Puddle Mafia 02 - Game over - Sedition wins - 3rd Party Win

[Themer]

It wasn't bandwagoning, I always lynch off confirmed non-towns for the same reason you lynched him.

In regards to the roles list I think it's a watcher we've got not a tracker as you've put there.

 

[Abhas]

If the doc was indeed roleblocked tonight, we might be in trouble, because it's definitely the doc in danger tonight.

I reckon he shouldn't come out in the open though. It is too early to reveal your roles. It is a small game, and even a bit of surprise for the mafia can be fatal.
The watcher should pick up hints and decide whom to target at night.

Smurf, I reckon this is not the best time to go after the roles. Results from the roles are more important, and so far, we haven't got any.

 

[Themer]

Right. I think it's time to grab the bull by the horns. We're allowing too many people to float through without trying to give a lot towards the game.

My main suspicions have called into Zhuorb and Varun. Zhu hasn't really given us anything worthwhile and no ones really questioned him as to why. He's basically written a one line sentence on each paragraph of both night write ups. To compound that we have his odd logic yesterday for lynching people. Didn't give any reasons as to why he lynched people other than pressure lynches. Looked more like he was trying to start bandwagons to me.

Secondly you've Varun who on the face of it has been a tad more active than Zhuorb but also in my opinion has made some illogical conclusions/statements. I don't understand why he would question Users activity when Zhuprb had posted even less unless he was privy as to a reason for the formers lack of activity.

Something's amiss in my opinion. For now

Lynch : Zhuorb

 

[puddleduck]

Vote Count

Themer (1) - Abhas,
Zhuorb (1) - Themer

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. There are 24 hour left in the day.

 

[Sedition]

FOS: Sediton and Themer

I reckon it was one of you, or both, who knocked me off last night. Probably because you thought I was the vamp. I'm with Abhas that one of the mafia was definitely on the BKB bandwagon. I still think it was the right lynch for Day 1. BKB had no night role, and if he did, it definitely would not have been pro-town. Plus, from a selfish perspective, it allowed me to see how PD would count the DV role in the vote count.

At the moment, I'm more inclined that Themer's mafia, but that's only because he band-wagoned and not started the BKB lynch.

Regarding the write-up, is the whore an actual role or an euphanism for the role-blocker? And what makes you guys think it was the Doc who was blocked?

You being first to mention the vampire thing explains why they probably targeted you. Surprised me that you were the one taken out, since one of BKB's lynchers was confirmed DV, I figured they'd go for someone not on the list and hope to take advantage of the double vote later.

I still think the mafia were among the ones not paying attention at the time or holding back from lynching. Since we started at day, they may not have even met yet, so would be understandably hesitant to lynch anyone out. As for Themer, his play seems consistent with his town play from last game and he's more active this time, which is a positive from my perspective.

and yeah prostitute is just another name for the mafia roleblocker. I thought the doc was blocked because the cop and watcher were referenced in the write-up, while the doc wasn't, unless he was the one blocked.

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If the doc was indeed roleblocked tonight, we might be in trouble, because it's definitely the doc in danger tonight.

I reckon he shouldn't come out in the open though. It is too early to reveal your roles. It is a small game, and even a bit of surprise for the mafia can be fatal.
The watcher should pick up hints and decide whom to target at night.

Smurf, I reckon this is not the best time to go after the roles. Results from the roles are more important, and so far, we haven't got any.

I agree that a mass claim probably isn't the best right now, not with the roleblocker still out there anyway.

If the doc knows he was blocked, then he has to claim though, since the mafia will be forced to target someone else under the premise that the doc is now being watched.

Maybe they'll hit the cop or watcher instead, but the way I see it, there's a 50% chance they hit a vanilla or some other passive role, hell maybe even a bomb.

If he wasn't blocked, then yeah, no reason to claim at this stage.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

Zhu hasn't really given us anything worthwhile and no ones really questioned him as to why. He's basically written a one line sentence on each paragraph of both night write ups. To compound that we have his odd logic yesterday for lynching people. Didn't give any reasons as to why he lynched people other than pressure lynches. Looked more like he was trying to start bandwagons to me.

Forgot about Zhuorb. Just looked at his posts since the game began. All he's done is repeated what's already been said about the write-ups, a random lynch on Yoki and the hammer on BKB.

User2010's in the same boat, but atleast he has tried to post something. Useless townies are as dangerous as the mafia.

