MS Dhoni-Hack or Star?
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I think that even if Dhoni is not as great as Gilchirst, and EVEN i dont think he will be as great as Gilly, but he is a great player. He can not only attack but he can also adapt to the situation and play defensively, but then there is the time when he looses concentration but that can be worked on. His keeping has improved from the time he made his debut. Infact keeping to Kumble and Bajji is hard and he does that really well espically to the ball that goes down the leg he is able to get to it.
DHONI is a star and he can become an even better star with experience
DHONI is a star and he can become an even better star with experience
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Dhoni should be India's domestic keeper. He has shown that he can blast the opposition on good tracks and we should certainly utilize that! Away, he has shown that he is willing to learn and this will, I believe, propel him to being India's top-choice keeper for a few years, at the least.
As for his injury-claim, I can see where he is coming from. He doesn't want to risk the match by a substandard performance, and with a perfectly adept alternative keeper in the squad, why should he do that? He has probably been given the nod of confidence in the larger scale, by the selectors, so that he can take the time off to recover from this injury without needing to think that he is being replaced
As for the troll, do shut up and take your sorrows back to the Afridi thread.
As for his injury-claim, I can see where he is coming from. He doesn't want to risk the match by a substandard performance, and with a perfectly adept alternative keeper in the squad, why should he do that? He has probably been given the nod of confidence in the larger scale, by the selectors, so that he can take the time off to recover from this injury without needing to think that he is being replaced
As for the troll, do shut up and take your sorrows back to the Afridi thread.
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Afridi rules! 
I don't really rate Dhoni's batting to be honest. He's improving as a wicketkeeper as far as I can tell. Comparing him to Gilly is ludicrous IMO. Gilchrist has the temperament needed to bat for ages in test matches, and kick it up a notch when needed. His average along with his career S/R is witness to his greatness. The best wicket keeper/batsman the world has ever seen. The only one who comes close out of the current keepers is Sangakarra.
EDIT: Forgot about Andy Flower.
I don't really rate Dhoni's batting to be honest. He's improving as a wicketkeeper as far as I can tell. Comparing him to Gilly is ludicrous IMO. Gilchrist has the temperament needed to bat for ages in test matches, and kick it up a notch when needed. His average along with his career S/R is witness to his greatness. The best wicket keeper/batsman the world has ever seen. The only one who comes close out of the current keepers is Sangakarra.
EDIT: Forgot about Andy Flower.
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Alright big guy- Do you feel good after calling me that? Has it made any significant difference to your life? Because it hasn't to mine- I don't sit in front of a PC all day and try undermining a guy who lives thousands of miles away from me.sohummisra said:
Was there even any need for you to make that comment after andrew said that the discussion was over? Have you managed to justify some hidden agenda of your's? You Indians do amuse me sometimes- If only you had the balls to say something like that to another's face.
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to be honest the key to dhonis wicket is chest high bowling close to off stump
every team has him worked out now and hes flopped for past 7-8 months now
and regarding afridi
he should be given the licence and has been given the license to attack how he wants
he has much betetr batsmen to back him up and he should come in at number 8
thats his best spot
why play a spinner who cant bat(rehman) when you can play a batsman who can bowl spin(afridi)?
every team has him worked out now and hes flopped for past 7-8 months now
and regarding afridi
he should be given the licence and has been given the license to attack how he wants
he has much betetr batsmen to back him up and he should come in at number 8
thats his best spot
why play a spinner who cant bat(rehman) when you can play a batsman who can bowl spin(afridi)?
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The Blazer
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And for all those idiots who gave me negative reps, grow up will you?
What exactly did I do to have my reputation take a bashing other than criticize an Indian player. Some of you need to learn how to debate.
And then they wonder why I say some people here are anti-Pakistani.
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What exactly did I do to have my reputation take a bashing other than criticize an Indian player. Some of you need to learn how to debate.
And then they wonder why I say some people here are anti-Pakistani.
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Because the spinner who can't bat takes wickets and doesn't give away many runs and as we know can defend. The other spinner who can occasionally bat is not good enough at the moment to be in the team.gambino said:
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lets take this to the afridi thread
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Dhoni is still starting out and on his day he can take an attack apart but to consider him along with gilchrist or to a lesser extent sangakkara is not on i reckon. Also take into consideration those two guys have to keep to the warnie and murali and also make big runs not easy.
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gambino said:
How can you say he flopped when he was the higest scorer for india in south africa and he bats at no 7 in odi in champions trophy he was not utilized well till he did well.Mate if you saw the SA Series if you bowl chest high at off stump or at his body he pulls its out of the ground .I think every body has his weakness and as most young batsman dhoni struggles on the offstump line
which he should improve as he gains experience.Even gilly and sangakara were not that great when they started but this guy has a fantastic start and
he may be lot better than those who knows.But those guys who say that he has no talent please understand that a guy who averages40 plus in odi and 30 + in test has some talent
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The Blazer said:And for all those idiots who gave me negative reps, grow up will you?
What exactly did I do to have my reputation take a bashing other than criticize an Indian player. Some of you need to learn how to debate.
