumar Yadav- interesting case. e hasn't had lady luck favour him, since he was dumped by KKR. At one point, he was deputizing for Gautam Gambhir at KKR. The India call-up definitely has come in a bit late. I see him as a T20 specialist, one whom India has lacked over the years. I feel, he was hastily included in the India setup, without having given him adequate time.

Like Rahane and Pujara, SKY should be considered solely for the purpose of T20s. I see a lot of support for SKY to take the #4, #5 slot in ODIs, but thats another story. India probably should look at specific format based players, as opposed to creating an all-format team. This hasn't worked for anyone in the recent past and I do not see it working in the near future as well.

 

[icyman]

Captaincy skill doesn't matter

If that were the case, Ganguly should have been a 12th man, most of his life. Time for cricket to embrace the Tennis structure of a non-playing captain. Sit in the dug out and marshall resources from there on.

Woolmer and Cronje briefly flirted with the idea in the CWC 1999, but that was shot down almost instanteneously.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

If that were the case, Ganguly should have been a 12th man, most of his life. Time for cricket to embrace the Tennis structure of a non-playing captain. Sit in the dug out and marshall resources from there on.

Woolmer and Cronje briefly flirted with the idea in the CWC 1999, but that was shot down almost instanteneously.

I don't think this idea can be implemented in a team sport. In a game like Cricket, you cannot really work well sitting in the dugout. A sport like Cricket where weather & pitch conditions can dominate and even control the strategies. Also, you really need someone on the field to inspire confidence and at the same time lift the spirits of the players. A performance of a player is always a secondary aspect while man management is important. And if that player is the best player in the side then it's an added advantage.

 

[icyman]

Disagree!

Give on-field roles. India toyed with this idea during the CWC 2011 wherein they named Zaheer Khan as the bowling captain. He was instrumental in letting MS know whom to give the overs and effect the field changes.

Nominate a person- say the chirpiest to motivate the side. The other changes can be rung in from beyond the boundary ropes. Let the 12th man patrol the boundary and keep speaking in the ears of the outfielders. This can work!

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

He was instrumental in letting MS know whom to give the overs and effect the field changes.

Perhaps final decisions were taken by Dhoni himself. You don't just need random people to come up and put their strategy to use. There has to be a decision maker on the field.

Would be right to say this thing in Hindi,

Aise koi aira gera nathu gera Captain nhi banta (You don't find dumb people to Captain)...... You need someone with skills to find a common ground that could benefit the side as a whole under pressure situation.

To tell you as compared to other sports, a Captain has far more influence in Cricket. And it is deemed fit to have such an influence on the field.

 

[SaiSrini]

Captaincy skill doesn't matter. Batting skill matters. The best batsman of the team will be the captain.

That's what we have been doing in recent times. But trust me - captaincy skills matters the most! Thats the reason why Ganguly and Dhoni were such huge successes, even though neither was the best batsman of the team when they captained the side. Ganguly came in after Sachin, Dravid and Laxman. Dhoni also had most of these legends in the test team and even in ODI's, he had Sachin, Yuvraj who were in a higher pecking order.

Best batsman dont necessarily make good captains and the biggest example of that has to be Sachin Tendulkar.

 

[Ashutosh.]

But trust me - captaincy skills matters the most!

I know. My previous post was a sarcasm.

 

[abhi_jacko]

If that were the case, Ganguly should have been a 12th man, most of his life.

Most of his life ? LOL !!

Ganguly would be drafted in the team on his batting alone, let alone his ability to roll over his arm and get wickets at critical junctures - except for the last couple of years where he got too slow to manage his short ball issues, he was a mighty fine batter

 

[icyman]

My bad! I was drafting some a LOR for someone and seems I kept on using most of his career in that.

Correction:Ganguly would have been a 12th man towards the end.

 

[harishankar]

The sheer artistry and class of the Sachin-Dravid-Ganguly-Laxman era is unmatched to this day. We have a lot of power hitters today but Ganguly in his prime hit the ball effortlessly with great effect. Even Sehwag was something else at his prime.

 

[abhi_jacko]

The sheer artistry and class of the Sachin-Dravid-Ganguly-Laxman era is unmatched to this day. We have a lot of power hitters today but Ganguly in his prime hit the ball effortlessly with great effect. Even Sehwag was something else at his prime.

Amen

Sachin and Ganguly used to race to 100 in 15 overs and pile up centuries during an era where 250 was usually par score and 275 was often a winning total in ODIs. That's an incredible strike rate and team score percentage.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Amen

Sachin and Ganguly used to race to 100 in 15 overs and pile up centuries during an era where 250 was usually par score and 275 was often a winning total in ODIs. That's an incredible strike rate and team score percentage.

Then rest of the batsmen collapse and we end up with 197/10

 

[Skankhunt_42]

Death of Indian cricket. Too early to say? May be! Not accustomed to watch such Pedestrian performance. BCCI already put the nail in the coffin.

 

[icyman]

No!

Its a team in transition and they are playing without a leader. Give them a couple more series to figure out the best combo, batting orders, all rounders etc. In the interim, you can expect a few thrashings like this.

 

[Targaryen]

I don't see India getting any better atleast in next couple of years. I'll be more than happy to be proven wrong.