Indian Premier League - General Discussion

SaiSrini said:
Lots of interesting names doled out on social media for the replacement - Nathan Ellis, Jason Behrendorff, Naveen Ul Haq, Topley, etc. Some have gone on and done an April fools by saying Alex Hales is already signed up as replacement :D I wouldn't go for a batsman right now to replace Hazlewood as the batting is overflowing with Indian guys. An overseas seamer would be better. I'm actually inclined towards Behrendorff, a good death bowler from what I've read of his work in recent BBL. We played on flatter wickets of Mumbai and Bangalore where Bangalore is also a tiny ground. A good death bowler can help with Bravo on the wane and Ngidi blowing hot and cold.
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Behrendorff would be a front runner to replace Hazlewood because of his ability to swing the new ball at the start of the innings which would be a nice left-arm option alongside Chahar at the start of the innings. Not too sure about this death overs bowling though, think his strength lies purely in the Powerplay at the start. Topley would be a very good option, he played the recent ODI series against India and I thought he bowled very well at the death. His height (6'7) allows him to get some extra bounce to cramp batsmen, which makes him a real genuine death overs bowler which CSK would like with an inconsistent Ngidi and a Bravo on the decline. Pretty much a matter of whether you want someone to bowl at the beginning of the innings, or have some cushion for the back-end.

Hazlewood is a decent white ball bowler, he may have got more games this season but was rarely featured last season under Dhoni so I doubt he would've gotten the purple cap under him. I think CSK need a "hit the deck hard" type of bowler which will suit them playing at Wankhede. They could do with another death overs bowler but that specific type of bowler would complete their attack.
 
Velocity said:
Behrendorff would be a front runner to replace Hazlewood because of his ability to swing the new ball at the start of the innings which would be a nice left-arm option alongside Chahar at the start of the innings. Not too sure about this death overs bowling though, think his strength lies purely in the Powerplay at the start. Topley would be a very good option, he played the recent ODI series against India and I thought he bowled very well at the death. His height (6'7) allows him to get some extra bounce to cramp batsmen, which makes him a real genuine death overs bowler which CSK would like with an inconsistent Ngidi and a Bravo on the decline. Pretty much a matter of whether you want someone to bowl at the beginning of the innings, or have some cushion for the back-end.

Hazlewood is a decent white ball bowler, he may have got more games this season but was rarely featured last season under Dhoni so I doubt he would've gotten the purple cap under him. I think CSK need a "hit the deck hard" type of bowler which will suit them playing at Wankhede. They could do with another death overs bowler but that specific type of bowler would complete their attack.
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Death bowling is where we need support. Deepak Chahar, Sam Curran, Shardul Thakur are all good at the initial Powerplay overs. Shardul has really improved on his death bowling skills in recent times and is one option. Ngidi its supposed to be another guy who bowls really well for us in the death (he did that job in our 2018 title run). But last season, Ngidi got smashed by Archer in that Sharjah game and lost support and was benched. Id still back him for his age and the fact that he'd likely have learnt from the experience, but one more guy to backup for Bravo is needed.

I kinda think CSK will hand games to Harishankar Reddy (the unknown Andhra pacer). He has been bowling well in the nets and got his famous moment of sending Dhoni's leg stump cartwheeling in the nets (videos surfaced of it). Again, a bowler with good height and more than decent pace. Not sure how much will he do at the death, but if Bravo and Thakur man the death, Curran/Chahar/Harishankar can handle the Powerplay and middle overs. Or they might try KM Asif again (he played one game for CSK but has been with him for almost eternity)).
 
If you wanted a very close replacement to Hazlewood, Dorff would probably be the closest. The only difference I can see is that he bowls left-arm. @Velocity is right in that he is ineffective at the death.

Not too sure why players backing out of a tournament where they would have to spend two months in a closed bubble yet again in a country that is seeing an explosion of cases are being criticized? I can understand why it looks unprofessional but these are exceptional circumstances and can you honestly blame them when they were unlikely to be regulars and in Hazlewood's case was severely underpaid? I'm surprised that names like Smith haven't pulled out. I suppose the fact that a good IPL this time (especially in the absence of Shreyas Iyer) would mean him going for a big price next year as the leader of one of the new franchises does tempt him to stay though.
 
So here's the lineup that I would pick for the first game.

Faf
Gaikwad
Raina
Rayudu
Jadeja
Curran
Dhoni
Thakur
Chahar
Ngidi
Tahir

I'm assuming that Ngidi will be available. Rest of the XI is broadly similar to what we had last season. Raina is probably playing and at the moment I would back him. Jadeja at five should be the way going forward and I wouldn't be surprised if Dhoni plays himself at seven seeing how well Curran was batting in the last ODI.

So the gutsy calls for me are...

