The Silence Of The Lambs Mafia - Endgame - SK (Sulaiman7) WINS

[P Squared]

Sorry but I won't be able to contribute as much as I would like to, you can replace me @Varun

 

[barmyarmy]

This is the big decision to make. Being replaced now is disastrous.
You can give your opinion here at least. The game isn't going to last long if we get this wrong.

 

[P Squared]

I'd go for Sulaiman but I'm not gonna be online tomorrow and will probably miss the crucial lynching phase, which is why I think it would be better if I were replaced.

However Sulaiman's play has been strange, he was softclaiming a lot, sorta felt like he was trying to do something which he could use as a defense later on. Definitely sus, but that is upto my replacement now.

 

[Sulaiman7]

Ahh well, I tried my best but you won't see any defence coming from me now.

I'd go for Zhuorb, just not because of his doc claim but saying that he'd get the result of Surendar's investigation, he's likely to be killed at night though, you can't regret that. As Surendar's a confirmed cop now, with Don and barmy doing a well claim on being townies and especially Colin of being a pr, I'd go for Zhuorb. This is all what I've got.

Good luck town.

 

[Varun]

Sorry but I won't be able to contribute as much as I would like to, you can replace me

I don't think I have scope for replacements at this point of the game. Yash has the Spectator QT, otherwise he'd have been brought in.

How long will you be off?

 

[surendar]

Ahh well, I tried my best but you won't see any defence coming from me now.

I'd go for Zhuorb, just not because of his doc claim but saying that he'd get the result of Surendar's investigation, he's likely to be killed at night though, you can't regret that. As Surendar's a confirmed cop now, with Don and barmy doing a well claim on being townies and especially Colin of being a pr, I'd go for Zhuorb. This is all what I've got.

Good luck town.

Why is that you will see no defense? Usually if townies are put on edge of the sword, they will bounce back hard to prevent the happening. You forgot how Don fought back when I was going crazy in last game?

Above post means, you just have given up without clue on how to defend with you on Mafia side. Also the reason you went for Zhuorb - 'since Don & Colin are doing well on being townies especially with Colin being PR' is totally revealing that you know one of them is sure to be pretending as town. If Colin's PR is true, it will take us to one vanilla role in this set up. But you were not ready to believe earlier that there would be one vanilla but now you are ready to believe one Vanilla? Quoting your previous post.

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Let's take this into consideration, if Catherine and Barney are fake claims, then you think Miggs and Lamar are townie ? I don't see Ardelia Mapp being a townie if Barney and Catherine are fake claims, that's a fake claim too. What else do you can think of ? there's only 1 vanilla ? which there cannot be. Without vanillas, games go pretty unbalanced so I don't see this set-up to be vanilla-less..

Broken links there!

 

[Sulaiman7]

If Colin's PR is true, it will take us to one vanilla role in this set up

How would it exactly lead us to on vanilla in the game ?

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is totally revealing that you know one of them is sure to be pretending as town

I am not too positive around Don too, he also claimed to be a townie and so did I but the matter of fact is that I've been soft claiming as well from the start.

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Why is that you will see no defense? Usually if townies are put on edge of the sword, they will bounce back hard to prevent the happening. You forgot how Don fought back when I was going crazy in last game?

That's because I'm not a PR.

 

[Varun]

12 hours remaining.

 

[surendar]

How would it exactly lead us to on vanilla in the game ?

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So if Colin's PR claim is true, then we have 4 power roles( 2 cop + 1 doc + 1 governor ) for town + 2 Mafia - means, only one left goes to Vanilla( among 3 vanilla claims at this point between you, PS and Don ) .

As much as Zhuorb's role is arguable whether he is from town or anti-town, but I tend to believe that he was the obvious one to protect me otherwise which I would have been victim last night easily ahead of Yash. Like we discussed some pages back, mafia being a doc is not sounding logical which makes me to believe that doc exists as separate PR.

'You know, we get a lot of detectives here, but I must say I can't ever remember one as attractive' - This dialogue from Chilton is when Clarice is approaching Lecter for investigation. So I am kind of believing doctor's claim to be true at this point.