Lynch: Zhuorb

 

[puddleduck]

Vote Count

Themer (1) - Abhas,
Zhuorb (2) - Themer, Papa Smurf

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. There are 20 hours left in the day.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

If the doc knows he was blocked, then he has to claim though, since the mafia will be forced to target someone else under the premise that the doc is now being watched.

What's wrong with that? The doc's probably the most important role.

 

[Sedition]

I didn't say anything was wrong with it? I said if the doc knows he was blocked then he has to claim so we can protect him. If he was blocked and doesn't claim, then he'll be dead tonight and his protection on someone else will be redundant.

I had my suspicions on Abhas at the start of the day, but his activity has put me at ease a bit now. I thought Zhuorb was playing as he typically does as town, by not contributing anything worthwhile, but it's obviously a strategy that transfers well to mafia, and we don't need ---- town anyway, so..

FOS: Zhuorb

User might lose the goodwill he built up in my mind yesterday if he continues on the way he has today, especially as I get more town vibes from the others.

Varun I'm not too sure about, only thing I was suspicious of is holding off the lynch on BKB, but he was at least aware of the potential DV and was trying to give the others a chance to post.

 

[Gaurav_7]

First things first, let me know Sedition, how can I post when I'm not online? I've come on now, read the thread and am responding. It hurts me to see that over 12 hours' inactivity is considered as being 'inactive' in the mafia games nowadays.

Coming back to the game, I am suspicious of Varun. That post of his after I quoted mine post to him tells me that this isn't the normal 'town' Varun, I know. Too short for an opinion? So, what do I need to do? Post some random lengthy paras? That's a weird one tbh. I'm not sure about Zhuorb. He's sort of a player you never know with. I'd want him to post now as he has some votes already on him to get something from those posts..

For now,
Lynch: Varun

 

[Sedition]

Well when players aren't online for 18 hours, it becomes a decent lead that they might be mafia and are just looking forward to night no? No one even said you were inactive, just that you've hardly contributed anything today, which again, is generally a mafia trait and needs to be mentioned for others to take notice of, and to entice you to come back and post.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

I didn't say anything was wrong with it? I said if the doc knows he was blocked then he has to claim so we can protect him. If he was blocked and doesn't claim, then he'll be dead tonight and his protection on someone else will be redundant.

And how will we protect him? I don't understand this theory of yours that the doc has to claim.

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I don't understand User's lynch on Varun either. Not defending him cos Iive got a null read on Varun, but User's reasoning is that he called User inactive.

 

[ved_]

Yeah so, what the fearsome tweak. Can I please have them votes off? Those lynches on me have no base at all. "Oh you're inactive, let me lynch you!". Please, don't make such lame excuses.
Oh and by the way, I expected this following my inactivity. This time it was legitimate, though. I got kinda busy yesterday.
The votes can be bandwagoned guys, seriously. Please unvote. i really am not in the mood to claim. Claiming could fearsome tweak up things for me at the moment.

 

[Sedition]

Why is it hard to understand? If he was blocked and the mafia already know who he is, then by claiming the watcher can target him and make sure he isn't killed, or find a mafia if he is. The doc probably can't be roleblocked two nights in a row, so he's then free to protect another of the mafia's potential targets.

From the mafia's perspective, there's probably 5 town, the doc who they know and can't target because the watcher will see them kill, so there's 4 town they can target. One is watcher, one is cop, so 50/50 on nailing a town PR, who may have doc protection anyway.

Since the doc hasn't claimed, it leads me to believe that he wasn't blocked though, or is just too confused about why he should claim if he was blocked. I thought it was pretty obvious, but if others don't understand then I'm not sure what to make of it.

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@ Smurf ^

 

[Gaurav_7]

Yeah so, what the kerpluck. Can I please have them votes off? Those lynches on me have no base at all. "Oh you're inactive, let me lynch you!". Please, don't make such lame excuses.
Oh and by the way, I expected this following my inactivity. This time it was legitimate, though. I got kinda busy yesterday.
The votes can be bandwagoned guys, seriously. Please unvote. i really am not in the mood to claim. Claiming could kerpluck up things for me at the moment.

Wow, that's a ridiculous post to make. And, I see the traditional 'claiming can eff up things' line as well...

I don't understand User's lynch on Varun either. Not defending him cos Iive got a null read on Varun, but User's reasoning is that he called User inactive.

No, I never said I'm lynching him because he said or was mistaken that I'm inactive. But, the 'too short for an opinion' thing is weird. It's nothing more than me feeling Varun might be scum after his post, that's it.