Gaikwad obviously. Jagadeesan was in good form this time in the SMAT but so was Gaikwad last time and he did not get any reward for it. Then he finally gets his due last IPL and scores three consecutive fifties after the negative spotlight around him. Now if he is dropped because his SMAT performance wasn't great then what rationale is being used to judge him? Faf had a good partnership with him last time around, I would want him in too unless we sign Hales or Conway. Even then, Faf deserves the first few games given how vital he was last season.

Rayudu deserves to continue batting at four. His fitness is a worry but he can score boundaries in the middle overs which is invaluable.

Mo is probably not starting at the moment given that the top seven are pretty much set in stone. The only way he gets in is if Curran is dropped and I would prefer to see Curran play.

Tahir is the only wrist spinner we have and I want him to be a lock in the playing XI. His fielding will be questionable but if he can take vital wickets it will be worth it.

I'm not too concerned over our death bowling, all four pacers can bowl at least an over at the death and Bravo is still waiting in the wings if we need another alternative. Viljoen could also be an interesting addition if he does replace Hazlewood.
 
Bevab said:
So here's the lineup that I would pick for the first game.

Faf
Gaikwad
Raina
Rayudu
Jadeja
Curran
Dhoni
Thakur
Chahar
Ngidi
Tahir

I'm assuming that Ngidi will be available. Rest of the XI is broadly similar to what we had last season. Raina is probably playing and at the moment I would back him. Jadeja at five should be the way going forward and I wouldn't be surprised if Dhoni plays himself at seven seeing how well Curran was batting in the last ODI.

So the gutsy calls for me are...

Gaikwad obviously. Jagadeesan was in good form this time in the SMAT but so was Gaikwad last time and he did not get any reward for it. Then he finally gets his due last IPL and scores three consecutive fifties after the negative spotlight around him. Now if he is dropped because his SMAT performance wasn't great then what rationale is being used to judge him? Faf had a good partnership with him last time around, I would want him in too unless we sign Hales or Conway. Even then, Faf deserves the first few games given how vital he was last season.

Rayudu deserves to continue batting at four. His fitness is a worry but he can score boundaries in the middle overs which is invaluable.

Mo is probably not starting at the moment given that the top seven are pretty much set in stone. The only way he gets in is if Curran is dropped and I would prefer to see Curran play.

Tahir is the only wrist spinner we have and I want him to be a lock in the playing XI. His fielding will be questionable but if he can take vital wickets it will be worth it.

I'm not too concerned over our death bowling, all four pacers can bowl at least an over at the death and Bravo is still waiting in the wings if we need another alternative. Viljoen could also be an interesting addition if he does replace Hazlewood.
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Won't be signing Conway. He's not allowed to leave and return New Zealand under current restrictions. Might hinder him his involvement England tour. https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...on-conway-travelling-for-england-tour-1257559
 
Bevab said:
So here's the lineup that I would pick for the first game.

Faf
Gaikwad
Raina
Rayudu
Jadeja
Curran
Dhoni
Thakur
Chahar
Ngidi
Tahir

I'm assuming that Ngidi will be available. Rest of the XI is broadly similar to what we had last season. Raina is probably playing and at the moment I would back him. Jadeja at five should be the way going forward and I wouldn't be surprised if Dhoni plays himself at seven seeing how well Curran was batting in the last ODI.

So the gutsy calls for me are...

Gaikwad obviously. Jagadeesan was in good form this time in the SMAT but so was Gaikwad last time and he did not get any reward for it. Then he finally gets his due last IPL and scores three consecutive fifties after the negative spotlight around him. Now if he is dropped because his SMAT performance wasn't great then what rationale is being used to judge him? Faf had a good partnership with him last time around, I would want him in too unless we sign Hales or Conway. Even then, Faf deserves the first few games given how vital he was last season.

Rayudu deserves to continue batting at four. His fitness is a worry but he can score boundaries in the middle overs which is invaluable.

Mo is probably not starting at the moment given that the top seven are pretty much set in stone. The only way he gets in is if Curran is dropped and I would prefer to see Curran play.

Tahir is the only wrist spinner we have and I want him to be a lock in the playing XI. His fielding will be questionable but if he can take vital wickets it will be worth it.

I'm not too concerned over our death bowling, all four pacers can bowl at least an over at the death and Bravo is still waiting in the wings if we need another alternative. Viljoen could also be an interesting addition if he does replace Hazlewood.
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Ngidi is not available for Game 1. He is released on April 4th from the SA-PAK series. I read somewhere that CSK want him to undergo the 6 day quarantine. Which will make him unavailable for our first game on April 10th. I would bring in Bravo for Ngidi in your above lineup, to account for the death bowling.

On your Rutu-Jaggi dilemma, honestly that's not the actual dilemma. Its got to do with Robin Uthappa'ss rampaging form in the recent Vijay Hazare trophy and the fact that he brings in oodles of experience with him. If it was between Rutu and Jaggi, even though Jaggi had an excellent SMAT and Rutu had an average one, overall Ruturaj has the better S/R in all T20's (130) vs Jaggi's 125. But with Uthappa, his S/R is slightly better but also he has the experience of 270+ T20 matches as opposed to these two boys who have played 35-40 T20 matches. CSK will need strong and big starts at Wankhede if they got to score above 180 and I am inclined to play Uthappa.

