Lassana Dias
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Any more bright people who thinks Bangladesh can WIN the world cup,, what a joke of a cricket team this.. I rate Ireland far ahead then BD
Mar 19 : Bangladesh vs South Africa
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Definitely Ireland is a better team than BD. Considering that they are playing in alien conditions and are not a test playing nation they are much better team than BD.
Luckily for BD the worldcup is in the sub continent, had it been SA or Aus...im sure they would have lost even to Netherlands and be placed at the bottom of the table.
Indeed a Joke of a team.
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bangladesh seem to suffer from that condition constantly where the top order batsmen just don't go in watchful enough. the lower order always has to consolidate.
they've been poor this world cup though, definitely played below themselves.
quite honestly neither ireland, bangladesh or the windies have looked up to scratch here. I don't think ireland are better than BD because they managed to beat holland and then england because of a freak innings.
they probably bat a bit better but their bowling is way behind.
they've been poor this world cup though, definitely played below themselves.
quite honestly neither ireland, bangladesh or the windies have looked up to scratch here. I don't think ireland are better than BD because they managed to beat holland and then england because of a freak innings.
they probably bat a bit better but their bowling is way behind.
Won't be long before Tahir starts picking up wickets so they gotta go for their shots. Terrible batting from the top order, Tamim Iqbal just hasn't got it right after the first game.
And you thought BD could be world champions.
Despite using all the conditions to their advantage BD are not even qualifying for the next round. So long....now let the big boys play...
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Id say that apart from the subcontinet BD bowling is gonna struggle everywhere, unlike Ireland who have a more balanced bowling attack.
This is their third World Cup since they were ridiculously given Test status, in which time they've done next to nothing in Tests or ODIs. They are very much still "shock" winners whenever they do, even against the weakened West Indies side they beat in a Test series. Sure they made the "super 8" last time, principally because the format was set up for upsets which is probably why they revamped.
This kind of humiliation, and the other game where they were out for 58, says they should either be removed from Test and ODI status, or tiers are introduced so they play the sides at the same level as them which opens up chances for other teams to play with the big boys.
What will having just 10 teams next World Cup achieve? The organisers will get the same eight quarter-finalists they want, or whatever they decide in terms of super 6s/8s or maybe just a 1992 round robin with semis. No doubt minnows will come back in 2019 and cricket will still be living in mid C20, maybe with more Test sides but essentially very elitist and by invite only with little appreciation that the gap between the top 6-8 and the rest won't be closed by pretending the rest don't exist.
This kind of humiliation, and the other game where they were out for 58, says they should either be removed from Test and ODI status, or tiers are introduced so they play the sides at the same level as them which opens up chances for other teams to play with the big boys.
What will having just 10 teams next World Cup achieve? The organisers will get the same eight quarter-finalists they want, or whatever they decide in terms of super 6s/8s or maybe just a 1992 round robin with semis. No doubt minnows will come back in 2019 and cricket will still be living in mid C20, maybe with more Test sides but essentially very elitist and by invite only with little appreciation that the gap between the top 6-8 and the rest won't be closed by pretending the rest don't exist.
Dear oh dear, what a humiliating way to exit a World Cup. A win would have put them through, they didn't even bat 30 overs and were all out for 78. Shakib the only deshi batsman to make double figures, scored 38% of their runs, 40% of their boundaries, and took 2/46. Who else did anything? Rubel Hossain with 3/56 was ok, albeit conceding at 7 rpo and you have to wonder why the rest turned up.
Perhaps they should make the next World Cup eight teams, cut to the chase and just start at the QFs
Perhaps they should make the next World Cup eight teams, cut to the chase and just start at the QFs
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all complete knee jerk reaction.
they were given test status on the back of infastructure, public interest and opportunities to promote the sport and grow, if they were an associate they would be the clear front runners but it's not entirely about performances. I get sick of pointing this out.
secondly "Sure they made the "super 8" last time, principally because the format was set up for upsets which is probably why they revamped."
so you acknowledge the ICC revamped because they wanted to give weaker nations less chance and yet seem unprepared to acknowledge this would be why they never made the QFs? obviously the less chance a weaker nation is given the less chance to do well it gets.
this is what has hacked me off with this tournament and it's assessment of the associates. The ICC set this whole thing up so that they would fail and get the QFs they wanted, and then when it happens, everyone puts their hand in the air and cries. people don't know what they want from the associates at the world cup. If the tournament is such that associates can dump big teams out, people cry because associates shouldn't be progressing, and is the tournament is such that associates have little chance, people complain because the associates don't look like qualifying. Most of the associate v associate matches were a lot more competitive than the test v test nations. so their only crime seems to be that they are not playing way above themselves.
and now, why don't you compare bangladesh's progress to the other two lowly test nations.
west indies were smashes by south africa, beaten soundly by england and I'm willing to bet will be smashed by india. they, like bangladesh, managed one win against a test nation.
