PS3: WINNER of 1st UCC League - CHAMAN (Manager, Team Dublin Devil)

[kushari]

@kushari
I will just need clarification on the Slow Ball Bouncer on the Spin Bowler :
I`m not exactly sure which one your referring to here , I believe its the one where the Ball almost bounces twice before reaching the Stumps.

This can only be achieved by Bowling the Drift and Flight Ball very Early release. Why I`m asking is I do enjoy the Spin Bowling , but are very afraid of even selecting the short ball when I bowl the Drift&Flight Ball , as it can easily be seen as cheating/unsporting . But there is a "normal" (if you can call it that) Short Ball with the drift and flight Pitching between 5&6 meters , and then the one that is even more short (around 6-8 meters from the wickets.

People should be using discretion when evaulating this type of Ball , as I dont want to end up only allowed to bowl full and good length with the spinners.

I hope you catch my train of thought here. And I also believe that Patch2 will eliminate alot of the opportunities for unsportsmanlike conduct , but we first need to test it out to be sure.

Buddy have a look at this video posted by @Solomon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6mxbGNxDJ0

He captured the video during his 2nd Inning bowling against Jharkhand Heroes in the Ranji League. You can see the balls are drifting & looping like crazy, and though not impossible but it is extremely hard to tackle balls like these. Now these kind of bowling is allowed. As it is not bouncing almost twice before reaching to the batsman. So yes, only the Ball which almost bounces twice before reaching the Stumps are frowned upon, and I have requested all the managers to play with real Sportsman Spirit. Winning and Loosing is very important, but not at the cost of using unfair means.

 

[lion100lion]

@kushari
1) What are the dress codes for all the teams ?
2) I would like to suggest v cash awards to the winner of the tournament, Fair play award and winner of each match.
For example, you take 1000 v cash (not a big amount !) from everyone.
Total earnings = 1000*10 = 10,000
The winner of Tournament will get 3500 v cash and Fair play award will be 1500 v cash
So, v cash left = 10,000 - (3500 + 1500) = 5000
Each winner (i.e. of each match) will get 40 v cash. Since there are 90 matches, so Total expenditure here = 90 * 40 = 3600 vcash (You can pay this amount after every round)
So, we remain with 1400 v cash. It's distribution will be as follows :-
Winner of Play off 1 :- 800 v cash
Winner of Eliminator :- 300 v cash
Winner of Play off 2 :- 300 v cash

Also, if the team want to pay more than 1000 v cash, the v cash left will be your profit for your hard work.

Note that,
The v cash system will make this tournament more exciting and different from others.

 

[RIZZYX]

The Lahore Badhshas (Official Team) had their first couple of warm up games last night firstly against Dublin Devils (chaman82) and then against Wellington Warriors (solomon).

We only managed 103/9 (After being almost 60 for 3 in first 6 against pacers) from the 20 overs against Dublin thanks to some deadly spin (and laggy/glitchy conditions) from Mishra/Shaikar Dhawan/Shaun Marsh/Sehwag who combined bowled 14 overs for about 40 runs with 7 wickets. (Unsporting as per the rules using low skilled bowlers) but to be fair if he had any other genuine spinner or all rounder spinner then the outcome would have been the same, I guess we have to contend with facing batsman as spinners as the many squads do not have the flexibility to use more than 1 or 2 genuine spinners/all rounders. Strangely the Lahore innings saw 6 wickets lost due to glitch and about 6 wickets that were not given out despite being bowled. Lahore were in the hunt having Dublin 50/4, but a 50+ partnership from Dhoni and Bailey saw them home with 5 wickets and just over 5 overs to spare handing Dublin a comfortable win in the end and manager Rizzyx's first loss in PlanetCricket league official/unofficial games.


Against Wellington it was pure spin from the outset and we were demolished for 75/10 but managed to win bowling out CSK for 30.

First time I have played against such spin, really did not know how to play them, think I improved a little against this type of bowling towards the end of the game with Solo, but still need more practice.

My comments on this mystery bowling with spinners, anything bowled using the 'X' and 'Triangle' buttons with the spinners are fine, regardless of the pace of the delivery.

The questionable aspect of the spinners comes in with the use of the 'O' button, especially those deliveries that land below the 6m mark on the pitch map.

I think Solo was fine in this regard, did not pay attention to pitch map against Chaman but will pay attention next time.

At first I thought that's it, my time is up I won't be able to compete with this kind of stuff, but then bowling against Solo, my own spin bowling took a positive turn.

