Murali retiring after Galle test

[pcfan123]

How many more bang/zim wickets did murali take than warne?

Subtract the difference from Muralis record, or exclude both Zim and Bang from both players and who is the highest wicket taker?

 

[drainpipe32]

Warne, he barely took any against those two teams.

 

[sami ullah khan]

Well here we go again. Another Warne Vs Murali debate. I personally liked Warne more. Him and Wasim Akram are bowlers I loved to see bowl. There was always something happening with these two. Murali did take a lot of wickets against Bangladesh and Zim but he also troubled the best players of Spinner. I have seen him demolish Indian batting line up more than once. Murali and Warne were different sort of bowlers, both great in their own art of bowling. Murali is best offspinner to have played and Warne is best Leggie. Thats how I see it.

 

[drainpipe32]

Well here we go again. Another Warne Vs Murali debate.

Um no. How was that a debate?

 

[sami ullah khan]

The conversation sounded like debate to me

 

[Mike23]

How many more bang/zim wickets did murali take than warne?

Subtract the difference from Muralis record, or exclude both Zim and Bang from both players and who is the highest wicket taker?

Murali took approx. 160 more wickets of zim/ban than warne, but if you consider the stats without these 2 teams Murali has performed better.

                    Matches      Wickets      Average        RPO
Shane Warne           142            691        25.40        2.64
Murali                107            616        24.88        2.53

P.S Warne never had to bowl against the Aussie batsman.

 

[drainpipe32]

P.S Warne never had to bowl against the Aussie batsman.

Murali never had to bowl against the Sri Lankan batsmen

Plus Sri Lankan surfaces are more spin friendly, as are Indian ones where he played a lot. Etc Etc, he played more against the Windies and NZ, etc, etc. We've done this to death, lets not do it now?

Gazza added 0 Minutes and 44 Seconds later...

The conversation sounded like debate to me

Three sentences to see who had more wickets against the major sides. Not a debate, just curiosity.

 

[Dare]

Three sentences to see who had more wickets against the major sides. Not a debate, just curiosity.

He says it because he knows where it will go eventually.

 

[sohum]

Murali couldn't help who he played against, can he? He took wickets when he played, and that's what matters.

For the record, compared to Warne:

- Murali averages less against every opposition except Pakistan.
- Murali averages less in every country except Australia (-50), India (-2), South Africa (-2) and Zimbabwe (-5).
- Murali didn't get to play 15% of his Test matches against England (Warne averages 23 against them compared to Murali's 20). In fact, Warne played 22 matches against England, which is twice the number of matches Murali played against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh and 5 more if you include Murali's matches against England.

The bottom line? Both were impressive bowlers. To pretend that Murali only has better numbers because he played a lot of games against Bangladesh/Zimbabwe is faulty. The guy feasted on poor opposition but he destroyed many capable batting line-ups as well. There's no point in trying to pick one as being better than the other because it is very subjective.

I'm sure we'll see War come in here now and show how every time Warne played he was out of form and every time Murali played he was in supreme touch. :sarcasm

 

[ZexyZahid]

Here is another doubter.

'Murali doesn't deserve the record' - Emerson
Cricinfo staff
July 8, 2010
'Murali doesn't deserve the record' - Emerson | Australia Cricket News | Cricinfo.com

 

[sohum]

You'd really think international umpires would do their research before shooting their mouths off. The ICC law regarding bending of the elbow was changed because greater than 90% of international bowlers were illegal according to the old laws. It's not like the rule was changed specifically to allow Murali to bowl. He's obviously not seen all the research behind Murali's action either. It's a good thing he was not re-appointed to the umpire's panel since he's clearly letting his opinion get in the way of facts.

 

[drainpipe32]

Warne averaged less away from home.

 

[shravi]

Warne averaged less away from home.

Yeah, well... Warne had smelly feet!

Seriously, Warne-Murali debate is getting stale now.

 

[pcfan123]

Never got the whole comparing an offie to a leggie thing anyways. But I'd have Warne in my team over Murali by a country mile, simply cause good leggies are so rare.

 

[drainpipe32]

Seriously, Warne-Murali debate is getting stale now.

Amen.