WC 2011- Should it be organized in Pakistan?

[King Cricket]

If Pakistian is not safe, neither is India. India was the last country to have major terrorist attack. India borders Pakistan so it is easier for terrorists to get access. I wouldn't trust the Indian security forces with my golf clubs let alone my life. Look at the way they cocked up dealing with the recent terrorist attacks. If they want somewhere safe, West Indies, New Zealand, Australia etc are countries which would be safer, hell, I would prefer Bangladesh. India and Pakistan are pretty much in the same boat, the only difference being India is meant to be slightly more democratic and less corrupt.

In no way I am trying to be condecending, but if you were a bit older and looked at it in a bit more of a rational way, instead of national pride blinding you, you would see this.

Before India I think it was England, wasn't it? 7/7? Then the Heathrow airport case? If India isn't safe neither is England. Yeah, I know, the bombs in Heathrow were found out before they exploded- but why should the bombs be there? In an intl airport like Heathrow? Why? England is such vulnerable to terror-attacks? English security forces are so dumb? I wouldn't trust the English security forces with my golf clubs let alone my life. America had 9/11- the biggest terrorist attack in the world ever- does that mean US is an unsafe place? England had 9/11 and the Heathrow airport case- does that mean England is an unsafe place? No, that doesn't. We cannot just label a country unsafe for just one major terror-attack. Terrorism is a global problem. And what is more imp, after 26/11- NOT A SINGLE BLAST HAS HAPPENED IN WHOLE INDIA whereas on the other hand blasts are happening everyday in Pakistan.

India borders Pakistan so it is easier for terrorists to get access.

Wait a minute. China also borders Pakistan- then China is also an unsafe place.: Bhutan, Nepal- they all border Pakistan- so they are unsafe places according to you. India borders Pakistan all right, but you should keep in mind that the Indian security forces guard those borders.

 

[Highlander999]

Yeah, I will admit London was not safe after the London Tube Bombings. I wouldn't have been too happy wondering around there. Same with 9/11, I am sure you are aware with all the publicity that surrounded it with celebrities refusing to fly in America.

Also Britain, along with America is regarded is meant to have one of the best security forces/army's/Special Ops in the world which is why there has only been one successful attack on London from the terrorists since the IRA (???)

You have to take into context, that the India attacks were very recent, whilst the Tube Bombings were a few years ago now. The terrorists in Pakistan are specifically targetting India, which is why somewhere like China is safer (also who would ever mess with China and their security/political system? )

 

[mukund_nadkarni]

The terrorists in Pakistan are specifically targetting India, which is why somewhere like China is safer

Yeah let's take the World Cup to China!:rtfl

 

[Themer]

Links please.......

BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Police die in India rebel attack

Thar be a link to it.

 

[Chetan0304]

Right tom but who knows what they do in future, because BCCI is much more powerful than you think and India is still considered as a host for the WC.

The intelligence did fail but hope you are aware with the techniques/plans how the 9 were killed and 1 was caught alive who now is a prime source and proof who has opened the involvement and the training camps in Pak was their learning grounds

 

[King Cricket]

So, let us wait. Let's see whether 26/11 becomes the last major terror-attack in Indian soil. Time will say. This year is very important for India. If no more blasts happen this year- then India will again become a "safe" place. (It is absolutely safe now, but some people are still doubtful) India will prove them wrong- I am confident. Go India!

 

[Themer]

So, let us wait. Let's see whether 26/11 becomes the last major terror-attack in Indian soil. Time will say. This year is very important for India. If no more blasts happen this year- then India will again become a "safe" place. (It is absolutely safe now, but some people are still doubtful) India will prove them wrong- I am confident. Go India!

To be honest I don't think anyone can be confident that no more terrorist attacks will take place but I think that terrorist attacks will decrease in the subcontinent and the world over the coming years as there has been widespread reports that those who mastermind these attacks are begining to run low on supporters, especially as terrorist camps in Afganistan where most are trained have shown that they would appear to have fatal diseases including the Black Death but I've now gone waaaay off topic

 

[Highlander999]

So, let us wait. Let's see whether 26/11 becomes the last major terror-attack in Indian soil. Time will say. This year is very important for India. If no more blasts happen this year- then India will again become a "safe" place. (It is absolutely safe now, but some people are still doubtful) India will prove them wrong- I am confident. Go India!

Definetly, even if terrorists try and attack, but are foiled, I would still consider India a safe place as it proves that the security forces are now doing their job.

To be honest I don't think anyone can be confident that no more terrorist attacks will take place but I think that terrorist attacks will decrease in the subcontinent and the world over the coming years as there has been widespread reports that those who mastermind these attacks are begining to run low on supporters, especially as terrorist camps in Afganistan where most are trained have shown that they would appear to have fatal diseases including the Black Death but I've now gone waaaay off topic

Hmmm the Black Death and cricket. THREAD EVOLUTION!!!!!!!!

 

[Precambrian]

If Pakistian is not safe, neither is India. India was the last country to have major terrorist attack. India borders Pakistan so it is easier for terrorists to get access. I wouldn't trust the Indian security forces with my golf clubs let alone my life. Look at the way they cocked up dealing with the recent terrorist attacks. If they want somewhere safe, West Indies, New Zealand, Australia etc are countries which would be safer, hell, I would prefer Bangladesh. India and Pakistan are pretty much in the same boat, the only difference being India is meant to be slightly more democratic and less corrupt.

In no way I am trying to be condecending, but if you were a bit older and looked at it in a bit more of a rational way, instead of national pride blinding you, you would see this.

Who is then?

London is no more safe following the bombings of 05, though since then there have hardly been such instances to their credit.