 

[ved_]

Lynch:Sulaiman7
I think that lynching a vanilla claim today would be better than going for a PR. I think that Sulaiman has been acting a bit odd. The write-up has confirmed my presence in the game, it had been previously pointed out by don. Yet he chose to go for me. I think he's just looking for someone to lynch off in order to end the day.

 

[thedon5]

Lynch:Sulaiman7
I think that lynching a vanilla claim today would be better than going for a PR. I think that Sulaiman has been acting a bit odd. The write-up has confirmed my presence in the game, it had been previously pointed out by don. Yet he chose to go for me. I think he's just looking for someone to lynch off in order to end the day.

Nope, surendar misquoted me.

After going through the write-up again, my suspicions of Zhuorb have cooled somewhat.

I don't think your play was good, but because of the write-up I am willing to let it slide for now. The problem is, how reliable are the write-ups? There is no ruling out that they cover fake claims as well.

If I wanted to lynch someone off to end the day, I would've just gone with Sulaiman when Colin lynched him.

Now, I do find Sulaiman's behaviour very scummy, and I am not opposed to hammering in 6 odd hours. But I have to be weary, there is every chance two Mafia members have already put in a lynch and a misinformed townie has put in the other. I want to hear from everyone else before doing so, including Sulaiman hopefully as I find his 'defence' odd if anything.

Is it the end of the world if we don't lynch today? Nope, it should still be 3 vs 2. Because of this I won't hammer unless I'm completely sure.

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I didn't follow the last game and didn't know that. In light of this it's quite surprising that you're giving him a pass here.

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I seem to get told that every game regardless of my alignment...

I've always been a cautious player; especially in a setup like this where there are just too many unknowns and variables. I've not jumped on anyone since the day started. I've asked for other views, given mine and settled on the most likely person. I want to lynch correctly and I'm trying to minimise risk. Your sudden making-up-of-your-mind about me does make me feel like this is a mafia railroad job. Up to now you've not done anything scummy but I'll make up my mind on that based on how you proceed from here.

It was a completely different set-up and his play was very different (there isn't one defined newbie way of playing). Sulaiman knows what he's doing some times, other times he doesn't. I get the feeling here that he doesn't.

So you think it's a Mafia team of me and Sulaiman? Leaving one vanilla townie?

While we're bringing up previous games, this reminds me of your play in the previous Puddle Mafia with Aditya and Zhuorb... I know you know that it's easy to lynch off a townie if you just get a couple of people on your side to hammer the lynch. I wouldn't rule out you doing something similar here, especially with a lynch already on Sulaiman making it easier.

Also, as soon as I get suspicious of you, you subtly turn the attention onto me. You didn't all out do it, as you know it's a scummy move, but your subtleness seems to be a way of telling me to back off without getting too suspicious.

Another thing I see in this post is your misquoting of me, that is always a Mafia tactic. You pretend as if I'm only suspicious of you now. I've been suspicious of you the whole game and never fully accepted your claim.

I'm a bit skeptical as to why Zhuorb so easily changed his mind from Colin to Sulaiman too.

 

[surendar]

Nope, surendar misquoted me.

Which one, Don? I didn't get what you were referring to.

 

[Varun]

Vote count:

Sulaiman7 (3) - surendar, barmyarmy, Zhuorb
barmyarmy (1) - thedon5

Around 6 hours left in the day. 4 votes needed for a hammer.

 

[surendar]

So at this moment,

• Don has gone for Colin with suspect of Zhuorb or Colin
• I have gone for Sulaiman with suspect of Sulaiman or Colin
• Colin has gone for Sulaiman with suspects of Sulaiman/Don/Zhuorb
• Sulaiman believes Zuhorb as Mafia as Don and Colin has played well of being a townie.
• PS believes Sulaiman as Mafia, no strong suspects from his last few posts but he has strong belief on Colin as town.
• Zuhorb has gone for Sulaiman with suspect of Colin being a mafia.

 

[barmyarmy]

Well unless P Squared is replaced or thedon changes his mind we can't get a lynch.