Should M Aamer be shown leniency?

[sami ullah khan]

People have had their say. This thread should be closed before more retards exploit it to flaunt their prejudice for Pakistan. No one has the right to blame the whole of Pakistan for act of a few individuals.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

The internet is full of trolls.

 

[.Mob]

People have had their say. This thread should be closed before more retards exploit it to flaunt their prejudice for Pakistan. No one has the right to blame the whole of Pakistan for act of a few individuals.

Absolutely no prejudice, just the truth. It's unfortunate, because Aamir is so young and has so much promise. This is exactly I feel an example must be made out of him, just the right thing to do.

If you don't think Pakistan cricket is an absolute farce, then you're kidding you're kidding yourselves. People biting cricket balls, people retiring only to return (like everybody they would anyway), team being split, druggies, all sorts of clowns.

As much I love Aamir, it just has to be done. I think, anyway.

 

[sami ullah khan]

^Have you read some of the comments. One wise guy has recommended that Pakistan should be stopped from playing any sort of sport . What would you call that?

 

[aussie1st]

Spot-fixing: Age cannot be an excuse - Pakistan associate manager | Cricket News | England v Pakistan 2010 | Cricinfo.com

Hard to argue with what the players in that link have said. From what I gather this is Amir first offense so he should be shown leniency in that regard but not for his age.

 

[Owzat]

I've been secretly hoping he bowled those big no-balls with the intention of getting caught(thus the reason they're so big, but it's most probably just due to inexperience), but with him coming out and denying the allegations, I doubt that could ever be the case.

Don't forget he had to make sure it was a no ball and to make sure of that it had to be so clearly a no ball even a blind umpire could see it! Had to be way over the crease, you try running up to the crease and bowling a no ball close to the line but clearly over.

Bottom line is it HAD to be given as a no ball, if it wasn't signalled a no ball then he would have failed in the whole purpose. It was a pretty good spot fix to rig for those setting them up, something that could easily be exposed and if the cricketers involved had realised how easy it was to spot that spot fix, maybe they'd have twigged it was a set-up. Or maybe it was one of many and they'd gotten complacent, I'd certainly be worried about getting caught and how easy to pick up it would be given the number of cameras around then ground.

As for the case of trying to defraud bookmakers, I wouldn't punish them for that. Bookies are the reason matches get fixed, they want to make money and so do the people who would defraud them. If there wasn't gambling on such stupid things like no balls or spread betting then there wouldn't be people taking money to fix events. You can bet your bottom dollar the people match fixing aren't poor........................................ pure greed on the part of all involved - cricketers, gamblers and bookies.

Owzat added 2 Minutes and 2 Seconds later...

Spot-fixing: Age cannot be an excuse - Pakistan associate manager | Cricket News | England v Pakistan 2010 | Cricinfo.com

Hard to argue with what the players in that link have said. From what I gather this is Amir first offense so he should be shown leniency in that regard but not for his age.

I think first offence is only an excuse if the offence is trivial, like swearing at an umpire or dissent etc. Match/spot fixing is something else, NOONE should be doing it and if you start letting people off lightly for first offences doesn't that just encourage first offenders to try it and also encourage repeat offenders.................?

 

[TumTum]

^Have you read some of the comments. One wise guy has recommended that Pakistan should be stopped from playing any sort of sport . What would you call that?

If you are talking about me, I meant ban Pakistan from cricket, not sport altogether.

 

[sami ullah khan]

You have no idea how passionately cricket is being followed here in Pakistan. There are strong repercussions that go beyond cricket, if your recommendation is actually followed. Many youth that indulge in cricket will lose their interest in the sport if our team is banned altogether. These young lads will be easy pray for brainwashing extremists here in Pakistan. Right now they can take their frustration out in cricket ground. Cricket adds a lot of positive in lives of jobless and aimless youth here in Pakistan. Do you want to deprive them of that? I am sorry if I sound too emotional but thats the way it is.

sami ullah khan added 10 Minutes and 1 Seconds later...

the aussie mentality shows again LOL



Anyway my opinion is just stop Pakistan from playing any sport. ever.

Here is my reason; When you get wealthy Pakistan players all they do is try to get even more wealthy by running scams and when you get the poor ones like Asif from bad poor backgrounds all they want to do is run scams so they can get wealthy. It's just how Pakistani's are they take shortcuts for everything; DQ them from cricket completely or make them play in some league but then they'd ruin that too

And there is the person wanting to ban Pakistan from all sports for ever. What a genius

 

[.Mob]

^Have you read some of the comments. One wise guy has recommended that Pakistan should be stopped from playing any sort of sport . What would you call that?

I was defending my post, not other peoples'.
Personally, I'd call it stupid bullshit.

 

[King Pietersen]

Leniency? No chance. He's 18, not 8, presuming he's found guilty, he knew exactly what he was doing, and deserves exactly the same punishment as Asif. He might be young by International Cricket standards, but he's old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. If found guilty, the book should be thrown at him.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

I just can't be bothered with this anymore. too many emotional reactions.

still, if he does get banned for life will be pretty funny to remember that england were torn to pieces by an 18 year old who was trying to lose.

 

[King Pietersen]

He wasn't trying to lose. He was trying to bowl no balls for money. There's a difference.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

He wasn't trying to lose. He was trying to bowl no balls for money. There's a difference.

I thought wild generalisations were par for the course in this thread?

 

[Master Khan]

if only Aamer is found gulity then only Aamer should be banned, not the whole team

 

[aussie1st]

I think first offence is only an excuse if the offence is trivial, like swearing at an umpire or dissent etc. Match/spot fixing is something else, NOONE should be doing it and if you start letting people off lightly for first offences doesn't that just encourage first offenders to try it and also encourage repeat offenders.................?

First time offenders are usually let off lightly in courts so if we are going to start changing then that is the first place we need to start changing. I'm happy for Amir to get the normal ban for this but Asif as a repeat offender should be facing a harsher sentence just like it would be in the court of law.