Who to open for England?

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Piece by Alec Stewart today, I've reduced it a bit as apparently we're not supposed to put full copy and paste jobs in.

BBC Sport - Alec Stewart column: Life after Andrew Strauss

I have no doubt that Trott and Bell have the skills to succeed as openers, but why would you want to move them from a position where they have been exceptional performers and potentially weaken an area of the team that is functioning well?

My preference would be to choose someone from the county game. The selectors will no doubt have been sizing up potential Test openers for some time to allow for injuries and or loss of form, just as Jonny Bairstow and James Taylor were lined up as middle-order reinforcements.

The candidates at the top of the selectors' list will possibly be Hampshire's Michael Carberry and Yorkshire's Joe Root.

Carberry, who played a Test against Bangladesh in 2010 when Strauss was rested, has unfortunately struggled with injury and illness in recent times, but he is a proven player at domestic level and someone who I think can succeed at international level.


Potential England openers: First-class records this season

Joe Root (21)
Inns 22 Runs 937 HS 222* Ave 49.31

Michael Carberry (31)
Inns 18 Runs 514 HS 84* Ave 34.26

Varun Chopra (25)
Inns 25 Runs 843 HS 109 Ave 35.12

Nick Compton (29)
Inns 20 Runs 1,339 HS 236* Ave 89.26

Root has impressed for England Lions and did his chances no harm at all with a double hundred for Yorkshire against Hampshire in July. Players who can turn their centuries into "daddies" are the ones who will really catch the selectors' eyes because it shows they have the appetite and desire to score big runs.

Beyond Carberry and Root, a couple of others who could also be in the frame are Varun Chopra and Nick Compton .

Chopra is a player I have followed from his early days at Essex through to his current position at the top of the Warwickshire order in the first division.

He has really grown in stature since his move to Edgbaston, scoring back-to-back double hundreds at the start of last season and forcing his way into the England Lions side. He has been more solid than spectacular this summer but he understands his game a lot better now and at 25 he should be coming in to the most productive part of his career.
 
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Playing for Somerset definitely counts against Compton (as it did against Hildreth). I'm not sure I would make a number 3 open in India either. If I picked Compton I'd put Trott up to open (even if that did slow our R/R somewhat!).
Regarding Root I know there were some arguments in the other thread about "pick experience over youth" but Alastair Cook was brought in as a youngster on an India tour and didn't do too badly.
 
I think for the moment they need to think holistically. Having half the batting as "for the future" is not safe ground, especially if someone important is injured or out of form. And you should want the best possible opener anyway. It's always a cornerstone of strategy. So many other things will fall into place when the openers simply get the hard early runs out of the way.
 
Carberry for sure.
 
I know it's been a wet summer, but is it not a tad worrying that two of those guys don't even average more than 40 this year?
 
I read the same article yesterday. Personally I think that Carberry will get picked because he's played a test before, and has been consistent over the last few years. However I would rather see Root/Compton get picked as they, for me, are better batsmen. Or in Root's case, he has the potential to be at least as good as Cook has been over the last year.
 
I don't see how someone without a first class hundred this season can be in line for a test opening spot :noway
 
Given it's a tour of India, I'd be picking the guy who can play spin the best I imagine...as someone who has watched almost nothing of any of these guys, who might that be??
 
I'd go for Root. He had looked good when I've seen him, stats are good too. Carberry and Compton are options if England are looking for short term positions but Root is one for the future. Personally, this is what I'd do with the England test side:

1. Cook C
2. Trott
3. Bell
4. KP (yes I'd have him back in the team)
5. Bairstow
6. Bopara
7. Prior WK
8. Broad
9. Swann
10. Finn
11. Anderson

Trott's had to come in almost as an opener in recent times anyway, so why not move him up the order? Especially since the series is on the batting wickets of India? If he can handle the moving ball in England then I'm sure he can handle the below average opening bowlers of India.

KP needs to be back in the side, that is painstakingly obvious. I know the dressing room is anti-KP at the moment but if they got together, sorted the problems out, aired and grievances, than the team could function again as a professional unit.

Another advantage of moving Trott up the order, gets the selectors a chance to play both Bairstow (best young batsman in the country) and Bopara at the same time. Ravi's bowling is more than simply useful and although his batting has been up and down of late, I think he'd do well with the right backing and without the constant "you might not be in the team soon" talk that always follows him.

AND, if Bopara's batting really doesn't come along, then Taylor can easily slot in at 6.

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Given it's a tour of India, I'd be picking the guy who can play spin the best I imagine...as someone who has watched almost nothing of any of these guys, who might that be??

I can't think of any England batsman especially adept at playing spin, apart from Bell. But I'm not overly worried about Indian's spinners. I'm not sure if Harbhajan will be playing and with the retirement of Kumble, there is no one truly special.
 
I'm not sure Carberry is that high up in the frame, especially given those batting figures are from division two. I've no idea who they'd go for, I think they'd go Trott if KP comes back, but that is a big if.

If we get a new opener, I think it'd be Root or Chopra. I'd go Chopra, just a bit more experienced.
 
Love Compton, but it's Joe Root for me.

My Test XI for Tour de India:

1. Root
2. Cook*
3. Trott
4. Pietersen (5)
5. Bell
6. Morgan (Never gonna happen though)
7. Prior
8. Broad (3)
9. Swann (4)
10. Anderson (1)
11. Finn (2)
 
None of them at a guess. Although opening ability to play spin is a bit less important.

I've watched Root a bit, Moves his feet quite well, however variations of speed have got him in trouble a few times from slower bowlers.

He would be my pick though.

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Love Compton, but it's Joe Root for me.

My Test XI for Tour de India:

1. Root
2. Cook*
3. Trott
4. Pietersen (5)
5. Bell
6. Morgan (Never gonna happen though)
7. Prior
8. Broad (3)
9. Swann (4)
10. Anderson (1)
11. Finn (2)

Haha I love that you've put a (never going to happen) after Morgan but included Pietersen in the side.
 

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