themusketeer
ICC Board Member
- Joined
- Aug 29, 2014
- Location
- Greater Noida
- Profile Flag
- India
- Online Cricket Games Owned
- Don Bradman Cricket 14 - Steam PC
India's tour of Australia - January 2016
- Thread starter AliB
- Start date
greymatter776
Panel of Selectors
Was watching the Highlights today and whenever a four or a wicket was shown, some weird Chotta Bheem animations were shown.Would have loved that years back but it feels awkward now?
Was watching the Highlights today and whenever a four or a wicket was shown, some weird Chotta Bheem animations were shown.Would have loved that years back but it feels awkward now
Lol what channel were you watching it on?
themusketeer
ICC Board Member
- Joined
- Aug 29, 2014
- Location
- Greater Noida
- Profile Flag
- India
- Online Cricket Games Owned
- Don Bradman Cricket 14 - Steam PC
I didn't see it. You sure you weren't on Cartoon Network.Was watching the Highlights today and whenever a four or a wicket was shown, some weird Chotta Bheem animations were shown.Would have loved that years back but it feels awkward now
greymatter776
Panel of Selectors
I didn't see it. You sure you weren't on Cartoon Network.
Well Starsports,highlights from 5:30 pm IST.
BTW CHotta Bheem was on POGO not CN.
Well Starsports,highlights from 5:30 pm IST.
BTW CHotta Bheem was on POGO not CN.
I will judge you for knowing this :P
themusketeer
ICC Board Member
- Joined
- Aug 29, 2014
- Location
- Greater Noida
- Profile Flag
- India
- Online Cricket Games Owned
- Don Bradman Cricket 14 - Steam PC
As Poker said i will judge you too for knowing this.BTW CHotta Bheem was on POGO not CN.
Very surprised to see Dhoni still defending BCCI for not using DRS. This stubborn attitude is only going to hurt Indian cricket.
Back to the match, I was so frustrated with the Kohli-Rohit partnership. They rotated the strike brilliantly but again failed to play their shots once they were settled. When Rohit did play some shots, it was way too late. Looking at how we were going, 350 should have been the score we could have achieved. That kind of score was also needed because the pitch was batting friendly.
I was absolutely gobsmacked when Rohit did that interview after our inning with Mark Nicholas and said we have got a good score because the par score here is 240. I mean even a person like me who is watching from TV can tell that the pitch they batted on was a completely different surface then what we usually see in Perth. On this pitch 300 was probably a par score and also looking at our bowing 350 should have been the target. Especially after the partnership that Kohli and Rohit had.
Also poor start for Ashwin but hopefully he can get back into the grove. He is very important for us if we want to win this series. Good to see Saran bowling well on his debut
EDIT: SOMEONE PLEASE KIDNAP STEVEN SMITH
Back to the match, I was so frustrated with the Kohli-Rohit partnership. They rotated the strike brilliantly but again failed to play their shots once they were settled. When Rohit did play some shots, it was way too late. Looking at how we were going, 350 should have been the score we could have achieved. That kind of score was also needed because the pitch was batting friendly.
I was absolutely gobsmacked when Rohit did that interview after our inning with Mark Nicholas and said we have got a good score because the par score here is 240. I mean even a person like me who is watching from TV can tell that the pitch they batted on was a completely different surface then what we usually see in Perth. On this pitch 300 was probably a par score and also looking at our bowing 350 should have been the target. Especially after the partnership that Kohli and Rohit had.
Also poor start for Ashwin but hopefully he can get back into the grove. He is very important for us if we want to win this series. Good to see Saran bowling well on his debut
EDIT: SOMEONE PLEASE KIDNAP STEVEN SMITH
Last edited:
To be honest, on the Bailey out but not out thing, I don;t think they would have reviewed even if reviewing was an option. The simple reason for that is that neither Sran nor Dhoni really seemed convinced in that appeal. It was only half an appeal anyway to be honest. Even after the not out was given, there was no reaction.
Even if a review was avaiable, it would not have been reviewed I feel.
Dhoni on DRS -
"If you see the deviations in DRS, there are quite a few deviations. Even the makers agree that can happen. Now you have to also take into account whether it was given not out or out. If it was given out it needs to touch the stump [for the decision to remain out]; if it was not out it needs to hit half the stump [to be given out]. That itself makes the variable too big. In cricket every inch, every millimetre, matters.
"DRS should not be the umpires' decision justification system. It should be giving the right decision. Like in tennis you don't say the umpire called it out and half the ball has to pitch inside the line. It has to be plain and simple. You don't have to keep too many things in consideration. You either say, 'This is DRS, doesn't matter whether it is given out or not out, if half the ball is hitting the stumps, you are out.' Irrespective of the decision. Now, for example, you take DRS, in an lbw decision, what changes everything is whether it was given in favour or not. It can mean a margin of one inch overall, and that is very big."
Well said Dhoni.
