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This looks like it's gonna be a thrilling series. 
Pakistan vs New zealand : 2 Test & 3 ODI: Dec 26, 2022 - Jan 13, 2023 at Karachi
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If anything - these two series have shown why are batsmen are useless everywhere in the world except in Pakistan. Play on roads all your life and then go somewhere where the ball actually does something and you're found out on day one. Really invalidated some of those First Class Averages.
Annoyingly, these monumental series are being ruined and tarnished due to the nature of these pitches.
Annoyingly, these monumental series are being ruined and tarnished due to the nature of these pitches.
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I know there are broader issues at play, but I can see why very few people are turning up to watch.
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Pakistan doing typical Pakistan. Who was actually leading? Also how can a player not in XI lead a side?
Also please get test cricket out of Pakistan. There is no way that pitch curators in Pakistan think this is ok for 3 series in a row?
Also please get test cricket out of Pakistan. There is no way that pitch curators in Pakistan think this is ok for 3 series in a row?
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Had enough of BazBall. His home team showing how to BazBlock and still win a test match. Bravo
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Credits to England CRICKET team for their bazball approach for making tests interesting on such dead pitches.
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The thing is, the First Class pitches have been actually decent since the overhaul in 2019. Ramiz coming and ranting about pitches when they were actually fine is the weirdest thing. Like, he started his crusade exactly after the domestic pitches were fixed after a long time. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, check the pitches in all the pre-Ramiz Tests we hosted.
Why does Ramiz Raja think Pakistan have a problem with their pitches?
Surfaces have not been bad there historically. Ironically, they have been since he became chairman
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I honestly think the pitches that are designed to last five days. It costs a lot of money to bring Australia, England, New Zealand over and you need to recoup that costs somehow. Two or three day test match won't help but getting in five days of Tapal Tea moments might do.The thing is, the First Class pitches have been actually decent since the overhaul in 2019. Ramiz coming and ranting about pitches when they were actually fine is the weirdest thing. Like, he started his crusade exactly after the domestic pitches were fixed after a long time. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, check the pitches in all the pre-Ramiz Tests we hosted.
Why does Ramiz Raja think Pakistan have a problem with their pitches?
Surfaces have not been bad there historically. Ironically, they have been since he became chairman
Unfortunately I doubt anyone is tuning in to watch New Zealand score at 3.19 ( I'm certainly not, I will watch just about any cricket).
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It's not pitch. It's the skill. Current lot of PAK is terrible. Imagine bowling 200+ overs.... horrible! The sooner they understand, we’re ordinary, the better they perform. I'll leave the moral dishonesty factor in selection for another time
That Sodhi wicket shows they are upping the ante and looking to give 250 odd target on last day deck
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That Sodhi wicket shows they are upping the ante and looking to give 250 odd target on last day deck
The skill is why PAK are losing. The pitch is why they're losing in five days instead of three.
Test heading for Draw tomorrow
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I love Imam's temperament but he doesn't have good numbers in Pakistan outside Rawalpindi. Ideally, you would want someone who can score runs around the world. Hurraira can play alongside shafique with Shan @#3, followed by babar, Saud and keeper.
Right. There definitely is someone who has an axe to grind against Fawad. He should have been a regular in the team for a decade now. Heck even the Indian team post Dravid/Laxman/Tendulkar would fit in such a batsman in the midst of Pujara, Kohli and Rahane. He is brilliant player and yes I saw him when he first made his debut and if I remember correctly he scored a hundred too. Good to know he has found his way somewhere else but what is disappointing is the PCB and selectors' towards certain players. One cannot succeed with such an attitude.
Good to see the left arm seamer Mir being given a debut although on a lifeless pitch. Out of interest, is Hasan Ali injured as well? Did he have phenomenal numbers in Tests when he played last?
I'm keen to see how NZ nurture Bracewell. He is playing as a bowler in the ongoing test but if I remember correctly he has better numbers domestically with the bat than ball.
Coming back to Pakistan, they should nurture Faheem and Nawaz just as Australia did with Green or India did with Hardik and Jadeja and even doing right now with Axar and Sundar because these two (Faheem and Nawaz) can bring in a lot of balance to the team and give options on a day like these where your main bowlers seem clueless.
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I think it should be considered that we’re missing Shaheen and Naseem.
True, true.
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