And India is atleast 500 times bigger than the carrot Island, and shares boundaries with Pakistan, China, Bangladesh etc all who have proven records of cross-border terrorism in India. Sorry but you may claim that you may not trust with your golf clubs, but the same forces were relied up 100% by the touring England team without any problems, so did Shane Warne, Smith etc when a bomb went off in their home town in the IPL. And a billion and more live in India and continue to live, including yours truly without mind numbing fear.

I'd put my money on getting mobbed/knived in the seedy suburbans of England than being bombed in India.

 

[sifter132]

If you believe the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade here are their current travel warnings for tourists in order of least worrying to most:

Be Alert To Your Own Security:
*New Zealand
*Ireland

Exercise Caution:
*United Kingdom

High Degree of Caution:
*South Africa
*Jamaica (on behalf of the West Indies - Trinidad & Tobago is same rating too)
*Bangladesh (Reconsider Your Need to Travel to Chittagong Hills Tracts region)
*Kenya (Reconsider Your Need to Travel to Kisumu and the Nairobi suburbs of Kibera, Mathare, Kasirani and Eastleigh as well as Border regions with Ethiopia, Sudan and Somalia)

Reconsider Your Need to Travel:
*India (Do Not Travel to Jammu and Kashmir)
*Pakistan (Do Not Travel to Baluchistan, North-West Frontier Province, federally-administered tribal areas, border areas with Afghanistan and India)
*Sri Lanka (Do Not Travel to Northern and eastern areas (including Wilpattu and Yala National Parks))

Do Not Travel:
*Zimbabwe


So there you go. A World Cup hosted In India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka doesn't look so hot right now. But not as bad as one in Zimbabwe I guess.

Seems Australia & New Zealand would be the safest place to host, followed closely by the UK & Ireland.

 

[Precambrian]

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Give those to the guys queuing up to play in the IPL.

 

[King Cricket]

The only unsafe place in India is Kashmir. Other than that India is a completely safe place. If you guys visit India please don't go to Kashmir. It is full of terrorists and religious extremists. There, nobody knows what will happen in the next instance. But other than Kashmir India is as safe a place as Australia or Kiwiland. Go to anywhere in India, enjoy the scenic beauty, nobody will do anything to you- but please, please don't go to Kashmir- Yeah, I'm saying this.

 

[Sheehani]

Not really. India is as safe now as it was a year ago, before 26/11 and those other attacks. Four and a half months have passed since 26/11- not a single blast, no nothing. The news of terrorists related to that attack and other attacks being detained by the Indian police are coming everyday. But sadly, the same cannot be said for Pakistan

The mere fact that the attacks happened mean that India isn't safe. Also here is the current Australian Government's advice on travelling to India.

We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to India at this time because of the very high risk of terrorist activity by terrorists and militant groups. If you do decide to travel to India, you should exercise extreme caution.

Doesn't sound too safe. There is more found on this site if you are interested. Based on the information presented to me I would defineately reconsider having the World Cup in that region at the moment. It is a shame because it is such a passionate cricket community. Hopefully peace prevails and all the violence stops.

Travel Advice for India - Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade

 

[King Cricket]

The mere fact that the attacks happened mean that India isn't safe. Also here is the current Australian Government's advice on travelling to India.



Doesn't sound too safe. There is more found on this site if you are interested. Based on the information presented to me I would defineately reconsider having the World Cup in that region at the moment. It is a shame because it is such a passionate cricket community. Hopefully peace prevails and all the violence stops.

Travel Advice for India - Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade

What the Australian govt has adviced is partly right. Yeah, there are some terrorist activities going on in pak- occupied Kashmir and it's surrounding areas. That part of Kashmir does not belong to India and other than this India is completely safe- believe me.

The mere fact that the attacks happened mean that India isn't safe.

A very well-thought and intelligent logic I must say.
So according to you-

The mere fact that the 9/11 attacks happened in US mean that US isn't safe.
The mere fact that the 7/7 attacks happened in GB mean that GB isn't safe.
Wow!

I have said this earlier, and I'm saying it again- Terrorism is a global problem. We just can't label a country unsafe for just one/two major terrorist attack/s. This is ridiculous. Then the US, the UK, Russia, China- they all are unsafe places.

 

[Highlander999]

You're getting so wound up by national pride. It is the Aussie Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade's job to know this sort of information. They will have people out there, looking at everything including security plans. Anyway, looking at this site by the government, I can see why the Aussie Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade is saying this. I didn't know so many bombs happened in Indis last year. I think myself and my gf might not go there now in the summer. Looks like it is Australia instead. Much safer

India travel advice

And if you are too lazy to read that, this'll sum it up:

From 26-29 November 2008 terrorists attacked a number of sites in Mumbai, including luxury hotels, a railway station and a restaurant.

- Over 190 people were killed and more than 325 were injured. British Nationals were among the casualties.
- On 30 October 2008, 11 bombs exploded in Assam. Areas affected were Guwahati and the Barpeta, Bongaigoan and Kokrajhar districts. 77 people were killed and over 300 were injured.
- On 21 October 2008, a bomb exploded in Imphal, Manipur killing 17 people and injuring many others.
- On 27 September 2008, a bomb exploded in New Delhi. Two people were killed and 24 were injured.
- On 13 September 2008 five bombs exploded in New Delhi, 30 people were killed and 90 were injured.
- On 26 July 2008 a series of bombs exploded in Ahmadabad, Gujarat and the surrounding area resulting in up to 49 fatalities and over a 100 injured.
- On 25 July 2008 there were a series of bomb blasts in Bangalore, South Eastern India resulting in at least two fatalities and many more injuries.
- On 13 May 2008, there were a series of bomb blasts in Jaipur, western India, resulting in 60 fatalities and 200 casualties.

I am all for the next World Cup being in Australia until India/Pakistan appears slightly more safe