Hat's off to Solo though, for coming up with something to bring him back with a bang. He is a big contender now. Chaman is even more dangerous than ever i have to really figure out how to play the spin better if i am going to come across him later in the IPL.

 

[kushari]

The Lahore Badhshas (Official Team) had their first couple of warm up games last night firstly against Dublin Devils (chaman82) and then against Wellington Warriors (solomon).

First time I have played against such spin, really did not know how to play them, think I improved a little against this type of bowling towards the end of the game with Solo, but still need more practice.

My comments on this mystery bowling with spinners, anything bowled using the 'X' and 'Triangle' buttons with the spinners are fine, regardless of the pace of the delivery.

The questionable aspect of the spinners comes in with the use of the 'O' button, especially those deliveries that land below the 6m mark on the pitch map.

I think Solo was fine in this regard, did not pay attention to pitch map against Chaman but will pay attention next time.

At first I thought that's it, my time is up I won't be able to compete with this kind of stuff, but then bowling against Solo, my own spin bowling took a positive turn.

Hat's off to Solo though, for coming up with something to bring him back with a bang. He is a big contender now. Chaman is even more dangerous than ever i have to really figure out how to play the spin better if i am going to come across him later in the IPL.

Yes during the 1st few weeks of the DBC release, I thought spinners are going to be useless in this game, as no matter what I do, I cant get them to turn the ball, but now it is quite obvious, playing spinner is much much more difficult than playing Super Fast Bowlers. We have all gone for the Fastest of fast bowlers during the auction, and most of us were no too exited about Spinner Draft, now I think the table has truly turned and it is the spinners who are going to rule the matches (Of course you still need to have some skill to bowl those LOOPY DRIFTING balls). Whoever can play spin better will going to be on Top, and those who cannot play Spin well (Like Me), will be decimated. But that's the challenge...Lets fight it out.

Edit: @RIZZYX Buddy if you dont mind, can you post the brief score of both the warm up matches here (Just Brief Score, not the score card), it will be fun if you can do but its OK if you cant.

 

[issue]

If lag in online matches is not there then loopy balls can be easily hit.....I tried to simulate and play a match with my bro.Its easy to hit them with two player offline matches even i reached 190 in 20 overs with all loopy spin bowling from my bro....problem comes in online games suddenly balls come more quicker or more slower than expected

 

[kushari]

If lag in online matches is not there then loopy balls can be easily hit.....I tried to simulate and play a match with my bro.Its easy to hit them with two player offline matches even i reached 190 in 20 overs with all loopy spin bowling from my bro....problem comes in online games suddenly balls come more quicker or more slower than expected

Lets wait for Patch-2 and see if the improvement makes any difference to these balls or not.

 

[RIZZYX]

I dont have any more details on scorecards, did not note them down.

I think Anwar top scored in both innings, 38 against Dublin and 15? Against Wellington.

Ajmal did not play against Dublin but was awsome against Wellington.

We went for a weaker batting line up.

1. Anwar
2. Hafeez
3. Kp
4. Abd
5. Morgan
6. Bopara
7. Bravo
8. Ajmal
9. Roach
10. Junaid
11. Adil

I really think in future seasons sqaud should be increased to 15 or 16 to allow more flexibility.

 

[kushari]

I dont have any more details on scorecards, did not note them down.

I think Anwar top scored in both innings, 38 against Dublin and 15? Against Wellington.

Ajmal did not play against Dublin but was awsome against Wellington.

We went for a weaker batting line up.

1. Anwar
2. Hafeez
3. Kp
4. Abd
5. Morgan
6. Bopara
7. Bravo
8. Ajmal
9. Roach
10. Junaid
11. Adil

I really think in future seasons sqaud should be increased to 15 or 16 to allow more flexibility.

Yes for Next Season, I will hold an auction for additional 20 Players (so 02 additional players for Each Team) from a Pool of remaining 30 Top International Players (10 Pacers / 10 Spinners & 10 Batsman)...You will be allowed to Bid for any 02 Players among the available 30.

 

[Solomon]

If lag in online matches is not there then loopy balls can be easily hit.....I tried to simulate and play a match with my bro.Its easy to hit them with two player offline matches even i reached 190 in 20 overs with all loopy spin bowling from my bro....problem comes in online games suddenly balls come more quicker or more slower than expected

@issue I might be wrong but I will just give my opinion about the balls coming in quicker and more slower than expected. Its not a glitch, its completely upon the bowler.