Its going to be a tough XI to choose for CSK seeing so many options they have. And that's why I am surprised that certain pundits think CSK will end up No. 8 this season on the points table. I actually think that the squad they've assembled this season (barring injuries) means they could actually reduce the reliance of Dhoni and have him play almost a "mentor-captain" role and not bat much in the middle). Raina will be crucial though, and his form (and how they deal with him if he starts poor) will define our season
 
SaiSrini said:
Ngidi is not available for Game 1. He is released on April 4th from the SA-PAK series. I read somewhere that CSK want him to undergo the 6 day quarantine. Which will make him unavailable for our first game on April 10th. I would bring in Bravo for Ngidi in your above lineup, to account for the death bowling.

On your Rutu-Jaggi dilemma, honestly that's not the actual dilemma. Its got to do with Robin Uthappa'ss rampaging form in the recent Vijay Hazare trophy and the fact that he brings in oodles of experience with him. If it was between Rutu and Jaggi, even though Jaggi had an excellent SMAT and Rutu had an average one, overall Ruturaj has the better S/R in all T20's (130) vs Jaggi's 125. But with Uthappa, his S/R is slightly better but also he has the experience of 270+ T20 matches as opposed to these two boys who have played 35-40 T20 matches. CSK will need strong and big starts at Wankhede if they got to score above 180 and I am inclined to play Uthappa.

Its going to be a tough XI to choose for CSK seeing so many options they have. And that's why I am surprised that certain pundits think CSK will end up No. 8 this season on the points table. I actually think that the squad they've assembled this season (barring injuries) means they could actually reduce the reliance of Dhoni and have him play almost a "mentor-captain" role and not bat much in the middle). Raina will be crucial though, and his form (and how they deal with him if he starts poor) will define our season
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I'm actually surprised that you would prefer Uthappa considering youe disdain for Rayudu. :D

Uthappa's equally bad in the field and is a poor runner too. I don't remember Rayudu being reckless with his running between the wickets either, just lethargic. Uthappa on the other hand is most definitely reckless, the number of times Stokes and him miscommunicated was funny to see. He was in good domestic form last year too but then struggled in the IPL until the end when they gave him the opening spot. Even then I'd argue that it was only because RR had no choice but to play him somewhere and somehow.

I would keep him in the squad as a good backup but unless Gaikwad and Jagadeesan/Raina both fail I wouldn't want him to play.
 
Hyderabad is considered as an alternate option if COVID cases continues to rise up in Mumbai & Maharashtra which is mostly likely to happen.
 
Bigby Wolf said:
www.hindustantimes.com

Many Wankhede Stadium ground staff test positive, officials confident IPL games won’t be hit

Till Saturday morning half the number of ground staff at the famous venue had returned positive tests, raising concerns with just a week to go for matches to start in Mumbai.
www.hindustantimes.com www.hindustantimes.com

Not looking Good.
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This is pretty much all going to shit. India was always going to be very risky to hold a big tournament with a huge number of cases. A smart move would be to immediately switch from Mumbai to Hyderabad.
 
A friend of mine from Delhi and his parents tested positive, he tells me the situation is really escalating.
 
Bevab said:
I'm actually surprised that you would prefer Uthappa considering youe disdain for Rayudu. :D

Uthappa's equally bad in the field and is a poor runner too. I don't remember Rayudu being reckless with his running between the wickets either, just lethargic. Uthappa on the other hand is most definitely reckless, the number of times Stokes and him miscommunicated was funny to see. He was in good domestic form last year too but then struggled in the IPL until the end when they gave him the opening spot. Even then I'd argue that it was only because RR had no choice but to play him somewhere and somehow.

I would keep him in the squad as a good backup but unless Gaikwad and Jagadeesan/Raina both fail I wouldn't want him to play.
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Thats the problem aint it with CSK? They pick all these discards and you gotta choose among the breadcrumbs... I know about Uthappa's running too, but his form as an opener is really good and as you said, he started doing better when he was given the opening spot. Considering that we will be at Wankhede, we need fast scorers at the top and the experience of Uthappa gave me feeling that he will do better. Also his camaraderie with MSD is something that I feel will work in CSK's favor because he will be in a comfort zone and if given his comfort of opening, I feel Uthappa might actually turn a corner for himself. Somehow I am not inspired by Rayudu at all to want to see him the CSK XI. If Uthappa and Faf/Rutu/Jaggi open for CSK, you can actually play Moeen in the middle and not have Rayudu.

This brings back to my thought that there is so many options right now that its very confusing as to the best XI for CSK... Hope Flemmo and MS put a lot of thought to it and pick the best one. All matters is it should fall in place.
 
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