simsanta123
Club Cricketer
If you admit you were soft-claiming, then that kind of nullifies the effect of it, right?
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If you admit you were soft-claiming, then that kind of nullifies the effect of it, right?
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
Not if I keep saying I'm soft claiming and keep saying I'm not. Depends really doesn't. As I made clear fairly early on (and also did so first game) as vanilla I'm more than happy to be night killed if it gives the rest of town power players a chance to work their magic 
Anything that makes things trickier for the mafia works for me.
Anything that makes things trickier for the mafia works for me.
Sedition
Panel of Selectors
The cop should have claimed first and allowed me to slip through the shadows and make it to tomorrow with enough suspicion on me. Once I've claimed, the cop should not also claim.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
Not if I keep saying I'm soft claiming and keep saying I'm not. Depends really doesn't. As I made clear fairly early on (and also did so first game) as vanilla I'm more than happy to be night killed if it gives the rest of town power players a chance to work their magic
Although useful if Sedition blocks me and the mafia think I'm doc, which they might, since I am, after protecting Hedger first night. Although, I might be lying again. I'm well passed double bluff now
I would say it's interesting that Manly is at 3 lynches and that neither Sedition or Sim are prepared to hammer. If he is mafia, then perhaps one of them is his partner, if he isn't, then surely mafia must be part of the group that have already voted. Which I think is me, Hedger and Barmy. With Aditya the only one not to have been seen in this time, he could be I suppose, but he's really given me town vibes this time for some reason.
Sedition
Panel of Selectors
I'm not going to hammer the lynch since I think there's still info to be gained. Manly seems a good candidate for a cop investigation in my book.
Anyway, if we mislynch today and 2 mafia remain, I will just have to target whoever I think will message the kill, and if it fails, I die and we only get info from the cop. If it succeeds, then we have something extra.
If we lynch a mafia today, then I will target Puddleduck. If the night kill goes through, Puddleduck's cleared, if it doesn't, it means PD is either mafia or they tried to frame him, and the cop searches someone other than PD for a result.
Anyway, if we mislynch today and 2 mafia remain, I will just have to target whoever I think will message the kill, and if it fails, I die and we only get info from the cop. If it succeeds, then we have something extra.
If we lynch a mafia today, then I will target Puddleduck. If the night kill goes through, Puddleduck's cleared, if it doesn't, it means PD is either mafia or they tried to frame him, and the cop searches someone other than PD for a result.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
Each time I think I'm figuring it out, I end up stuck again trying to work out if I even know what roles are in this game! It seems we might not actually have a doc or cop if you're a jailbreaker? Or maybe we have all 3? If we have all 3, then the cop needed to claim with who they investigated but haven't done. Perhaps suspicious that a mafia member is trying to get them out in the open? So in the end we have Sedition as the only power role claimer, he seems fairly legit, but his tactics have been quite scummy.
Sod it, time to bail out again and see what people with more experience of these games end up saying. Think we're 1 lynch away from a hammer anyway? I find it strange that Manly has lynched Sedition, yet Sedition still refuses to hammer him. Especially since with your role claim Manly has still been keen to lynch you. That said, you could be right, and leaving it for Adi/Sim to make the last move could give us more information than you just ending it now. I'm still not 100% on you Sedition, but I am getting there
Sod it, time to bail out again and see what people with more experience of these games end up saying. Think we're 1 lynch away from a hammer anyway? I find it strange that Manly has lynched Sedition, yet Sedition still refuses to hammer him. Especially since with your role claim Manly has still been keen to lynch you. That said, you could be right, and leaving it for Adi/Sim to make the last move could give us more information than you just ending it now. I'm still not 100% on you Sedition, but I am getting there
Sedition
Panel of Selectors
I don't think we'd have a doc aswell as Jailkeeper. My role is similar to that of a Paranoid Doctor. We may not even have a cop, but given the write-up, it seems multiple roles failed, so we must have something else. Could be Jailkeeper/cop, JK/doc (unlikely imo) or JK/cop variation.
