Mini Mafia - Town wins!

[Sedition]

Good thing I checked the thread before leaving this morning Thanks Aditya and Sim for your thoughts on everyone. I think I'm convinced that targeting barmy isn't necessarily the best idea if we lynched a mafia today. If he's mafia then you've probably just gotta say well played so far champ.

Not really sure what to make of Sim's claim, but there's not too many innocent roles left tbh and both he and Manly look pretty dodgy. Manly's just seemed uninterested for most of the game and not paying a great deal of attention, hence his lynch on me, could be because he's a vanilla town, but that's not a good enough excuse.

I think whether we lynch Sim or Manly, we've probably got a mafia, so I'm just gonna jailkeep the one we don't lynch. Officially.. unless I post otherwise later

 

[Sedition]

Honestly, I think we lynch Manly and roleblock/protect Sim.

If Sim is vig, I don't think we need him nightkilling tonight and he'll be free to do so tomorrow night if his claim is true. If he's SK, we also don't want him getting a kill along with a mafia kill, so blocking him seems beneficial. Mafia should target me and then I guess the rest is up to you

 

[puddleduck]

FFS! Deleted my post again

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Ok, what I was trying to say before I started swearing at my laptops touchpad that I never use and only ever pisses me off

Firstly you should ban Sim for confusing us. I'm clearly better looking, more intelligent and much more interesting, and as such it's plainly insulting to me, and also gives you false hope that you could be me. Just not cricket. (heh loves you really )

Then I said, that I tried looking online at other games for similar setups and learnt that basically this game gets ridiculously complicated in terms of roles haha So that was basically useless. However I then had a thought (sat down for a bit to recover) and thought what if Sim did actually try to kill Hedger first night and was roleblocked by your JailKEEPER? That now he is coming 'clean' because he can't use his kill tonight and will essentially have impunity to night kill people because we suspect he's aiming for a town win? When in reality, he's actual a silent killer waiting to get the win?

Essentially I think if we're lynching Manly and he's mafia, then maybe using your power on Sim is a good idea. Obviously the mafia could kill you providing you don't get a doc save though and it is possible Sim is final mafia seeing as he still didn't actually lynch the main suspect? His role claim would have allowed him to claim he's not night killing, but then when a kill occurs he puts it down to mafia? By making up a night killer with no kills so far, if one kill occurred he'd have been in the clear? Gonna just post this now, then read it again and see what I want to add to it in another post since I feckin' deleted it again and I'm getting annoyed now haha

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Nope last bit makes no sense haha. Right that was all a lot longer when I first typed it

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That last bit ends up mixing my two theories to do with whether Manly was mafia or not after the lynch. It's essentially gibberish, I'll try and resort it on my next procrastination from my essay

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Basically if Manly is mafia, then definitely role block Sim. However, if he isn't original plan has to be just roleblock whoever you think might be mafia, as if there is no doc you'll be dead otherwise. For that part, don't give too many reads either, so the mafia can't try and pre-empt you? Especially because if you die, it won't matter, but if you live, you can tell us a lot. Because they might not believe me that I'm not doctor, as if they do try and kill you and I block it they have a wasted night so might go after someone else like me, in which case we're in a much better position with you still alive tomorrow than me as you'll be able to potentially block the mafia with a much better idea as to who is left. I think that makes sense

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I am thinking though... the three roles from the first night... what if Sim's silent killer failed, the mafia hit failed, and you succeeded... It kind of makes sense, especially with the fact no one seems like the cop... hmm

 

[Sedition]

Yep, that all follows with my line of thought. I could be missing scenarios, but yeah without knowing the roles, it's freaking hard What's your role btw barmy since I don't think you claimed yet. Vanilla?

Anyway the general consensus seems to be that Sim and Manly are dodgy and given Sim's claim, I would prefer to RB him whilst lynching Manly.

 

[puddleduck]

I can't even remember how many lynches are on who now To be fair I have 7 hours to do another 2,500 words, my brain is in meltdown.

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I'd rather Barmy didn't claim if my hunch is right. He can claim later on considering the amount of vanilla claims so far

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My hunch is Barmy is Easter Bunny. He has the power to lay chocolate eggs and when you kill him he turns out to be fictional and you go insane.

(wouldn't be surprised heh, seriously looking online there's so many variants and roles in this game!)

 

[Sedition]

Lol yeah, I started looking at the different open setups once I got my role, which is why I was so curious about what others thought

Still 3 votes each on Sim and Manly I think. Barmy might be ready to lynch Manly now that the jailkeeping target is Sim, put an end to this incredibly long day already

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Good luck with the essay too man, but surely this is more important

 

[puddleduck]

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[/COLOR]Good luck with the essay too man, but surely this is more important

Why do you think I still have so many words to write haha

 

[simsanta123]

Hmm I'm also thinking that if Sedition role blocked you and you are a town aligned vigilante, that if we hit mafia tonight, surely there is some kind of course of action tomorrow that allows you to feasibly hit the final mafia member after claiming?

If Sim is vig, I don't think we need him nightkilling tonight and he'll be free to do so tomorrow night if his claim is true. If he's SK, we also don't want him getting a kill along with a mafia kill, so blocking him seems beneficial. Mafia should target me and then I guess the rest is up to you

I am fine with getting blocked if it clears things up. .Even without being blocked, I am not very sure I should kill today, so if blocking me is beneficial in the context of the game, so be it. My only doubt is suppose Sedition blocks me. Then if he is targetted by mafia, would their kill go first rendering his jailkeeping useless? Because then we would end up without gaining much advantage. Can the mod clarify this or would we have to figure this out on our own? Somebody here (Barmy ) with any idea how the night actions take place?

