South Africa's tour of India - October/December 2015

[AliB]

Ashwin out of the rest of the series, Bhajji comes in.

 

[SaiSrini]

Ashwin out of the rest of the series, Bhajji comes in.

The only hope from Bhajji will be his batting. If he can get those big hits going, it can help. Currently, he is almost a part timer who cannot be expected to contribute much on the bowling side. That's how his bowling has become.

The series has already started slipping away. That's how much we now rely on Ashwin.

 

[War]

I see the IND fans here are already stating their displeasure about it , so all I'd say it will be interesting humorous viewing to see how long IND selectors persist with Stuart Binny before he is dropped for good.[DOUBLEPOST=1444607618][/DOUBLEPOST]

Feel for MS. I think he's the best finisher in the history of cricket.

Its close between him Bevan and Hussey.

 

[aditya123]

The only hope from Bhajji will be his batting. If he can get those big hits going, it can help. Currently, he is almost a part timer who cannot be expected to contribute much on the bowling side. That's how his bowling has become.

The series has already started slipping away. That's how much we now rely on Ashwin.

Its regressive selection according to me. And as if its divine right, Harby will walk into the side ahead of Gurkeerat in the next game. Expect a royal thrashing at Indore and Rajkot which are deathbeds for bowlers.

 

[PokerAce]

A serious question about Dhoni ... if India do go on and lose the series, would you agree that a change of Captain would be inevitable?

I think either way, after this series Dhoni should step down as captain and continue to be the keeper in the ODI side. Dhoni can continue to lead the T20 side till the World T20 and then decide his future.

I think this is the best way to move forward form here on. Dhoni is no longer the hitter, and thus batting at 4 becomes essential for him. Rahane and Raina could come lower down the order. I still think India need to look at a batsman part time spinner option. India are really missing the Sehwags and Yuvis of the world with the ball. Raina seems not quite upto it.

 

[grkrama]

^While i do agree i want to see an relieved dhoni just playing, i dont think most issues stem from MSD's captaincy binny, harby, rayudu etc should nt be in the squad at all, i even remember MSD not liking binny much, and seeing him play regularly means someone else hand is playing in these selections. On field if ashwin hasn't been injured things could have been different may be not b who knows.

Rahanae cant play at lower middle order, i dont know it looks inevitable if dhoni moves up rahane has to get out, cause with rohit's two hundred now he is going to be there for sometime now. While i have also been a supporter of Dhoni @ 4 theory i dont know if it is viable now its better for Dhoni to bear the finishing cross than others if he has to play cause i dont think MSD offers a better No4 than say a rahane or pujara would, another option i would consider is try bring in Murali vijay or tiwary into the eleven as a pure finisher see how it goes both have good def as well as aggressive game and would offer a great base down the order.

so all I'd say it will be interesting humorous viewing to see how long IND selectors persist with Stuart Binny before he is dropped for good.

having fun huh

 

[SaiSrini]

A serious question about Dhoni ... if India do go on and lose the series, would you agree that a change of Captain would be inevitable?

I think either way, after this series Dhoni should step down as captain and continue to be the keeper in the ODI side. Dhoni can continue to lead the T20 side till the World T20 and then decide his future.

I think this is the best way to move forward form here on. Dhoni is no longer the hitter, and thus batting at 4 becomes essential for him. Rahane and Raina could come lower down the order. I still think India need to look at a batsman part time spinner option. India are really missing the Sehwags and Yuvis of the world with the ball. Raina seems not quite upto it.

If Dhoni is relieved of captaincy (either voluntarily or politely asked to resign), it should be for both ODI's and T20 put together. There is no need to worry about the World T20 next year when it comes to making decision about the change in captaincy. A new captain can take over the team even a few months before the event and do well. Dhoni himself took over the captaincy just before the 2007 inaugural T20 World tournament and won the title for India.

I also want him to continue being the wicketkeeper batsman in the side. I dont think it should be awkward for Dhoni to play under a different captain. Ganguly looked awkward playing under Dravid and others because of the personality that he was. But I dont see a similar personality trait in Dhoni. He is a guy who is likely to feel comfortable under any captain. Also as much as we worry about the Rahane debate, its no issue. Its our bowling that needs to occupy most discussions about what's ailing Indian cricket. The bowling cupboard is empty right now. For batting, we have Vijay, Pujara, Tiwary, etc. to fill in if any of the batsmen are injured or hit bad form. But our bowling backup is shockingly bare. You have to resort to Harbhajan when Ashwin gets injured? Who r the fast bowlers if Shami is injured? Yadav? Aaron? Ishant? Whoa. Indian bowling has never looked so terrible

 

[AliB]

Hopefully Shami comes after the 3rd ODI and give a come-back to the team. Nevertheless he hasn't played a game since the WC SF vs Austral;ia but he is the best bowler for India without any doubt. He'll take soe time to settle as he's almost out from competitive cricket for almost 7 months. For the captaincy, MSD should step down regardless of the result of the series. I think if he steps down then he'll strasight away retire. If Kohli keeps on his terrible batting, he can't be selected as a captain. With Rohit being in great form, he can be selected as the captain though.