 

[Solomon]

The Lahore Badhshas (Official Team) had their first couple of warm up games last night firstly against Dublin Devils (chaman82) and then against Wellington Warriors (solomon).

We only managed 103/9 (After being almost 60 for 3 in first 6 against pacers) from the 20 overs against Dublin thanks to some deadly spin (and laggy/glitchy conditions) from Mishra/Shaikar Dhawan/Shaun Marsh/Sehwag who combined bowled 14 overs for about 40 runs with 7 wickets. (Unsporting as per the rules using low skilled bowlers) but to be fair if he had any other genuine spinner or all rounder spinner then the outcome would have been the same, I guess we have to contend with facing batsman as spinners as the many squads do not have the flexibility to use more than 1 or 2 genuine spinners/all rounders. Strangely the Lahore innings saw 6 wickets lost due to glitch and about 6 wickets that were not given out despite being bowled. Lahore were in the hunt having Dublin 50/4, but a 50+ partnership from Dhoni and Bailey saw them home with 5 wickets and just over 5 overs to spare handing Dublin a comfortable win in the end and manager Rizzyx's first loss in PlanetCricket league official/unofficial games.


Against Wellington it was pure spin from the outset and we were demolished for 75/10 but managed to win bowling out CSK for 30.

First time I have played against such spin, really did not know how to play them, think I improved a little against this type of bowling towards the end of the game with Solo, but still need more practice.

My comments on this mystery bowling with spinners, anything bowled using the 'X' and 'Triangle' buttons with the spinners are fine, regardless of the pace of the delivery.

The questionable aspect of the spinners comes in with the use of the 'O' button, especially those deliveries that land below the 6m mark on the pitch map.

I think Solo was fine in this regard, did not pay attention to pitch map against Chaman but will pay attention next time.

At first I thought that's it, my time is up I won't be able to compete with this kind of stuff, but then bowling against Solo, my own spin bowling took a positive turn.

Hat's off to Solo though, for coming up with something to bring him back with a bang. He is a big contender now. Chaman is even more dangerous than ever i have to really figure out how to play the spin better if i am going to come across him later in the IPL.

@RIZZYX imp observation pointed out by you. It is important that the respective team members don't bowl slow and short (< 6m) which spoils the spirit of the batting opposition. Its just difficult to keep tab of those but the bowling team can keep this in mind.

 

[kushari]

URGENT: Kindly Vote from below 02 Options:

@arjwiz @Solomon @valerian140 @chaman82 @honu999 @Acid Burn @RIZZYX @issue @francisjery

Guys need your Advice and Vote on the below 02 Options regarding bowling with any player except for the 06 Chosen as Main Bowlers (03 Pacers / 01 Spinner / 02 All Rounders).

Option-1:
Lets allow Maximum 02 Overs for Non Regular bowlers to bowl for T20 and Maximum 05 Overs for ODI Matches. (Non Regular bowlers will include each and everyone except the 06 Players chosen as Main Bowlers during the Draft, and yes these Non Regular bowlers will include even Legend Players like Sanath Jayasuriya/Saurav Gangully/Sachin Tendulkar etc and all the player chosen as Batsman during the Draft, like Dwayne Smith, Suresh Raina, Chris Gayle, Glenn Maxwell etc).

Option-2:
Lets allow everyone to bowl without any restriction whatsoever. This will mean if you want you can even bowl with 05 Batsman in a match if you like.


My Vote is for Option-1

Request the remaining 09 Managers to cast their Vote ASAP. The Option which will get Maximum Vote will be final, and no exception will be made for any managers or players.

 

[francisjery]

My vote is for option - 2

Using the batsman to bowl depends on the match situation. We could have seen Sachin, Sanath or Raina bowling ten overs sometime but not regulary. So choosing the bowler depends on the situation of the match.

 

[Solomon]

Option 1

 

[arjwiz]

Option 2 without a doubt. I don't think such things should even be considered after the draft is done. Saurav, Sanath, Sachin are all fantastic bowlers and must be allowed to bowl if needed.

 

[Solomon]

@kushari my opinion is to keep restrictions only for batsmen who doesn't ball regularly. Anwar, younis khan, Warner, Mike hussey, Gilchrist, shikhar Dhawan, etc. Make it mandatory to pock 4 bowlers in the squad. Let the manager allocate the quota of overs. on a given day sachin (against Australia) ganguly (against Pakistan) troubled the batsmen and were amongst the wickets and have bowled their complete overs