World Test Championship Finals - India vs Australia @ Oval

[Fenil]

I'd guess it's because a test in England is the most likely to be sold out irrespective of which country plays.

The table toppers or the defending champion getting the honour of hosting it could work but there's the issue of scheduling around that as always. I don't think you can play cricket in Australia in June for instance. Organising a test with limited time after getting confirmation of who is the table topper is also a bit difficult. Just one of many flaws that exists with the WTC (I've warmed up to it a bit though, if we are to have a test competition in the sea of T20 leagues this may well be the compromise).

Fair point. I guess Australia would be the perfect place too for it then but then again for the June problem, surely ICC can work their way around to squeeze in 5 days in the calendar for the host country? Doesn't have to be June...

 

[issue]

NoHit & choker joker should be coached under lord shardul as batting coach , still joker chokers don't listen as usual just cheers on others milestones lol

 

[Bevab]

Doesn’t have to be in June though. You can always start the new cycle in June, but have the final played whenever it’s convenient. Sure, it'd be weird to have the final after the new cycle has already started, but it’s cricket, things are bound to be weird.

Fair point. I guess Australia would be the perfect place too for it then but then again for the June problem, surely ICC can work their way around to squeeze in 5 days in the calendar for the host country? Doesn't have to be June...

It'll again come down to the logistics of scheduling. If it is to be in Australia for instance, you'd have to shoehorn it in around their summer when there is a ground available for the five days of the game, the few before for preparing it and a couple after to get it back ready for whatever is next. You'd also have to ensure that the two finalists are available to play in the same period which is easier said than done. If it was Australia being a finalist for instance, they may have to get one of their touring sides to give up on one test. If it was say New Zealand who qualified and the result is losing an Indian test that may result in a loss of revenue and souring relations with the BCCI, would they still proceed with it? If it's two other neutral teams and unless it's India, how realistic is it that they'll fill up the stadium for one day let alone five? The West Indies barely attracted any eyeballs for instance when they toured Australia last summer and this was with the home side playing.

Of course all of this can be solved if all parties involved were absolutely interested and passionate about the whole WTC concept. I doubt that is the truth when us fans are hardly enthusiastic about the WTC. Why put all of the extra effort to organise a one-off game in a country that may not even want it eventually jeopardising the T20 carousel when you can play it safe with a test in England in a fixed timeframe?

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Jeez Cummins is turning into Bumrah with these no balls.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Good fightback from India

 

[Bevab]

Good fightback from India

Makes it even more frustrating that none of the top four contributed much after getting a start. Just one of them getting to a fifty would have made the current situation look a lot more threatening.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

One reason for England, you get more prime time Indian TV viewers.

 

[CerealKiller]

One reason for England, you get more prime time Indian TV viewers.

My beef is not specifically with England hosting it, but with the conditions being, by default, more favourable to non-Asian finalists

 

[Bevab]

My beef is not specifically with England hosting it, but with the conditions being, by default, more favourable to non-Asian finalists

This has been something I pointed out at the start of the concept. It's why I wish we had a three match series with each one in different conditions but that's even more unrealistic than having it in different countries every cycle. You'd simply favour the Aussie team in these conditions with their bowling attack let alone their batting superiority over India.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

My beef is not specifically with England hosting it, but with the conditions being, by default, more favourable to non-Asian finalists

This century in England only South Africa has won more than one series.

Australia, India, New Zealand all won one in six series, Sri Lanka one in five. So I'd say most teams have had fairly equal results. Asian teams have lost fewer series (10 losses for NZ, SA, Australia, 9 losses for Pak, SL, Ind).

Only West Indies and Pakistan haven't won, so I could see why you might see a disadvantage.

 

[icyman]

Does this doomsday prophesy have anything to do with the fact you're going to lose another final?

Personally, I don't think test cricket has been as enjoyable in years as what it is at the moment. The Ashes especially has me licking my lips to see what will happen when bazball meets the best seam attack in the world.

Then there's South Africa, New Zealand, Pakistan with strong test teams.

No!

Commenting the way I see it. Many have predicted the death of ODI, I feel it will go down to 40 overs.

For Tests, unless the battle between bat and ball is t worthy, the format's popularity will only decline.

As for India losing, I honestly didn't have any hopes in the 1st case.

 

[Bevab]

This century in England only South Africa has won more than one series.

Australia, India, New Zealand all won one in six series, Sri Lanka one in five. So I'd say most teams have had fairly equal results. Asian teams have lost fewer series (10 losses for NZ, SA, Australia, 9 losses for Pak, SL, Ind).

Only West Indies and Pakistan haven't won, so I could see why you might see a disadvantage.

There’s definitely some disingenuous stats at play here.

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No!

Commenting the way I see it. Many have predicted the death of ODI, I feel it will go down to 40 overs.

For Tests, unless the battle between bat and ball is t worthy, the format's popularity will only decline.

As for India losing, I honestly didn't have any hopes in the 1st case.

You’re aware that the current balance between bat and ball has been good to watch right? (excluding the Pakistani highways of course even if they were entertaining in their own way)

 

[wasteyouryouth]

There’s definitely some disingenuous stats at play here.

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You’re aware that the current balance between bat and ball has been good to watch right? (excluding the Pakistani highways of course even if they were entertaining in their own way)

It was a quick look. I'd say conditions do not play to the strengths to certain teams - hence the Ashwin problem. But with all the players India has, the fact they can't find someone to effectively replace Hardik Pandya is an India problem.

England have had to bring back a 36 year old retiree, our lack of spinners is an England
problem.

There's probably nowhere that wouldn't offer certain advantages and disadvantages. I'd say, with their pace bowlers Pakistan would actually be more suited to England than Asian conditions.


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meanwhile, what a screamer from Green. Check Cummos left boot though.

 

[Bevab]

Can’t complain about that, Rahane has been living precariously for a large part of that innings.

 

[CerealKiller]

This century in England only South Africa has won more than one series.

Australia, India, New Zealand all won one in six series, Sri Lanka one in five. So I'd say most teams have had fairly equal results. Asian teams have lost fewer series (10 losses for NZ, SA, Australia, 9 losses for Pak, SL, Ind).

Only West Indies and Pakistan haven't won, so I could see why you might see a disadvantage.

That’s statistics against England in England though, not really relevant for this match.
Australia or New Zealand would like these conditions more than India and Pakistan, obviously.

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

Didn’t expect to see a r/soccer type of comment here.

Spurs have made plenty of shakeups since they last won a trophy, look at how many managers they’ve cycled through and how many players have been bought/sold, all of differing playing styles. If anything a little bit of sensible planning and continuity would have helped the club.

I don’t even think RCB qualify for this, they’ve changed their internal structure with Hesson as the man behind the scenes, they’ve finally changed their captain and have been focusing on getting more established bowlers alongside more unproven domestic talents instead of plumping for the same recognised names like in the past. There’s only so much you can do when you have a Kohli taking up a vast majority of the salary cap.

India as pointed out have been quite unique. Numbers three, four and five are still here and the same in 2023 in a big match, Rohit’s still around in some capacity as are Shami, Ashwin, Umesh and Jadeja from way back then. I’ve never thought of it this way but whoever pointed out that the team needs an overhaul is spot on, they’ve grown stale and have been mostly sticking with similar tactics in pressure situations.

It was me who brought this up about shake up and thanks for replying on the Spurs as I do not follow football/soccer and have had no answer.