bladescape
Club Cricketer
I agree Punter has his own class and none can beat it Now I say this Not even DOn Bradman
Your out of your mind!
I agree Punter has his own class and none can beat it Now I say this Not even DOn Bradman
Oh yeh, I'm sorry, I forgot you know everything.Listen champ, why don't you read the argument that is taking place instead of looking for places to stick in your biased little coin of "wisdom".
Why's that? Ponting's a contemporary and a comparable, if not superior batsman. If you're going to be comparing people's sportsmanship you have to compare them to their contemporaries and their equals.I know I didn't say that, but I will have to say that Ponting isn't a good person to compare with Sachin (in simpler terms, Sachin has shown more sportsmanship than Ponting)
Maybe you forgot the reason that huge fit was thrown--Mike Denness. It's easy to ignore everything else that happened in that test match to further your argument but some simple digging up in Cricinfo (India to 'forget' Mike Denness affair and Ball tampering controversy aired in Indian parliament) shows that most of the furor was caused due to uneven and biased judging by Denness, who seemed on a mission to ban half the Indian team before the third test commenced. So that addresses the part of your argument with the media and fans reacting.How am I suppoused to know why Sachin didn't get fined? Maybe he didn't get fined because the last time he got fined (for excessive appealing) and a suspension for ball tampering, the Indian media, fans, and parliament threw a huge fit although TV cameras clearly captured Sachin ball tampering.
Me and you all saw what he did. Lets simply agree on this. He should not AT ALL have done it, the end.
Well I argue that your lack of examples is what is pointing you to throw in examples from only this series. I also argue that your recently developed hatred for Tendulkar has formed this theory in your head, and you are now trying to hunt for evidence to justify your theory, instead of building your theory based on available evidence.Well, it was the most recent series, so I was under the impression that we would all remember it (and therefore it was a decent-enough example to use)
Of course, the bat pointing should have had nothing to do with the appeal system
Wrong. I have watched the videos on YouTube, and even the videos you put forth, and I can make the statement that there was no "waving of bat" in any of the videos you put forth, nor in any I saw on YouTube. It was a moment of hallucination on your part, it seems.Well I didn't provide the footage at the time, although I could, but since YouTube videos are banned...![]()
I have addressed all these points already.I hate to bring this back up, but BALL TAMPERING IS NOT SPORTING.
And this is different from the Oval Scenario. There was TV proof that he tampered with the ball, got a 1 test ban. If Indian Parliament, Media, and Fans could accept that he tampered, then possibly he would have served his punishment.
Sachin has never been one to "mentally destroy" the opposition, whether on the field or on paper. You will never see Sachin making pre-series predictions about his opponent's weaknesses, or see him sledging the opponents continuously. On the field, he pretty much lets his bat do the talking.What reasons have you given sohum, of Sachin being a sportsman? Please, let's hear them. I haven't seen them, but it is very possible I have missed them. Exactly what has Sachin done to qualify him as a sportsman, like Gilchrist, or Lara.
I've described all your videos in my post, as well.I'm not sure if I had put the right video, but I'll describe it.
There was no evidence of "points/waves his bat at umpire". If he had done it ostentatiously at all, rather than from momentum, it would have been clearly obvious. This is the part I argue that you are making up. Besides, do you think he is so stupid as to waste a referral if he thinks he didn't hit it?It was Prasad v Tendulkar, hits Tendulkar on the back leg. He points / waves his bat at umpire, given out anyway (I guess this umpire decided not to believe Tendulkar or w/e). Tendulkar calls for referral, decision of umpire is upheld.
Adam Gilchrist is the only batsman in world cricket to consistently walk. MS Dhoni followed along the same routes but I seem to remember a case recently when he didn't walk. I can assure you that almost all other batsmen agree with the "it all evens out theory".Now here's another one. Murali v Tendulkar. Tendulkar sweeps the ball, the ball hits the back of the bat, Jayawardene takes an excellent catch. Given not out by the umpire because he couldn't see the back of the bat. Tendulkar stands there (doesn't point his bat at this occasion), Jayawardene refers it.
Did you read the above? Calling Sachin out on not being a sportsman because he doesn't walk is ridiculous and delusional. Less than 1% of cricketers walk, so you might as well say that there are no sportsmen in cricket. Even when it was a "gentleman's game" people didn't walk.And replays show, and as Tendulkar should have known (if you've ever played leather ball cricket) that the ball had hit the bat. No question of a bat-pad or pad-bat issue there, which I completely agree with you, is a difficult decision to make for even the player.
You don't get it, do you? I did not see any "waving the bat around" even in the footage you provided, regardless of the rules.Which you won't ever be seeing till either an exception is made, or the rules are changed.
I argue that anyone other than Gilchrist walked consistently. Are you going to say that Gilchrist is the only sportsman in the game of cricket? Read my comments a couple of lines up.Just because others do it, doesn't mean Sachin should, now does it? Did Gilchrist ever do it? Nope. Did Lara ever do it? Nope. Did Jayawardene ever do it? Nope (well to my knowledge anyway)
You get the point. Those that are considered sportsman don't do it.
You are singling Tendulkar out. It is obvious to everyone on PC that you will single Tendulkar out on almost any issue that comes up. So don't even pretend that you don't have an agenda against him.Now let me make one thing clear. I'm not singling Tendulkar out at all. The reason we're here is the comment made that Tendulkar is a sportsman.
That's okay, with time it'll be easy to remember.Oh yeh, I'm sorry, I forgot you know everything.
Thanks Blady but yeah All time best is Punter
Punter knows how to do it and I am sure that he would be named equal to Bradman one day
Punter knows how to do it and I am sure that he would be named equal to Bradman one day