Whats idiotic about ‘the hundred’? I am sure if its popularity gains momentum the Indians will exploit same for financial gain.
The Hundred
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NILAYSHAH60
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This format would more so suit mediocre players just like the T10 does. ODIs are dying, most of the players no longer want to grind it out in the Test format and this format further adds to the destruction of this sport.
Bevab
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For starters calling wickets 'outs', whatever weird rule they came up with for crossing over and T16.4. Could have easily invested the same money into the Blast with a reorganization there and drawn far more interest and bang for the buck.
Also, does nearly every post of yours need to have a snide remark against Indian cricket? At this rate I'm inclined to believe you're just a disgruntled self-loathing Indian fan.
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Well they are trying to reinvent cricket in the times where the sport has become a mass factory of generating wealth. I give them that.
But I got to agree with Bevab and Nilay. These cringy techniques like swapping wickets for outs, just to over simplify things and get more attention from the commonere, is really a joke.
It might become a success or a dud. But the way they are proceeding clearly shows that the game of cricket is the last priority.
But I got to agree with Bevab and Nilay. These cringy techniques like swapping wickets for outs, just to over simplify things and get more attention from the commonere, is really a joke.
It might become a success or a dud. But the way they are proceeding clearly shows that the game of cricket is the last priority.
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wasteyouryouth
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The thing is this is the whole aim. Cricket has (aside from the India tour, a couple of T20s, the World Cup final and the first few years of IPL) been absent from free-to-air TV for 15+ years.
I believe there are dwindling numbers of recreational players, I wouldn't be surprised if the number of schools playing the sport has halved in the last 15 years. Also, the reason Kolpak players have been so successful is that there isn't the domestic talent to take these places. The Hundred is not just an attempt to cash in but possibly an attempt to head off an impending collapse of talent. There's players who will be playing now who were too young to remember the Ashes being on TV when it captured the imagination of the country. I think The Hundred is an attempt to bring in a new generation of fans.
Another example is Andrew Flintoff being the main host - he's got a successful TV career and is probably the only cricketer that people who don't watch cricket know (aside from a few who have been on dancing shows). It gives it a bit of star appeal that Rob Key or Ian Ward won't.
I still think it will be doomed to failure if they completely alienate the existing fanbase. But, I do wonder if some of these leaks about 'outs' instead of wickets aren't just intended to keep everyone talking about it. At the same time, wickets can be mean three different things, that is kind of confusing to someone who is new to the game.
CerealKiller
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I've been screaming this from the rooftops, but nobody listens
The only reason they came up with the new format is to find a loophole in their contract with Sky, and put the tournament on free-to-air TV, to spread the popularity of cricket in the UK.
I beg to differ, from what I gather with this format is its a totally different version to cricket, almost a new sport. That being said its highly likely this wouldnt affect test cricket etc......T20 cricket is/has been the true killer of ODI/T20!
Honestly I have matured over the couple years with my posts relating to Indian cricket, my main issue atm is that they destroy other teams (directly/indirectly) by poaching talent for the IPL while ensuring that no Indian cricketer participates in other leagues around the world. I can go on and on but I dont want, been there done that on numerous threads here.......if you require further clarity please private message me.
I do agree with your thoughts on the hundred but I think its so different that it could work alongside test and odi cricket and not destroy these formats like T20 has shown. I can see pumping the finance in the Vitality series may be better but lets face it no T20 league will bring in the finances like the IPL has, in a couple editions the Vitality tournament may possibly well run at a loss. Now if India allow their players to participate in the Vitality league or others around the world then it may prove to be financially rewarding.
I am going to respectfully disagree with a few of my Indian friends here who've posted their opinions, but -
I am not totally averse to the idea of "The Hundred". Even with T20's being almost 2 decades old as of now, cricket is still struggling to reach into the big "non cricketing nations" like USA, Germany, Russia, China, etc. Cricket continues to remain a sport that's played by a handful of nations and that needs a change as of a few decades before.
I like the simplified branding of "100 balls". There is room to experiment here where you either bowl 15 overs of 6 deliveries per over and a "10 delivery over", or like someone said here, you bowl 20 overs of 5 deliveries per over. Both of which sound interesting and has the potential to add a lot of entertainment. I am not sure what the exact intentions are behind this concept, but I am interested to see if this can take off and help cricket reach out into the non-cricketing nations who are so ingrained into other sports like soccer, baseball, basketball, etc. If cricket needs to fully expand and become a worldwide phenomenon, such simplifications are necessary.
