PlanetCricket Mafia | Endgame!

[simsanta123]

Now there are definitely 2 more mafias.
From what I have heard, Mark, Jake, Blake are said to be mafia contenders. (I personally don't know much abt. Jake and Blake, so if someone could enlighten me, I would be very grateful)
Someone also suggested Jake and Blake could be cult (no idea why).
There hasn't been any mention of a cult, so that possibility is slim.

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I agree with Varun. Unless he is the godfather and he somehow came to know that MaD was the usurper, his bringing up the lost mafia would be unnecessary. (Of course, he could also be doing a Papa vs. Zorax from prev game ) Still, he is not high on my suspicion list.

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TBH, it makes sense to have 6 mafia + SK, and it isn't overbalanced considering there was a lost mafia, and we have a killing role on our side as well. (the guy who perma-banned)

I am not sure if we have a killing role. That guy was mentioned only once, so he probably had a one-shot or something.

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Also, I feel none of Ollie's, Spoobir's or Abhas's arguments are making much sense to me.

Some questions-
Abhas- What was your purpose of saying that you were silenced? Did you pre-empt the mafia (if you're not mafia) attack?

 

[Varun]

(I personally don't know much abt. Jake and Blake, so if someone could enlighten me, I would be very grateful)

I'll explain that in short. Jake was a kinda racist person, and blake was kinda his best friend on PC. Eventually, he got perma-banned and kept beseeching the mods for a chance to come back, but got banned again and again, and his warnings exhausted. Blake was much annoyed by this, and the overall PC environment and created a thread http://www.planetcricket.org/forums/feedback-suggestions/bring-back-jakester1244-69449.html and http://www.planetcricket.org/forums/feedback-suggestions/how-become-valued-member-planetcricket-user-guide-blake-69494.html, and got perma-banned. They both kept on accessing PC through multiple accounts and a lot of them have been detected and banned by the admins.

That's all.

 

[simsanta123]

Yeah, I know exactly that no one has been silenced today I just thought i'd do it to get another lynch. I never even said that we would have to wait and see if someone was silenced and didn't want to do anything immediate hence why I went for Riz and not you.

I couldn't fully comprehend your statement. How did you know exactly that no-one was silenced? Did you know that Abhas was lying initially? How could you have known? Or are you basing this on the number of mafias?

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Thanks a lot Varun. Now either both of them are cult or mafia. Why would Jake/Blake get preference over one another? 6 mafias is very much possible.

 

[Spoobir]

Ok for all you people saying there can be 6 mafia:

We lynched Varun on day 1 which was fair enough because he's pretty useless at best. Then on night 1 let's change ONE thing and say the SK killed a townie instead of hedger, we skipped day 2 and then on night 2 two townies die again. That would mean at the start of day 3 with your setup there would be 6 mafia to just 8 town (maybe not even that if there is a survivor) with the SK still out there as well. Do you really think that is a balanced game? I personally think User and Chewie are smart enough not to screw us over that badly...

That is why I think there are only 2 mafia left, which is why I knew Abhas' silenced claim was bull, which he has admitted, which is why you should lynch him.

Thank you and good night.

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Should be Vedarshi not Varun...

 

[simsanta123]

Hmm.. your argument does make slight sense (though P&C can prove anything). What if there are 2 mafias.- 1 Godfather, 1 Silencer?
(Sorry, if you have explained this earlier, might have missed it)

 

[Spoobir]

Poisoner! There is no silencer! That's the whole point, Abhas lied about being silenced.

 

[simsanta123]

Sorry, forgot about Poisoner.
So what abt. the characters?
Mark, jake, blake, who else?

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And yes there is no silencer, as Abhas himself has admitted he wasn't silenced.

 

[Ollie_H]

I couldn't fully comprehend your statement. How did you know exactly that no-one was silenced? Did you know that Abhas was lying initially? How could you have known? Or are you basing this on the number of mafias?

I was being sarcastic. It would be a clever tactic to claim he was silenced to make it seem like he wasn't mafia, and now he has said he was lieing to try and pick people off through their reaction.

TBH, it makes sense to have 6 mafia + SK, and it isn't overbalanced considering there was a lost mafia, and we have a killing role on our side as well. (the guy who perma-banned)

Isn't the only killing role we had the SK? And even then he wasn't town. There might be a Jack around who either has a kill, or has just been given one to even things out. maybe.

And adding to Abhas' argument, coincidentally, both Spoobir and Ollie are gunning for 'inactive' players, especially Abhas. It could be an attempt to get Abhas out of the way and compensate for the three mafia deaths, huh?

lynch: Riz7Khan

Pressure lynch. He's done absolutely nothing at all so far. I have an FOS: Abahs at the moment too, saying he was silenced could have been a very good ploy for him to be on our side and rid him of suspicion unless we find out that someone has been silenced today too.

Anyhow, suspicion remains on Riz for inactivity.

See how I wasn't lynching Abhas off because he had been inactive even though you seemed to insinuate that I was? Why would I not want to lynch off an inactive player right now? Riz isn't contributing at all so not sure why I should want to keep him in the game? I don't think he has even made 10 posts in the thread.