If the cop had claimed and let the roleblocker remain silent, I feel we would have been in a much better position. I think whoever it is has a decent idea about Hedger's alignment though, since no result could mean I stopped Hedger being investigated, or a town result would mean he's mafia and that's why only one result was "correct".
If the cop had claimed and let the roleblocker remain silent, I feel we would have been in a much better position. I think whoever it is has a decent idea about Hedger's alignment though, since no result could mean I stopped Hedger being investigated, or a town result would mean he's mafia and that's why only one result was "correct".
hedger_14
ICC Chairman
Remember that this isn't lylo so it isn't in the best interests of the mafia to hammer a townie without hearing a defence. But I think Manly is maf anyway.
And yes, I thought you were doc puddle who saved barmy, which is why I was leaning town on both of you, especially as barmy was my town read. Either that or you had tried to kill him and you planned on claiming doc. But now that I think the mafia tried to kill me, I don't know whether you're bluffing and I hope the mafia think the same and are trying to second guess.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
Ok the not hammering thing makes sense, cheers.
Yeah as long as they're not sure, that's good enough for me... for now... if I'm still alive tomorrow I'll reveal what I may know... which isn't much at the moment but might be a lot more by tomorrow.
This game is quite the education for me, classic mafia is much easier, but this is good fun, I'm still not really sure about anything whilst in both those games I had mafia picked out almost within the first day.
Yeah as long as they're not sure, that's good enough for me... for now... if I'm still alive tomorrow I'll reveal what I may know... which isn't much at the moment but might be a lot more by tomorrow.
This game is quite the education for me, classic mafia is much easier, but this is good fun, I'm still not really sure about anything whilst in both those games I had mafia picked out almost within the first day.
Aditya
ICC Board Member
Hang on guys, don't hammer him just yet. I'm going through the thread, too much discussion to read.
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Alright, so Manly says that he is a vanilla townie? He's lying. I'm the vanilla townie, I've been hiding this just so in case a mafia role claims, he will have the option of claiming vanilla townie and that's when I'd counter claim. I'm also ready to believe Sedition and that's where this lynch will come in handy. Obviously if he's telling the truth, Manly should be mafia because I don't think that User by any chance can have two vanilla's in a game. So, shall I hammer him?
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Alright, so Manly says that he is a vanilla townie? He's lying. I'm the vanilla townie, I've been hiding this just so in case a mafia role claims, he will have the option of claiming vanilla townie and that's when I'd counter claim. I'm also ready to believe Sedition and that's where this lynch will come in handy. Obviously if he's telling the truth, Manly should be mafia because I don't think that User by any chance can have two vanilla's in a game. So, shall I hammer him?
hedger_14
ICC Chairman
lol, Aditya, that's awkward cause I also claimed vanilla but I'm pretty sure there's only going to be two vanilla's at max.
Aditya
ICC Board Member
I didn't read the post where you claimed vanilla? I'm not sure, User will actually include two vanilla's in this games but then again, at the starting of the game User did mention in the very first post that "This isn't an open setup game (you don't know which roles are there)."
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
I think this makes you look a bit dodgy Adi... the fact that you think Manly is lying but didn't put the hammer down combined with the fact you think there can only be one vanilla townie? Why could there not be two, or even three? I'm genuinely interested because I've been working off the assumption there are 2 and potentially 3 townies so far
Aditya
ICC Board Member
Look, this game is just not about me. What if Hedger is lying and Manly is vanilla but not Hedger. We need to be careful while going along with such lynches. The fact is also that, how am I cleared? None of the three are cleared so it's important that the suggestions of others is taking under consideration and then we go for the hammer, that's what I did. It's the most safest bet, we don't want to lynch a townie/vanilla. It's the mafia's that we need to lynch. Out of the three, Manly has been most inactive and the most suspicious so I'd rather lynch him than someone like Hegder and he already has 3 lynches on him so that doesn't go in his favor.
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