Mini Mafia - Town wins!

[Sedition]

My claim is true, all my reasoning may not be. Given Hedger's reaction, I'm not so sure anymore. One of us will likely die tonight unless I block the mafia, so where we go from here I don't know.

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or is calling someone retarded normal as I final attempt to not get lynched?

 

[Manly]

My claim is true, all my reasoning may not be. Given Hedger's reaction, I'm not so sure anymore. One of us will likely die tonight unless I block the mafia, so where we go from here I don't know.

Say whaaaaaaaaaaat?!


FoS: Sedition until he explains what the hell he means.

 

[Sedition]

My claim about being Jailkeeper (for the town) is true, but I may be wrong on Hedger being mafia if he's the cop and I blocked his role whilst also protecting him.

Nothing he's said led me to believe he's the cop though, so I can only assume he's mafia and I blocked him.

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I should've said my reasoning may not be accurate, not that it might not be true. Poor choice of wording on my part and comes from not being able to edit posts

 

[puddleduck]

So would I be right in thinking Hedger thinks Manly is cop, Sedition thinks Hedger might be cop, and despite potentially claiming if he hit scum to put us in an awesome position, we have had nothing from the cop? Excellent, this game is confusing I also don't know if Manly and Sedition are now just trying to look contrary to each other with some weak fos'ing or are generally opposed.

There seems to me, and this about the only thing I'm currently sure of, that there are too many people implying they are vanilla town to add up from where I am sat... I would maybe even suggest the ones claiming vanilla town are maybe the dodgiest seeing as how both myself and Hedger have tried to soft-claim/confused the mafia a bit. Dammit Barmy, what on earth is going on haha. Jailbreaker? Godfathers? Bah, you could all be lying knowing that I would have no idea if any of you are telling the truth and can't do anything about it... not ruling out that I'm doctor mind, seeing as I don't want the cop getting killed tonight!

 

[Manly]

So it's basically a shoot-out between Sedition and hedger now then?

 

[Sedition]

I honestly have no idea if there's a Godfather, but knowing my role was kind of exotic, it came to me for some reason. I'm about 99% Hedger's mafia (if not GF, then he submitted the kill I guess?) and 1% that he's cop.

 

[barmyarmy]

I'd like to see a claim from hedger tbh. Will post some more thoughts in a minute.

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Basically situation is mafia missed their kill; hedger was blocked. Therefore he needs to claim.

 

[puddleduck]

Hmm I think Sedition has known more than he should from the start and has done some research into roles and now is claiming one. He could of course be jailbreaker though, and then we really can't afford to lynch him.

What I am finding odd is how many people are giving me town reads (I guess there are more experienced players in this game than the last 2) but too many people seem like vanilla townies, and that worries me a bit. As one of them is probably the other mafia.

Also what if neither Hedger or Sedition or mafia? But cop and jailbreaker? If that is the case, we are in fact letting both mafia slip away and they must (from my point of view) exist within Manly, Barmy, Adi and Sim. Of those the only one I've found dodgy was Manly, but he seems more town with each post.

I think I could lynch either Sedition, Hedger or Manly with any kind of confidence at the moment, at least by the end of the night I'd either have a very good idea of who is actually who, or would be dead and not care anymore

 

[Sedition]

I don't think we'll hear from Hedger since it's getting late here. If he claims cop and no one counter claims, then I think we can proceed. If we're both PR's then it's not ideal that we've been outted, but we can still plan and the mafia needs to kill us sooner rather than later. I'm rather nervous that Aditya and Sim are MIA.

 

[barmyarmy]

My role is really terrible. (Mod: Can we roleclaim?) I will have no impact on the game whatsoever.

That seems a strange thing to say for vanilla. Terrible would be miller, hated townie, priest etc but not vanilla.

My FOS is on hedger and Manly at present.

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Just to add that the bold part of that post is Manly's formatting not mine.

 

[puddleduck]

The thing is, having Hedger outed would be a disaster? Surely there is a possibility that if he is cop, and that having roleblocked him last night, you may now not be able to protect him tonight? If that is the case, and you can't, we will be losing the cop without doubt. Hedger has been smart to push suspicion away from himself if he is cop, because we will need him alive. If he's night killed as cop, the roleblocker can't save him cos he already has (and potentially the doctor already did as well? Or did I... or am I etc) If you and the doc can't save him tonight due to not being to act on successive nights, then he'd be doomed. Although if he is vanilla town as he has sort of claimed, then I suppose it has saved the real cop and he can have figured out whether Sedition/Manly/Barmy/Myself/Sim/Adi are mafia or town.

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Finally Barmy! I've said that was dodgy from Manly all along, I feel User's clue referred to him and his claim now essentially is crap. Nothing wrong with being vanilla town dammit, and like Aditya last time, I feel Manly is describing it as crap precisely because he isn't one. Pretty big guesswork, but what do you think about my thoughts on lynching Manly of the three that I have suspicions about just because as the only one without a link to a power role, he would also be the smallest loss if we mislynch? I'm still not sure on all this (how many times have I posted that today ha) but to me Manly seems minimal risk with potentially a big reward and if he turns up town and with a potential night time success from Cop we'd be in a good position... I am struggling to think this all through just because I'm not constantly worried there's some kind of weird roles that change everything

 

[Manly]

That seems a strange thing to say for vanilla. Terrible would be miller, hated townie, priest etc but not vanilla.

My FOS is on hedger and Manly at present.

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Just to add that the bold part of that post is Manly's formatting not mine.

I mean it's crap in the sense that I'd like some sort of power role for once. I very rarely get anything worth having, even in your game it turned out my role was absolutely jack.. (pun)

 

[barmyarmy]

Are there any scenarios whereby both sedition and hedger are town? Don't want to give a free kill to the mafia here.

I posed this earlier and, without giving hedger a way out within him claiming, we need to remember that jailkeeper both roleblocks and protects.
Therefore hedger is just as likely to have been the mafias target for death as he was to be the killer.
Certainly if he was targeted by the jailkeeper, the cop and the mafia killer it explains why one role was successful and two failed.

Equally though that also works for him as mafia killer (jailkeep succeeds, kill fails, investigate fails).

 

[Papa_Smurf]

This is getting interesting.

*grabs popcorn*

...

*doesn't offer Colin any*

 

[simsanta123]

Wow. This game moves fast.
Interesting claim from Sedition. Going over it, it seems..plausible.

So, if we assume both Hedger and Sedition are townies and Hedger is a cop, even though he has seemed to deny it. Then the mafia and Sedition must have targetted him. I feel, however, there would have been somebody else also targetting him, because, N1 report said something about somebody was popular, which leads me to believe a 3rd party/person also must have chosen Hedger.
3 roles choosing a single person would be noteworthy and would also make sense, since by Hedger's own admission he soft-claimed cop to try and draw the attacks towards him.

Which brings me to the point that Hedger himself has denied being a cop. If he is not the cop, then either one of them (Sedition/Hedger) is mafia, right?

A lot would depend if Hedger claims, but somehow I've found Sedition a bit jumpy tbh.

He did get a bit annoyed when repeatedly attacked on the start of D2 by Hedger and barmyarmy.

Manly's post could be interpreted two ways. He could be a vanilla townie, but somehow a reluctance to participate in the discussion and go along with the flow, as he has said he would do, is the sort of thing the mafia like to do.

But then, mafia won't openly say that, would they?
Oh, WIFOM?

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Equally though that also works for him as mafia killer (jailkeep succeeds, kill fails, investigate fails).

Are you referring to the possibility that the cop also investigated him?