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TBH, it makes sense to have 6 mafia + SK, and it isn't overbalanced considering there was a lost mafia, and we have a killing role on our side as well. (the guy who perma-banned)

Isn't the only killing role we had the SK? And even then he wasn't town. There might be a Jack around who either has a kill, or has just been given one to even things out. maybe.

 

[Spoobir]

I have no idea about what characters might be mafia btw. I kinda figured Highlander would be one but that was all tbh.

 

[Varun]

Perhaps Jake/Blake aren't there. Of all who have died, they are all currently on the pc, with no one banned currently. Jake/Blake are perma-banned so perhaps they aren't there?

 

[simsanta123]

This is what Chewie wrote way back in the Mafia Discussion Thread-
MattW as cop (investigates members)
Aussie1st as tracker (similar to Matt)
barmyarmy as double voter (very influential)

Abhas as Miller (he's always mafia )
Chewie as Doctor (lawyer in waiting, protects people)
Hedger as beloved princess (young one)
Callum as Bus Driver (catches the bus? lol I dunno)

ZexyZahid as Cult leader (Fantasy Cricket)
Abhas and Chewie as recruitable to cult (both FC members)

Or Callum as cult leader, and Hedger and Chewie recruitable (League section)

Jake as mafia godfather (most prominent banned member)
Blake as mafia goon (followed Jake)
Mark as roleblocker (bait people so that they couldn't do anything)
irrotev as Posioner (no idea... poison mouth?)

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Ofcourse that was just to give everyone an idea, but it seems he stuck with Abhas as miller.
He has mentioned Blake and Jake, so who knows...

 

[AfridiRulez]

Ok this bus driver stuff is confusing....

And Abhas, why did you lie about being silenced?

 

[Highlander999]

I'm pleased that Papa_Smurf turned out to be anti-town, I had a hunch on him, he was being a tad too agressive on the lynching side of things.

Of course talking of agressive lynching I am going to be a total hypocrite and now say

Lynch: Abhas

I don't really know what his game is at the moment. His lie about being silenced just doesn't add up, I really don't understand why he would lie about it Also I have a FOS on AfridiRulez, I reckon he is playing the stupid card with the bus driver role to possibly draw attention away from himself?

 

[Abhas]

Seems some people have confusion over why I lied about being silenced.

Let me also clarify it again,
I was not silenced, I am not saying there is a mafia silencer.

As town, if I said I was silenced, there was no evidence in support of it that I was lying. The town doesn't know any roles, and if I claimed there is a silencer around, it shouldn't be too surprising.

It was the mafia who knew there is no silencer on their side. I wanted a reaction from them, because I knew they would react to this, considering it was an opportunity to get me out of the game.

If I would have been mafia, I chose the worst day for sitting quiet, considering a mafia was lynched in MaD. Had I been mafia, I would have definitely tried to save him rather can pretend being silenced.

I would like to ask you guys 1 question, why did everyone assume the silencer to be a mafia? can't an individual be a silencer? can't there be more than one individual in a game of 20?
Look back at WWE mafia 1 and I had the silencer role as an individual.

Spoobir is adamant on there being 5 mafia. Why?

This is also a tactic played by mafia to make the town underestimate their numbers or powers. It brings about complacency, and possibly mistakes.

Leave the balance of the game on the mods. I don't know why everyone is contemplating whether the balance is right or wrong. Do you know all the roles? Remember Harry Potter mafia? the balance was quite dynamic there.

Also, I can see how quickly Spoobir is trying to detract, and has moved onto the possible mafia characters. Is that needed right now? NO.
He's also conveniently not mentioned Mark being a mafia character, even though we know how MaD claimed Mark safely, because the role was within the mafia.

I hope I've clarified most of your doubts. I'm happy to take more questions, but I'm concerned, nobody's questioning the Spoobir.

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Also, any sort of support for my case is making Spoobir increasingly aggressive.

FOS: Varun
Defending Abhas to the death.

What is making you aggressive? As far as I can see, there are more votes on me than on you.

 

[BKB1991]

It was the mafia who knew there is no silencer on their side. I wanted a reaction from them, because I knew they would react to this, considering it was an opportunity to get me out of the game.

If I was mafia I would wait and see you give out a reason to why you were presumably silenced. It would make more sense for them to try and understand what is going on (remember they know more than town, so they would like to keep them in check) then lynch someone, anyone, randomly.

Plus they are very unlikely to mention that you are silenced considering its usually a mafia role (even if they are trying to show they are town, its very unlikely).

Staying quite on the MaD thing might actually be a very good idea for you. In the last game it was Simsanta who was quiet during the mafia lynches and hence we couldnt really figure out his alignment and we basically lynched him for his inactivity.

I am not saying you are mafia, but you LIED. Thats something townies should not do unless they are protecting themselves because they have a role. And you dont fit in the category just yet.

I think we need your character claim, because I am prepared to lynch you off just because you lied to the town and how do we know that you are saying the truth when you are town. You have already lied once..