We need some serious backup for bowling as well.

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With Ashwin ruled out, my team for tomorrow will be:
Rohit
Dhawan
Rahane
Kohli
Raina
Dhoni
Harbhajan/Gurkeerat
Mishra
B Kumar
Yadav
Mohit

 

[namin96]

Hopefully Shami comes after the 3rd ODI and give a come-back to the team. Nevertheless he hasn't played a game since the WC SF vs Austral;ia but he is the best bowler for India without any doubt. He'll take soe time to settle as he's almost out from competitive cricket for almost 7 months. For the captaincy, MSD should step down regardless of the result of the series. I think if he steps down then he'll strasight away retire. If Kohli keeps on his terrible batting, he can't be selected as a captain. With Rohit being in great form, he can be selected as the captain though.

We need some serious backup for bowling as well.

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With Ashwin ruled out, my team for tomorrow will be:
Rohit
Dhawan
Rahane
Kohli
Raina
Dhoni
Harbhajan/Gurkeerat
Mishra
B Kumar
Yadav
Mohit

Well if keeping having Kohli come in at #4, we will not win games. He is our best player and he should play more and earlier in the team. I don't understand why Rahane can't come in at #4, he came in at #4 throughout the world cup. It's not rocket science. Also if you really want Rahane coming in early like Dhoni does then why not drop Dhawan and have Rahane open with Rohit, but the team wouldn't freaking do that.

 

[AliB]

Well if keeping having Kohli come in at #4, we will not win games. He is our best player and he should play more and earlier in the team. I don't understand why Rahane can't come in at #4, he came in at #4 throughout the world cup. It's not rocket science. Also if you really want Rahane coming in early like Dhoni does then why not drop Dhawan and have Rahane open with Rohit, but the team wouldn't freaking do that.

We can have Rahane at #4 but it's all over to Dhoni what he wants.

 

[grkrama]

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Lol im sure he would seal rahane's fate if he becomes captain

 

[PokerAce]

I agree about Dhawan, he has had two low to decent scoring games and suddenly he is out of form. The guy has two back to back Test 100, got a 100 against Bangladesh A, and one T20 later everyone was on about Dhawan this and Dhawan that.

 

[themusketeer]

Why would you want Dhoni as a WK-Batsman and Not as an captain ?
Is it his fault that our so called Future captain playing carelessly and failing in last 10 matches.
Is it his fault that Raina isn't providing the solidity?
Is it his fault that strike bowlers cant even deliver a Yorker in the slog overs and have to depend hugely on Ashwin?
Is it his fault he isn't getting enough support from his lads as he was getting previously ?

I know he isn't scoring runs and finishing matches like he is known for but there are ups and downs in every cricketer's career.

Can't we just give him some time to recover ? Like he gave the opportunity to Raina and Rohit.
Is this the way we treat our captain who gave us so many reasons to cherish about ?

Is this we all have to say at the end to every player " Retire" ? Like we always do.

 

[greymatter776]

Why would you want Dhoni as a WK-Batsman and Not as an captain ?
Is it his fault that our so called Future captain playing carelessly and failing in last 10 matches.
Is it his fault that Raina isn't providing the solidity?
Is it his fault that strike bowlers cant even deliver a Yorker in the slog overs and have to depend hugely on Ashwin?
Is it his fault he isn't getting enough support from his lads as he was getting previously ?

Wasn't it his fault that he took Ashwin away from attack immediately after he took a wicket?
Wasn't it his fault that he could not determine his place in the batting dept. ,not sure whether he is the finisher or the anchorer?
Wasn't it his fault that he chose to come in above others when the platform is set and pushes himself down when others around are failing,ultimately failing to do the captains job?

Wasn't it his fault that he always chose Binny in the team despite him doing nothing of much use recently?

 

[themusketeer]

Wasn't it his fault that he took Ashwin away from attack immediately after he took a wicket?
Wasn't it his fault that he could not determine his place in the batting dept. ,not sure whether he is the finisher or the anchorer?
Wasn't it his fault that he chose to come in above others when the platform is set and pushes himself down when others around are failing,ultimately failing to do the captains job?

Wasn't it his fault that he always chose Binny in the team despite him doing nothing of much use recently?

He had to save him because he has only one Ashwin.

When you have Raina,binny,Kohli.You would be in dilemma whether to anchor or Finish.

I am not sure what you talking about.

Is everything under Dhoni's hand ? I dont think so, if he had he would have preferred Jadeja over Binny and Axar.

The point is why Not to blame Kohli who played it like a test. We were in a good position beforw that.