End Game Mafia returns

[Ashutosh.]

I have a solid plan @asprin

 

[asprin]

And @zwarrior and @CerealKiller , if Rudi is indeed a killer then who among you is a townie? You both can't be because one has kill ability.

 

[asprin]

I have a solid plan @asprin

Is it something that can be safely revealed here?

 

[Ashutosh.]

Is it something that can be safely revealed here?

Typing.......
Please wait.

 

[Ashutosh.]

If RUDI is not lying -

RUDI is survivor
CK and zwarrior are scum and have killing abilities
asprin is doctor

We will lynch RUDI now because he is anti-town.
There is no doubt that CK and zwarrior will try to kill each other at night because they both are scum and have killing abilities. They both are enemy and are dangerous for each other.
One will have to kill the other if he wants to win. One of them will be killed at night.

asprin and I will kill the other scum on the next day and will win this game.

If RUDI is lying -

RUDI is either mafia or SK. We will lynch him now.

The other scum will try to kill me but doctor will save me at night and I will find out the other scum.

We will lynch the other scum next day and will win.


So whoever the mafia and SK is, we will definitely win if we will lynch RUDI now.

 

[CerealKiller]

And @zwarrior and @CerealKiller , if Rudi is indeed a killer then who among you is a townie? You both can't be because one has kill ability.

I am Town. You and Ashutosh are confirmed Town as well. That leaves Rudi and Zwarrior. Rudi is confirmed Mafia/Serial Killer. Because there are two people with kill ablity, Zwarrior is either a Town-aligned Vigilante, or Mafia.

 

[CerealKiller]

If Rudi is Mafia, then i think Z might be Town-aligned, with a killing ability. Although that would make it 5 Townies and 1 Mafia, which is unlikely. That’s why i am leaning towards the second possibility. Rudi is a Serial Killer, and Zwarrior is Mafia.

 

[asprin]

If Rudi is lying, then I agree that town can win by following your approach.

However, if Rudi is not lying then there is a problem. It's not necessary that the mafia and SK have to kill each other, at least not for the mafia since his win condition would be that all townies should be dead or there can't be a lynch during day via votes (a possibility if there's only 2 left after the night phase)

Going by what everyone has posted after the start of Day 3, my readings are as follows:

CK - Mafia
Rudi - SK (Rudi's win condition of sole survivor works only if he is the SK). My guess is that when copy-pasting Till Vallaha's PM, Rudi replaced the role wording but forgot to adjust the win condition thereby trapping himself.

What that in mind,

Lynch: Rudi

Also, I still cant believe no is talking about the below:

And there's one more thing that just struck me. If AK and me are the only townies left alive and he is a cop then who performed the role block?

Because

asprin is doctor

I'm not!!![DOUBLEPOST=1605536585][/DOUBLEPOST]I guess that's hammer?

 

[Ashutosh.]

However, if Rudi is not lying then there is a problem. It's not necessary that the mafia and SK have to kill each other, at least not for the mafia since his win condition would be that all townies should be dead

Didn't understand this.
Why won't mafia kill SK?

 

[CerealKiller]

I guess that's hammer?

Lynch count (5 alive, 3 for hammer)
Rudi - 2 (CerealKiller, asprin)
CerealKiller - 1 (Rudi)
Not voting - Ashutosh, zwarrior

 

[asprin]

Why won't mafia kill SK?

Because mafia's priority is to eliminate town. He will win if by start of day there are only two left - him and the SK.

So he won't be wasting his ability during night on a non-townie.

At least that's what I understand...[DOUBLEPOST=1605538227][/DOUBLEPOST]

Lynch count (5 alive, 3 for hammer)
Rudi - 2 (CerealKiller, asprin)
CerealKiller - 1 (Rudi)
Not voting - Ashutosh, zwarrior

So you've no problem in me marking you as mafia? Seems quite odd.

 

[CerealKiller]

So you've no problem in me marking you as mafia? Seems quite odd.

Elaborate why you marked me as Mafia. Otherwise it’s a he-said-she-said

 

[zwarrior]

Lynch - Rudi

@Till Valhalla it's hammer.

I am going to explain below the messages I am quoted.

 

[Ashutosh.]

Because mafia's priority is to eliminate town. He will win if by start of day there are only two left - him and the SK.

But SK will definitely try to kill mafia. So mafia must have to kill SK to save himself.

Doctor, you know what you have to do.

 

[RUDI]

Big mistake guys.