"If you see the deviations in DRS, there are quite a few deviations. Even the makers agree that can happen. Now you have to also take into account whether it was given not out or out. If it was given out it needs to touch the stump [for the decision to remain out]; if it was not out it needs to hit half the stump [to be given out]. That itself makes the variable too big. In cricket every inch, every millimetre, matters.
"DRS should not be the umpires' decision justification system. It should be giving the right decision. Like in tennis you don't say the umpire called it out and half the ball has to pitch inside the line. It has to be plain and simple. You don't have to keep too many things in consideration. You either say, 'This is DRS, doesn't matter whether it is given out or not out, if half the ball is hitting the stumps, you are out.' Irrespective of the decision. Now, for example, you take DRS, in an lbw decision, what changes everything is whether it was given in favour or not. It can mean a margin of one inch overall, and that is very big."
Well said Dhoni.
Shashank Manohar, India's new board president, also the ICC chairman, had earlier stood by India's opposition of DRS on tenuous grounds as well. "Instead of the umpire imagining the bounce and the direction of the trajectory, it is the person sitting behind the camera who is going into the DRS," he said in a Facebook interaction with the fans. "He is going to have his imagination put in the place of the umpire's imagination with regard to the bounce."
Since we have already discussed DRS at length today, I have to ask this. Why is ICC not letting BCCI accept partial DRS. Why is a case of either take it completely or leave it the only options to BCCI. We know the two objections BCCI has to DRS -
1) Hot Spot alone not enough and faulty - This was proven correct after the Aus Ashes in 2013, post which Hot Spot was removed as part of the DRS process for being inaccurate. Since then Hot Spot is used in conjunction with Sniko. BCCI is fine with this. So BCCI would be okay with this or just using sniko. This is done for other Boards as SL and Bangladesh don't use Hot SPot for DRS anyway.
2) BCCI is fine with Ball tracking, upto the point where the actual path of the ball is tracked. BCCI has issues with the part that predicts the path the ball will travel after impact. This can be removed, and only the part that BCCI is okay with can be used. In any case if an Umpire is shown a clear path the ball has travelled, and where it hit the ball, even a half baked Umpire will be able to make the call.
So a modified DRS can be used for BCCI series, like its done for SL series (where Hot Spot is not used), but BCCI doesn't seem to have this option.
Anyway the Umpiring decision today didn't affect the match today. Bailey and Smith batted very well, and India were just too poor in the field to actually dserve to win. However I see DRS DRS every where in this thread right now, so I thought I will point it out.
Since we have already discussed DRS at length today, I have to ask this. Why is ICC not letting BCCI accept partial DRS. Why is a case of either take it completely or leave it the only options to BCCI. We know the two objections BCCI has to DRS -
1) Hot Spot alone not enough and faulty - This was proven correct after the Aus Ashes in 2013, post which Hot Spot was removed as part of the DRS process for being inaccurate. Since then Hot Spot is used in conjunction with Sniko. BCCI is fine with this. So BCCI would be okay with this or just using sniko. This is done for other Boards as SL and Bangladesh don't use Hot SPot for DRS anyway.
2) BCCI is fine with Ball tracking, upto the point where the actual path of the ball is tracked. BCCI has issues with the part that predicts the path the ball will travel after impact. This can be removed, and only the part that BCCI is okay with can be used. In any case if an Umpire is shown a clear path the ball has travelled, and where it hit the ball, even a half baked Umpire will be able to make the call.
So a modified DRS can be used for BCCI series, like its done for SL series (where Hot Spot is not used), but BCCI doesn't seem to have this option.
Anyway the Umpiring decision today didn't affect the match today. Bailey and Smith batted very well, and India were just too poor in the field to actually dserve to win. However I see DRS DRS every where in this thread right now, so I thought I will point it out.
Nailed it! Absolutely nailed it! Its just like "We are the connoisseurs of cricket. Whatever we do is good for cricket. Whatever India does, is not good for cricket".
On the game, well I am not too hurt by this. I knew Australian batting will be a pretty hard nut to crack for us. If our bowlers can improve, we can get in more tighter games and maybe snatch a few wins and lose it 3-2 if possible. I dont even envision a series win for us, but a 3-2 result wont be bad. MSD though for all reasons is past his date. But let me be quiet. For some reason, whenever I criticize MSD, a bunch of Indian fans jump against me.
Last edited:
Ya i thought we were about 30-40 runs short considering the position we were in. Also the last 10 overs we didn't get as many runs as we probably could have. However, 309 was not bad and we should have defended it with proper bowling. I think Bhuvneshwar kumar is completely useless and he has forgotten how to bowl. He is trying to bowl faster than he should and he is another reason why our bowling is ineffective. I would considering having Ishant in his place.
Player2011
Club Captain
MSD didn't utilize the bowler well. He had some fixed plan in his mind. No plan B.
very late used of Sran in last over. 309 was great score. No won lost match who made 275 runs in that stadium except Aus this time. At last in record book, India lost the match.
very late used of Sran in last over. 309 was great score. No won lost match who made 275 runs in that stadium except Aus this time. At last in record book, India lost the match.
Similar threads
