Mini Mafia - Town wins!

[barmyarmy]

Right it's that point in the game where I'll post some random thoughts

Aditya - always hard to tell but not in a always looks town way . Someone I'm always watching
Sedition - I believe his claim and don't think he's being a clever mafia (not least because it fits with the write-up). There isn't normally a mafia jailkeeper unless there is a SK.
Hedger_14 - has given me pro-town vibes throughout hence I want some explanation of why there was no kill on the night he was blocked.
Simsanta - hasn't really contributed anything imo. Making allowances for newer players can get you into trouble if it turns out that they're mafia. Needs to help the town cause more otherwise he might as well be lynched off anyway.
Manly - I get the feeling he was considering a more outlandish claim and changed his mind. Could easily be a mafia trying to find a good cover-story.
Puddleduck - has generally given me a town read but a few comments have tripped my scum radar. Has emphasised his town-ness ("would be nice to be mafia for a change") and positioned himself as the "one confirmed townie" a little too.
I also get suspicious when people agree with me too much or are too deferential (see my previous games for this!) so I've got PD as a dark horse (dark red).

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This is getting interesting.

*grabs popcorn*

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*doesn't offer Colin any*

Right, I'm killing you tonight. Oh wait...

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Are you referring to the possibility that the cop also investigated him?

Yes. I don't think hedger is the cop.

 

[puddleduck]

Oh, WIFOM?

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I much prefer the far shorter and easier to roll off the tongue French translation - LGCCMQLSVDMVEDJCLREHLBADTLIQAOECDL

Haha (yeah I looked it up).

You say that Barmy, and fair enough, but I would suggest that I've actually deferred to you once the roles started being things I hadn't head of, up until that point I was quite happily suspicious of you. You are actually the only person I have as confirmed town at the moment, so I accept that in your eyes I could well be dodgy as I doubt I have given you the same confidence.

I'd like to hear what Hedger has to say now things have begun to build on him, but I can't help but end up back at Manly as the only person I can safely say I've been continually suspicious of. From that fact I have not hidden.

 

[barmyarmy]

@PD - basically I'm suspicious of everyone and giving myself wiggleroom so I can quote that post at endgame as an example of how I had it all worked out. You can pretty much quote any two players and I've said they're probably mafia

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Incidentally I will soon have some wine in front of me (or possibly a gin...)

 

[puddleduck]

Gutted I've got my final essay due in on Monday, so no drinks until then. Would love a nice glass of red right now. Probably a Rioja. Yum.

I would suggest if we go through with my Manly plan and we're wrong, we just lynch me for being incompetent next. One more question, if we get the Godfather, is it game over straight away (assuming there is one)? In that sense could we afford to just take out Hedger and the mislynch wouldn't be costly, but the game could be won?

 

[Manly]

Just sailed past 3000 posts, by the way.

In any case, I'm off down the pub, not drinking so will be back in decent-ish time.

 

[Sedition]

I guess I need to explain my strategy a bit since I've landed myself under a massive amount of suspicion.

Since my intention as a vanilla townie last game was to put a target on my head on D1 by finding a reason to accuse everyone (mafia have selective memory sometimes), I felt as a PR this game, I had to try to match that otherwise the mafia would be suspicious.

My shots at barmy weren't anything sinister, my intention was to get him to post some noob advice, and when it developed the way it did, I was happy getting suspicion my way since it helps me make it through the night, and is beneficial to barmy for the same reason.

Today I was hoping for a cop claim, or at least a hint from someone that they were the cop, but I didn't see anything. With everyone still being pretty confused, and I wasn't sure if Manly would show up, it seemed the appropriate time to claim and shed some light. May have screwed up, but if the cop claimed instead, we'd be sitting pretty.

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And I searched out info on the Jailkeeper role the last few days, but I'm not sure on this: If there's two mafia and I target one of them, are they both blocked from killing, or do I have to pick the one who sent the kill message?

 

[Manly]

Lynch: Sedition - I honestly don't think there's two vanilla townies in this game.

 

[barmyarmy]

Gutted I've got my final essay due in on Monday, so no drinks until then. Would love a nice glass of red right now. Probably a Rioja. Yum.

I would suggest if we go through with my Manly plan and we're wrong, we just lynch me for being incompetent next. One more question, if we get the Godfather, is it game over straight away (assuming there is one)? In that sense could we afford to just take out Hedger and the mislynch wouldn't be costly, but the game could be won?