OR if you feel that I might be mafia simply wanting to know this, keep it to yourself and just give us the go-ahead so to speak.

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I am thinking though... the three roles from the first night... what if Sim's silent killer failed, the mafia hit failed, and you succeeded... It kind of makes sense, especially with the fact no one seems like the cop... hmm

Try to think from a Serial Killer's perspective. If I were one, I would have definitely gone for barmy seeing he is helping the town so much and would have been good for a 3rd party to see the town in disarray.

Ofcourse, you could apply WIFOM and argue to the contrary but just give it a thought. I deliberately chose to not kill anyone on N1 and might not do so even tonight.(whether I'm roleblocked or not). The only use of my role I see is if I survive (which reminds me I could be a potential maf target) and then later on Day3 we see 2 scummy looking people, we lynch one and kill the other. (This is assuming Manly is a mafia.)

 

[puddleduck]

Thing is if he's blocking you and your mafia, there's a couple of ways it works. One - we lynch Manly, he's mafia. Sedition blocks you, there's no night kill, you're probably mafia.

Two - We lynch Manly, he's not mafia. Sedition blocks you, the mafia are godfather/killer combo, you are killer, no night death.

Three - We lync... he's not mafia. Sedition blah you, the mafia are a pair of some kind whereby either submits the kill, Sedition dies.

Four - We lynch Manly.. he's etc... You're actually the vigilante, you're definitely alive tomorrow, and can be used to hopefully target whichever mafia member isn't lynched off....

Now here's where I get confused. What happens if you target a mafia member and they target you? Who dies first? Who takes precedence? Because, if it's you, you're a very powerful role, if you both die, also still powerful, but if you die and they live... then I suspect without a doctor around to make sure you and Sedition make it through consecutive nights your revealing of role has made you essentially useless?

Hmm, I may be leaning towards Barmy's reasoning that there is more probability of a silent killer than a vigilante. Although I really am not sure at the moment. With a doc, I think this game is in the bag, because they can protect Sedition and then you on consecutive nights and town is in a very strong position even with a mislynch. With a cop, by tomorrow we could feasibly know a lot if they investigate successfully. I guess I'm trying to think in terms of how User would balance such a game, but the fact two roles have been introduced and that a new way of the mafia possibly running has been mentioned, I just don't know. If User extends this, I'll probably have a proper read through in about 10 hours after I've handed this in and cracked open the bottle of Rioja I've been saving.

Literally. Can't. Wait. ... must resist... opening .... it now....

 

[Gaurav_7]

Vote count

Manly (3) - PD, Hedger, Sedition
Sim (2) - Colin, Adi

4 needed for a lynch

Final extension of 24 hours.

 

[puddleduck]

Vote count


Final extension of 24 hours.

Bless ya Any confirmation on what happens if a dual killing occurs? I realise people could be lying about their roles, so the answer can be a no, or as vague as you want

 

[Gaurav_7]

mafia shots act before vigilante shots

This is how it is done basically.

 

[Aditya]

Sim's claim makes the game more confusing, as if it already wasn't. Vigilante is a very powerful role and so is Jail Keeper, two such powerful roles in one game on the town side is way too strong and if Sim is indeed telling the truth, then surely the town is very powerful. We've got so far, 3 vanilla's, 1 jail keeper, 1 vigilante and that in total is 5 players. Leaving Puddleduck and Colin apart, which in total will make 7 players. One of the above 5 are lying but if not, then Puddleduck and Colin are mafia and if that happens I'm never playing with you guys again. Out of the above 5, Sedition is cleared for me due to his activity and his role claim is solid too so for that he is obviously cleared. Hedger, well not cleared but hasn't been scummy and I for now, am not suspicious of him. That leaves us with Manly, Sim and me. Sim's role claim is confusing but I don't think we can lynch him just yet because if he is telling the truth and is lynched, we'll be in deep trouble so jail keeping him will be the best idea. It comes down to Manly and me now and for me, it's clearly Manly for me but I don't know about others. Puddleduck and Colin haven't role claimed but haven't looked suspicious either so Manly it is then for me.

Now, if we indeed lynch Manly and he is vanilla. Then believe me you, Manly must be awarded with the most suspicious player award. On a serious note, once he is lynched and comes up vanilla, then that leaves us with Hedger and me as the other two vanilla's with one vigilante (not cleared), Sedition as jail keeper and two players who haven't role claimed (Puddleduck and Barmyarmy) so it will confuse the things further but between all of us lynching Manly is the safest bet. He is a vanilla townie who has not helped the town at all and so for that, he is the safest bet to lynch among the other members.

I can hammer him, if you guys agree with my above points.

 

[puddleduck]

Cheers dude Also I'm guessing then that if a blocker was blocking someone who attempts a kill, and the blocker themselves was killed, that the blocked persons action would go through?

I think after this game, I should be ready to run one next, but I'll definitely stick to the standard setups we had before

Edit: this post is obviously directed at User.

 

[Aditya]

How is it that whenever I visit this thread the last post is from Puddleduck?