I kinda wish ECB did what Mark Butcher was suggesting yesterday of "trying to accomodate the second half of the IPL for the English players per BCCI's request, and using it as a leverage to get BCCI to allow Indian players to take part in The Hundred". It would have been bombastic if ECB did this as the presence of Indian players in "The Hundred" will give a massive hype for the format in cricket's heartland (India). There's still time for negotiations...
I am not totally averse to the idea of "The Hundred". Even with T20's being almost 2 decades old as of now, cricket is still struggling to reach into the big "non cricketing nations" like USA, Germany, Russia, China, etc. Cricket continues to remain a sport that's played by a handful of nations and that needs a change as of a few decades before.
I like the simplified branding of "100 balls". There is room to experiment here where you either bowl 15 overs of 6 deliveries per over and a "10 delivery over", or like someone said here, you bowl 20 overs of 5 deliveries per over. Both of which sound interesting and has the potential to add a lot of entertainment. I am not sure what the exact intentions are behind this concept, but I am interested to see if this can take off and help cricket reach out into the non-cricketing nations who are so ingrained into other sports like soccer, baseball, basketball, etc. If cricket needs to fully expand and become a worldwide phenomenon, such simplifications are necessary.
I kinda wish ECB did what Mark Butcher was suggesting yesterday of "trying to accomodate the second half of the IPL for the English players per BCCI's request, and using it as a leverage to get BCCI to allow Indian players to take part in The Hundred". It would have been bombastic if ECB did this as the presence of Indian players in "The Hundred" will give a massive hype for the format in cricket's heartland (India). There's still time for negotiations...
Excellent post Sai! Some very good points made! I agree with you 100!
wasteyouryouth
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I might have posted this earlier in this thread or somewhere else.
I remembered a suggestion Michael Vaughan made a while back about having a T20 Cup in the style of the FA Cup. Straight knock-out. I think something like that, played over a month, games on free to air TV, would have been great. They could have a match every day and a smaller window could mean some more overseas talent.
32 teams - 18 counties, then you could throw in Scotland, the winners of the Irish Provinicial T20, Netherlands; some lesser European nations like Jersey, Denmark, Germany or just a load of minor counties.
This would expand the areas that have a team to support, rather than contract it to 8 cities/regions.
I'm pretty sure the Natwest Trophy used to be a straight knock out tournament. Those kind of tournaments, or those where there are significant knockout stages (football World Cup; 3 group games, 4 knock out matches to win it) are far more entertaining because there's more must win matches, more chances of an upset making a difference. It's why I find the league format for the last World Cup quite dull. It was held together by the fact England almost got knocked out and then had to basically win four matches in a row to survive.
I remembered a suggestion Michael Vaughan made a while back about having a T20 Cup in the style of the FA Cup. Straight knock-out. I think something like that, played over a month, games on free to air TV, would have been great. They could have a match every day and a smaller window could mean some more overseas talent.
32 teams - 18 counties, then you could throw in Scotland, the winners of the Irish Provinicial T20, Netherlands; some lesser European nations like Jersey, Denmark, Germany or just a load of minor counties.
This would expand the areas that have a team to support, rather than contract it to 8 cities/regions.
I'm pretty sure the Natwest Trophy used to be a straight knock out tournament. Those kind of tournaments, or those where there are significant knockout stages (football World Cup; 3 group games, 4 knock out matches to win it) are far more entertaining because there's more must win matches, more chances of an upset making a difference. It's why I find the league format for the last World Cup quite dull. It was held together by the fact England almost got knocked out and then had to basically win four matches in a row to survive.
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Aislabie
Test Cricket is Best Cricket
This is going to be a complete trashfire
wasteyouryouth
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I saw something interesting tweeted that said the tournament could be at a big risk if they had a Covid issue; as has happened four times in the last three weeks in England (major ones, not including Labuschagne and Neser having to isolate). If one team goes down it could completely disrupt the tournament.
Don't know if the test players will be too involved as I doubt they could replace the test side with as many competent players as the limited overs team.
Ed Smith
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The test side doesn't even have competent players, never mind replacements
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