riz7khan12
Panel of Selectors
he didn't want to play test cricket; but the PCB begged him to. I guess he shouldn't be playing anyway.
Shahid Afridi to retire from Tests
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ali_ed2001
Club Cricketer
You're right, he is being honest and well done to him for that.
But the reason why most people are criticizing him is because he left the captaincy just after 1 test in the middle of the tour. He could have at least waited till the Australia series is over.
He did not even tell his teammates or the board before announcing the decision.
Dare
Chairman of Selectors
Just make Butt the captain in all formats. He is the only batsman in the team worth anything and only one scoring runs in all formats.
riz7khan12
Panel of Selectors
he is still going to play the last test, although you're right he should've discussed it with the team, not with the board though they would've manipulated him into staying.
Afridi is a much better captain than anyone in the last year. and making Butt the captain of all three formats would just be stupid. I dont think Butt should be captaining the test side either but their isn't anyone else to choose from.
ali_ed2001
Club Cricketer
he is still going to play the last test, although you're right he should've discussed it with the team, not with the board though they would've manipulated him into staying.
Afridi is a much better captain than anyone in the last year. and making Butt the captain of all three formats would just be stupid. I dont think Butt should be captaining the test side either but their isn't anyone else to choose from.
Afridi will not play the next test either, I can pretty much guarantee you on that.
Right now it looks like Afridi will stay as captain for odi's and t20's, and Butt will take over in Tests.
Prithvi
10 years at Planetcricket
Afridi at any day is a T20 player, but he retiring from test cricket for just one big loss is just foolish. Even legends Kumble, Ponting had tough time. Taking Kumble into consideration as I dunno much about Punter, team failed to perform under Kumble at Tour of Australia (first and second test matches) and Sri Lanka (first and third test matches). He replied Australia by a third test win at Perth and Sri lanka by 2nd test win at Galle. Afridi could have waited till the end of the series.
One question: Did Afridi retire from test Cricket or did he give up captaincy.
Confused cause some say that he bid adieu to test Cricket and some say he has given up captaincy. Whats true?
Leave it, so whats next?
Salman Butt joins Netherlands after he has been left out as captain:laugh.
Just kidding
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One question: Did Afridi retire from test Cricket or did he give up captaincy.
Confused cause some say that he bid adieu to test Cricket and some say he has given up captaincy. Whats true?
Leave it, so whats next?
Salman Butt joins Netherlands after he has been left out as captain:laugh.
Just kidding
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If the situation doesn't improve as far as finding better test players, PCB might force him again to reconsider and might threaten to drop him in ODI's or T20's if he doesn't comply. So he might be forced to comeback once again. This is Pakistan cricket, anything can happen!
Prithvi
10 years at Planetcricket
There should be someone to lead the toss right?
Again there, the differences in opinions of players will take birth.
If PCB supports, Afridi can lead the ODI and T20 sides with someone else doing the duty for Test matches, provided PCB should not hesitate in giving captaincy to someone whom they've sacked (Shoaib Malik).
PCB & their players should understand that one particular match or one particular series cannot say their future. They need to tour West Indies frequently like How India is touring Sri Lanka (that frequent). Then Pakistan will win few games and the confidence builds up.
As West Indies had even worse situation previous year, they even are people like Pakistan (Not much cricket).
Cricketman
ICC Chairman
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Man, what a tool. Can't believe a guy like this is/was the leader of the Pakistani cricket team - such a popular sport in the country and a team with such a great cricketing legacy. Such a shame.
Their collapse has been simply sickening.
Their collapse has been simply sickening.
@ Binnu, like I said coach should make all the calls, like other sports. So does other sports have captains? Yes they do. But coaches have more controls and makes all the calls. Captain is just a "captain". Just a puppet, he suppose to follow the coaches order. Butt can be that puppet. Waquar can do all the decision makings.
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pcfan123
Guest
Nah, that might work in American sports but not in cricket. The captain has to read the onfield situation (bowlers fatigue, what the pitch is doing, conditions, how the batsmen are playing) and the coach cannot do that from the sideline.
One thing I love about cricket captaincy is that it actually means something. Captaincy in American sports is just a bullshit term, it means nothing.
Prithvi
10 years at Planetcricket
Yes, I agree with you. Its good method, but its not gonna work for Pakistan team, where the differences in opinions of players are touching peaks, when compared to other teams. If the Pakistani captain sees the opponent captain, he feels like taking his own decision and gradually after few matches, he takes his own decisions on field. If you have even opponent captain following his coach, its possible.
Butt cannot be such like puppet IMO. He's more experienced player and he'll have his own views. If puppet system needs to be employed, its better to make some newbie captain like Mohammad Aamer.
Mohammad Aamer can do that puppet job perfectly as he don't have those many views and ideas on how actually the opponent plays. He might have that jealous feeling but he will follow his coach because he knows that he is not so talented captain. I'm sure that he can be the upcoming Pakistani captain (Not puppet captain) after 7-8 years of having this kind of experience.
Wow, that was a pathetic comeback by Afridi and even worse decision by PCB to ask him to, now they are going to ruin Butts career by making him Captain this group of misfits
Afridi's experience would have been handy given the absence of Khan and Youhana. But obviously he doesn't have the mentality to play long innings, he wants to play biff, bash, bosh cricket. It's ironic his Test stats are better than his ODI stats, averages low 20s with the bat in ODIs.
It's a sad indictment of some cricketer's mentality, although there was an article from a county pro suggesting they don't like T20?
While searching for that article, I came across this one :
Falling Twenty20 crowds worry county chairmen | England Cricket News | Cricinfo.com
Oh dear, not so much Tests are dead, but the passing fad that was T20 may have passed it's sell by date :laugh
Et voila : BBC Sport - Cricket - Players 'do not enjoy' Twenty20
Worth a thread on its own?!