New zealand were smashed by both australia and sri lanka, like bangladesh, managed one win over a test nation.
the way of painting bangladesh as hopeless losers is just so convenient for some people. over the last two years they've won 25 ODIs to NZs 20 and the windies 12. They've won 2 tests to New Zealands 2 and the west indies 1.
If people want a shake up fine, but when they conveniently forget about how woeful more traditional nations have been then it just looks like they are mired in traditionalism and elitism against new world nations rather than actually care about the game.
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And yeah I still feel that BD dont deserve a place to play with the big boys. They beat WI because it was a bloody second/third string team that they had to play against.
They beat NZ because, NZ have been pathetic of late ..... everybody has been clobbering them & with their poor preparedness against spin they surely had to fall. Heck, right after that NZ tour of BAN, a Second string Indian team (Sachin, Sehwag, Dhoni, Zaheer & Harbhajan didnt play) whitewashed the Kiwis as well. So at best BD are as good as a second string team.
And yeah I still feel that BD dont deserve a place to play with the big boys. They beat WI because it was a bloody second/third string team that they had to play against.
They beat NZ because, NZ have been pathetic of late ..... everybody has been clobbering them & with their poor preparedness against spin they surely had to fall. Heck, right after that NZ tour of BAN, a Second string Indian team (Sachin, Sehwag, Dhoni, Zaheer & Harbhajan didnt play) whitewashed the Kiwis as well. So at best BD are as good as a second string team.
I say, revoke the Test status and let them continue with ODIs. Even though their performance was really really poor ,that too in home conditions.
What we want from the Associates ? No one knows. The 1996 format has expanded from 12 teams [3 Associates] to around 16 teams [7 Associates] in 2007.
The ICC revamped the structure cause they simply want the teams that play the best cricket to play in the final stages. You do not want fluke wins. Else, let us have a World Cup with 32 teams,an all knock-out format. By that logic, BD would have been playing the like of Fiji and Tanzania. For all you know, teams like Italy might have even progressed to the Finals.
The Cricketing world is way different from the Soccer world. The game is different, longer and needs more professionalism whcih BD have been unable to show in their last 10 years in international cricket,despite having pretty decent facilities.
I am not against the Associates participation. But just have a look at the Irish, a team that might have played 1/3rd the umber of matches that BD played between 2007 and 2011. Despite all that, they managed to put in a great performance, why can't BD do the same ?
What we want from the Associates ? No one knows. The 1996 format has expanded from 12 teams [3 Associates] to around 16 teams [7 Associates] in 2007.
The ICC revamped the structure cause they simply want the teams that play the best cricket to play in the final stages. You do not want fluke wins. Else, let us have a World Cup with 32 teams,an all knock-out format. By that logic, BD would have been playing the like of Fiji and Tanzania. For all you know, teams like Italy might have even progressed to the Finals.
The Cricketing world is way different from the Soccer world. The game is different, longer and needs more professionalism whcih BD have been unable to show in their last 10 years in international cricket,despite having pretty decent facilities.
I am not against the Associates participation. But just have a look at the Irish, a team that might have played 1/3rd the umber of matches that BD played between 2007 and 2011. Despite all that, they managed to put in a great performance, why can't BD do the same ?
stefan
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There is no room for him unless you drop morkel, who has also been decent this tournament. There isn't room for both peterson and botha either unless you drop van wyk and let ab keep and with his back that might be a risk, tahir will play.
Good profesional performance from the boys today. Especially happy with how faf played.
And you thought BD could be world champions.
So long....now let the big boys play...
Where did I say BD would win world cup?
Prove it if you can.
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Before the tournament i'd say it would be a risk. But Robin P batting has impressed me TBH & he looks solid enough to bat @ # 7. Thus i think SA can get away with trying to accommodate Tahir/Botha/Robin P in the same XI:
Smith
Amla
Kallis
AB
Dumminy
FaF
Botha
Peterson
Steyn
Morkel
Tahir
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Before the tournament i'd say it would be a risk. But Robin P batting has impressed me TBH & he looks solid enough to bat @ # 7. Thus i think SA can get away with trying to accommodate Tahir/Botha/Robin P in the same XI:
Smith
Amla
Kallis
AB
Dumminy
FaF
Botha
Peterson
Steyn
Morkel
Tahir