That's a very strange thing to post. If we lynch him and he's town and then lynch you and you're town we lose.
Sounds like you're a bit keen to get him lynched to me.

To answer your second point you have to kill all the mafia players (as your win condition would tell you if you were town )

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And I searched out info on the Jailkeeper role the last few days, but I'm not sure on this: If there's two mafia and I target one of them, are they both blocked from killing, or do I have to pick the one who sent the kill message?

You have to block the killer.

 

[puddleduck]

Just sailed past 3000 posts, by the way.

In any case, I'm off down the pub, not drinking so will be back in decent-ish time.

Let's lynch him while he's at the pub I'm joking! Hedger really needs to post now to shed some further light on it all.

I just can't get away from Hedger and Manly as one of the mafia. Not ruling out Sedition either, although him knowing more than he should have early on has been sort of explained by him being jailkeeper. I do agree with Barmy as I suggested in an earlier analysis, that the write up suggest that Hedger is mafia if he is indeed who Sedition roleblocked.

Always keep coming back to Manly's rubbish attempted claim, my calling him up on it, and his subsequent returning back to vanilla town. Also as a vanilla town, he's not really done much to analyze or figure things out, almost as if he already knows and doesn't need to. Too watchful for someone who apparently has no role to execute. Also a vanilla town who isn't prepared to take a lynch as a decoy for a cop/doc is just as dangerous surely? Well I think I've essentially reached the end of my logical path and until someone like Hedger posts I can't help but feel Manly is the most sensible target, specifically so a cop can potentially investigate Hedger or Sedition (or me, I don't mind being confirmed as the doc ... or do I ... or am I bluffing etc... ). If we hit Manly and it's wrong, he's only vanilla town and you can all just straight up lynch me for being a fool more than anything else. However at that point, I feel (almost certainly after the night roles) we'll know for sure who to lynch off and potentially have the game won by the next day?

Right that'll do me for a bit (he says before posting in 5 minutes when someone else posts ). I think I need to break my brain off this as I'm clearly stuck down one path at the moment.

 

[barmyarmy]

Lynch: Sedition - I honestly don't think there's two vanilla townies in this game.

This is very scummy. First of all what does vanilla townies have to do with it and second why are you lynching off what is potentially a town power-role?

Lynch: Manly
Reason: looks mafia to me.

 

[puddleduck]

I agree, don't want to give potential mafia hammer opportunity though. So I will definitely be ready to lynch this if someone else agrees!

Yeah sorry Colin, that does read really dodgy now you've highlighted it. I am of course joking that we lynch me for being an idiot I understand that all mafia have to die, I'm just still baffled by the godfather thing? Does it pass over then? I only saw it used in your massive Godfather mafia game, and in that there were all sorts of permutations

 

[Sedition]

There's far too much information to still be gained before putting lynches down. Manly's looking pretty dodgy, so if we decide to lynch him, we do it after figuring out all the what if's and who's targetting who overnight.

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Since if Manly is mafia and we lynch him, then there should only be 1 mafia left. In that case I tell everyone who I'm targetting and based on whether the kill is successful or not, we will know if they're clean.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

I'm just still baffled by the godfather thing?

Godfather isn't a role, it's just a title. Depending on the how the mod designs the game, it is either the Godfather who has to send the kill PM, or he can ask one of his fellow team-mates to do it. The one who sends the PM is the one who performs the kill.

Again, depending on how the mod designs it, the Godfather title may have some additional perks, such as immunity or fooling the cop. Normally, once the Godfather has died, the title is passed on to someone else, but not the perks.

 

[Sedition]

You guys are going to have to wait anyways though, this Test match isn't exciting enough to keep me up and I doubt Hedger will be here anytime soon. The mafia already know if he's the cop or one of them, so we can only wait for his claim and if no counter claim comes, we can plan our targets and then lynch Manly or whoever and re-evaluate on day 3 with new info.

 

[puddleduck]

Ah k, that makes more sense cheers dude I guess the issue is it was introduced into this game, but we don't even know if there is one, other than User's writeup hinting to the more experienced players (and bizarely Sedition) that it might mean Godfather role.

Lynch Papa Smurf... why not, he's not from 'round here