India's tour of Australia - January 2016

[stefan]

Why is BCCI not using DRS such a big deal? Especially in light of DRS having gotten into so many blunders off late. You assume that the Bailey one would hvae been given out 100% on review. But that is not always the case. The very recent Lyon decision is a perfect example, similar to Bailey's -


Anyone who sees this will tell you Lyon was out, there is a clear mark on Hot Spot, and yet, Lyon was given n.o. Even Steven Smith described it as a 'pretty big error'.



Nothing on snicko, nothing on hot spot, and yet the caught behind out decision is upheld. I bet Root thought, its okay I didn't edge it and I have DRS it will be sorted out soon. DRS messes up then.

Why do you assume that for Bailey he would definitely have been given out on review. How do you know the DRS system would not have messed it up too like it did for Lyon, and Bailey would have remained not out.

Reviews are all well and good but DRS is clearly still a work in progress. In light of sudden influx in DRS errors ICC have infact commissioned another study into DRS to be done by MIT. Why not wait for the flaws to be ironed out.

Won't comment on the root one as I didn't follow it. The lyon one is an umpiring mistake has nothing to do with drs, you can have a flawless system nigel long gets it wrong it will still be wrong. Yes there were 2 decision drs got wrong but there are many more that it gets right.

Easily because there are more flaws with normal umpires then with drs. Also I believe the MIT study from the ICC is to convince the BCCI to accept drs, the ICC would like it standardized.

 

[zwarrior]

Aus should win easily from here. India were 40 runs short and ashwin has again disappointed outside the subcontinent. Expected more from him.

I am pretty sure no one could have bowled well in this dead pitch. Of course compared to others bowlers today, Ashwin's is bad, but it's not right to judge right after 1 match.

 

[PokerAce]

Aus should win easily from here. India were 40 runs short and ashwin has again disappointed outside the subcontinent. Expected more from him.

I know you want to slate him as can only perform in the subcontinent after what he did to SA, but how much of Ashwin have you followed off late. Ashwin was fantastic in the WC in Aus, and the Aus tour last year. He has for a change not performed in this game.

 

[Ohm]

I've stopped watching this match now. Can't see our bowlers being punished like that. Sorry but Dhoni fails to make decisions. He should have used Sran and Yadav for sometime when the partnership between Smith and Bailey was yet to shape up as both bowlers could have been incisive earlier. Spinners just guided Smith & Bailey to understand the pitch well, there's nothing in it in a Spinner's favor unless he got something joint of Warne and Muralitharan's class; noway, nothing could help spinners today. We should get Rishi Dhawan for next match replacing whoever Ashwin or Jadeja wouldn't make a difference unless it assist at least a little bit to spinners.

What a start we had got, though! Rohit's and Kolhli's knocks, then Sran's opening; all in vain.

 

[PokerAce]

Won't comment on the root one as I didn't follow it. The lyon one is an umpiring mistake has nothing to do with drs, you can have a flawless system nigel long gets it wrong it will still be wrong. Yes there were 2 decision drs got wrong but there are many more that it gets right.

Easily because there are more flaws with normal umpires then with drs. Also I believe the MIT study from the ICC is to convince the BCCI to accept drs, the ICC would like it standardized.

The Umpire interpretation part is very much part of the system. You can have all the tools in the world, and if you don't teach the person how to interpret the data the system is giving out, then the overall result is still a mess.

All this gets more right than wrong is pointless statistics at its best. Did this more right than wrong not apply when Lyon decision was botched or the Root one. Or what about the one involving poor Udara Jayasundera for SL against NZ, where effective what happened was that the on field umpire gave the correct decision, and DRS on review overturned the correct decision and a wrong decision eventually stood.

Take a look for yourself, its beyond hilarious.

So stop trying to make it sound like this match hinged around one decision and DRS. DRS has been given way too much credit already. Yes Bailey should have been given out by the on-field umpire, but wasn't. Would he have been given out review, in the light of DRS inconsistencies, one can't say. India bowled poorly and lost. Bailey and Smith were fantastic. Thats all there is to it.

 

[PokerAce]

I know the bowling hasnt been too clever, but honestly this is the poorest I have seen India field in a long while. Terribly lax, fielders all on the edge, singles singles easily available, not one throw git the stumps in a tight run, it was just shockingly poor in the field.

 

[stefan]

Love Bailey's comments.

George Bailey during an interview soon after his innings. 'Would've been interesting to see on DRS, but we're not the team that doesn't want it'

 

[PokerAce]

Love Bailey's comments.

George Bailey during an interview soon after his innings. 'Would've been interesting to see on DRS, but we're not the team that doesn't want it'

Yeah keep trying to make this about DRS. Also it really amuses me that you sat through the whole SA tour of India hoping for an Umpiring botch up to make your DRS point and didn't get one chance. And now that you finally have one, which is inconsequential to say the least, you cant let it go.

Also Bailey is part of the team that wants it because his team then benefits from botched DRS decisions like Lyon's and Root's. Both vids I posted earlier were both DRS botches that helped Australia. Lyon was out but ruled not out, and Root was not out but ruled out anyway. No wonder they like DRS so much.

 

[aditya123]

We scored way too less with all those wickets in hand. Batted very slowly in the middle overs. It will be hard for us to win a game this series because the Aussies bat so deep that they can keep attacking right through. We don`t have that luxury with our batting. Two spinners on these wickets is a luxury as well. I would rather play Rishi Dhawan in place of Jadeja.

 

[PokerAce]

Anyone remembers Hero Cup ... a repeat, surely not :P[DOUBLEPOST=1452596082][/DOUBLEPOST]Not that it mattered at this point, but why was a there a long on and not a mid on at that point for the final ball? Surely saving a single would make more sense than saving a boundary.

 

[stefan]

I know you want to slate him as can only perform in the subcontinent after what he did to SA, but how much of Ashwin have you followed off late. Ashwin was fantastic in the WC in Aus, and the Aus tour last year. He has for a change not performed in this game.

fair enough. I just remember him being dreadfull in SA last time and then this game. guess we will see how he goes.

 

[PokerAce]

fair enough. I just remember him being dreadfull in SA last time and then this game. guess we will see how he goes.

Yeah, he was dreadful for a long while to be honest. Even before the SA tour, I remember when Eng won in India on spinning tracks, Ashwin was shockingly poor. He was easily out performed by Swann and Monty. Him being poor was one of the reasons why India lost the series. He was nowhere near the level he is at now. After the SA tour he actually sat out of the side for a whole year. Didn't play in NZ, didn't play in ENg, maybe 1 test not sure. But then yeah did comeback in Aus, and had improved in leaps and bounds.

This is by far the worst performance from Ashwin in over a year, and even then he picked up 2 wickets. most people would be happy with that. Kinda shows the standards we expect from him now.

 

[Rehan_24]

Thats team Australia for you! A convincing win, This had been their practice during the hay days of Ponting and Micheal Hussy. Full credit to Steven Smith's dedication and how he is sensibly leading his team way through. Unlike many other Young Captains of other International Teams, Smith is mature of them all. He always means business rather than self-promotion. Good Job Australia

 

[greymatter776]

Great innings from Rohit,Kohli and good bowling from Sran.Although we failed I liked the way we played.Only thing that annoyed me is the Chotta Bheem thing

 

[PokerAce]

Great innings from Rohit,Kohli and good bowling from Sran.Although we failed I liked the way we played.Only thing that annoyed me is the Chotta Bheem thing