And then they wonder why I say some people here are anti-Pakistani.
I didn't give you negative reps you idiot. How about you grow up and get over it? I didn't even have a problem with you, I just expressed my opinion and agreed with the other guys posting that Afridi is a mindless slogger.
: You're a joke.But I think Zorax is on the money about Dhoni. As I said earlier, his has improved. As for his keeping, well I don't take to much notice of that.
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Regarding Dhoni,
He is improving everytime. I wonder how many ppl have watched Dhoni right from the beginning of his career? He was brought into the team during Bangladesh's tour where he was not given enough time to settle in and bat.
Then his first century of 148 runs against Pakistan actually impressed everyone. Then from there, he looked attacking everytime. He performed well in Zimbabwe too ( Ind-NZ-Zim TriSeries ) with two fifties and averaging 50+ in that series!
And, 183* innings against SL made him very popular! His ability to hit sixes with huge power became his main strength!
I even remember very well that Brett Lee telling to media, " Its challenging to bowl to Tendulkar but scary to bowl to Dhoni "
In later part of his career, i can very well observed the maturity in his innings... He has improved a lots from the initial stage of his career. Dhoni, who seemed to attack the bowler trying to hit a huge six, now a days, is trying to play according to the match situations which is good to see from him as that wud really help in long run!
Some of the examples below for matured way of playing in recent times,
1) Dhoni-Raina partnership against SriLanka in India, that helped India to win from the trouble situation, where Dhoni kept his cool tempo and tried to stay there and rotated strikes with Raina! Infact he got his first four when he was 40+! That handy innings helped India to win too.
2) Dhoni's matured innings in One of the ODIs in Windies where all the batsmen struggled against the slow ball.. Dhoni played patiently and finished the Indian innings well by accelerating the score in end stages.... though India lost i guess! But all the commentator's remark was " An Excellent innings from Dhoni "
3) In India's current tour of SA, Dhoni have done well and outsmated all Indian batsmen in ODIs. He earned the comment from this tour, " If Dhoni can do it, why not other Indian batsmen who failed to do it... All the batsmen ( Indian batsmen in that ODI series ) shd learn from Dhoni's promising attitude "
These are just few examples... But in every match Dhoni is improving! Dhoni definitely has a huge future ahead as he has just started his career. Dhoni and Yuvraj are now our potential match winners.
Also, Dhoni has just played 59 ODIs and 15 Tests. Yet a long way to go for him.. And its too early to call him a Star and also too early to compare with Gilchrist who has loads of experience under his belt. But Dhoni has huge talents and definitely a good future waiting for him ahead!
He is improving everytime. I wonder how many ppl have watched Dhoni right from the beginning of his career? He was brought into the team during Bangladesh's tour where he was not given enough time to settle in and bat.
Then his first century of 148 runs against Pakistan actually impressed everyone. Then from there, he looked attacking everytime. He performed well in Zimbabwe too ( Ind-NZ-Zim TriSeries ) with two fifties and averaging 50+ in that series!
And, 183* innings against SL made him very popular! His ability to hit sixes with huge power became his main strength!
I even remember very well that Brett Lee telling to media, " Its challenging to bowl to Tendulkar but scary to bowl to Dhoni "
In later part of his career, i can very well observed the maturity in his innings... He has improved a lots from the initial stage of his career. Dhoni, who seemed to attack the bowler trying to hit a huge six, now a days, is trying to play according to the match situations which is good to see from him as that wud really help in long run!
Some of the examples below for matured way of playing in recent times,
1) Dhoni-Raina partnership against SriLanka in India, that helped India to win from the trouble situation, where Dhoni kept his cool tempo and tried to stay there and rotated strikes with Raina! Infact he got his first four when he was 40+! That handy innings helped India to win too.
2) Dhoni's matured innings in One of the ODIs in Windies where all the batsmen struggled against the slow ball.. Dhoni played patiently and finished the Indian innings well by accelerating the score in end stages.... though India lost i guess! But all the commentator's remark was " An Excellent innings from Dhoni "
3) In India's current tour of SA, Dhoni have done well and outsmated all Indian batsmen in ODIs. He earned the comment from this tour, " If Dhoni can do it, why not other Indian batsmen who failed to do it... All the batsmen ( Indian batsmen in that ODI series ) shd learn from Dhoni's promising attitude "
These are just few examples... But in every match Dhoni is improving! Dhoni definitely has a huge future ahead as he has just started his career. Dhoni and Yuvraj are now our potential match winners.
Also, Dhoni has just played 59 ODIs and 15 Tests. Yet a long way to go for him.. And its too early to call him a Star and also too early to compare with Gilchrist who has loads of experience under his belt. But Dhoni has huge talents and definitely a good future waiting for him ahead!
It used to be that. His batting against the short ball was very good in the CT and here in South Africa. Trust me, I used to bash Dhoni too, but now I see why they picked him. Apart from being a brutally destructive and talented batsman (Sacry to bowl too
), he also seems a very good learner. He has impoved a lot.
