Ireland-Test Status

[Owzat]

Yes they do.

In cricket or football? I'm talking about a top football league, not the existing Irish leagues in the north and south. You never see an Irish team in the group stages of the Champions League, you do most other countries league no matter how ordinary their international side is. Perhaps that wasn't clear, we're not talking any old league structure, the comparison was with first class cricket

And the shame is, while I can see why a mod merged my thread with this, that the focus was meant to be general and not all about f in Ireland - even though that was the catalyst to the question. It p1sses me off bigtime that so much of the angle and anger about the World Cup being only 10 teams seemed to be mentioning Ireland way too much as if their exclusion is the be all and end all. It was "ireland" or "ireland and other countries" will miss out on the World Cup, ffs they didn't and don't contribute that much to the world of cricket bar the odd upset which in 2007 upset TV and Pakistanis most. They do no better than a lower league football team on a half-decent cup run, wouldn't cut it in the big league

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Oh and a massive NO to Ireland for Test status, they aren't good enough and we already have Zimbabwe and Bangladesh for that. Last thing we need is more fixtures, more whipping boys and anyone saying otherwise must have their own personal agenda.

Make a case for tiers by all means, I'm all for changes for the better, bringing other countries into a revamped Test structure, but I'm guessing the 'Ireland for Test status bandwagon' is more an emotion driven one than thought out.

 

[Fenil]

No, currently, they don't deserve it. If the perform well against the test playing nations at regular intervals then they can be given the test status just like it was given to Bangladesh.

 

[sifter132]

The need to first prove they are good in ODI and T20. At the same time they need to play more 3-4 day matches against A teams. The problem no one seem to be interested in them since even if they succeed, it is very small market. Everything comes down to $$$ these days.

Well said mate The market is small, so there's no real incentive to include them. And 'A' team tours are crucial, I think, as they give proper 4 day cricket against good teams, otherwise you get brought up on short form cricket and that can lead to bad habits. Look at Bangladesh for example, who've basically never had a team that could survive more than 2-3 sessions. Most are shot a minute merchants with little discipline.

 

[6ry4nj]

Until Ireland has a squad of paid, full-time, contracted players, we're never going to know how good they are. And when was the last time they even played a four-day game? How do we know they're no good at it, if they never play it? (A: Three Intercontinental Cup matches in last year, draw with Zimbabwe and wins over Netherlands and Canada. Nowhere near enough, and certainly doesn't prove they're no good)

It makes no sense whatsoever to say "when they're good enough at one-day/T20, we'll let them play Tests". Because obviously they will have developed no skills or team cohesion relating to the longer game.

All countries ought to be able to organize 5-day matches among themselves, and those matches should naturally be Tests. Similarly all one-day matches between national teams are by definition ODIs. So what if they're one-sided? Is there any other sport where this elitist distinction is even considered? The whole debate is one big colonial throwback and has no place in any sport, or in this millennium.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

imo, they need to be given the full rights of a test playing nation but not actually play any tests.

I know this makes no sense but what it should do is let them bring in a bit more money, start taking part in the ODI circuit a bit more seriously. They need to be eased in because they are a long way away from having the support and infastructure to be effective as a test nation.

 

[sifter132]

Well in a way that is almost what's happening now. The 'big' teams, particularly India and Australia, have realised that Bangladesh and Zimbabwe aren't worth the time or effort and rarely ever play them. Not how the ICC originally envisioned it I'm sure...

 

[RPHKR]

Ireland can get test status , even Bangladesh got it . At present Ireland is better than Bangladesh , And No.1 team in Part-Time member teams .....

 

[sifter132]

And yet, Scotland chased down 320-odd to beat Ireland in an ODI last week...I don't think Scotland's ever beaten anyone good so that's hardly a good sign that they are ready for Test cricket.

 

[mgt98]

With that being said, should Scotland be given Test Status?

 

[cricket_icon]

Well, if we judge by the standards with which Bang were given test status than the answer should be yes. But we can't do that any more, so the short answer is yes.
I also believe certain countries should have their test status revoked (Zimb and Bang). That is why a league, tiered system would be useful, where the associates can play a 4 day match tournament, the top team being given test status.
Also Ireland should be given more of a chance to play ODI cricket against top test nations.

 

[Ali Khan67]

Should Ireland Be Given A Place In The Test World?

Should Ireland Be Given A Place In The Test World?

 

[bali singh]

yes. they should be given a chance.
As they have quality players like O' Brien brothers
and a high class all rounder Ryan.

 

[1iram1]

yes. they should be given a chance.
As they have quality players like O' Brien brothers
and a high class all rounder Ryan.

Whos that?

 

[shravi]

Whos that?

Ten Doeschate.

 

[SaiSrini]

Do they even play T20 cricket on a consistent basis now?? Their graduation into the top format (tests) should happen after they consistently play the shorter formats.