Afridi - Brainless Slogger or Marvellous Hitter?

Mindless or Brilliant?

  • Mindless

    Votes: 42 71.2%
  • Brilliant

    Votes: 17 28.8%

  • Total voters
    59
Afridi is really a mindless idiot.For the sake of Pakistan cricket,drop crap Abdul Razzaq,Shahid Afridi & Imran Farhat from the test team & replace them with people like Yasir Arafat,Shahid Yousuf & Asim Kamal who have been doing well in domestic cricket for years.Danish Kaneria also needs to be swapped by one guy amongst Mansoor Amjad,Abdul Rehman,Tariq Mahmood,Tahir Khan & Saqlain Mushtaq(provided he is fit & in form).
 
Shoaib87 said:
Afridi is really a mindless idiot.For the sake of Pakistan cricket,drop crap Abdul Razzaq,Shahid Afridi & Imran Farhat from the test team & replace them with people like Yasir Arafat,Shahid Yousuf & Asim Kamal who have been doing well in domestic cricket for years.Danish Kaneria also needs to be swapped by one guy amongst Mansoor Amjad,Abdul Rehman,Tariq Mahmood,Tahir Khan & Saqlain Mushtaq(provided he is fit & in form).
You sound like a Pakistani selector of yesteryear. Dropping players as if they are leaves in autumn.
 
ZoraxDoom said:
Alright, my turn:

Afridi is fabulous. Why do we like him? Same reasons we like India or England. The personalities clash, from friendly and amiable people, to downright low down and do-anything-to-win kinds, to charming to cunning and sly. Afridi is all of these, his personality draws you into wanting to listen to him, into watching him bowl and field, chattering with the batters. He could sledge you one minute, run to your aid the next, then scuff up the pitch or ball and claim innocence. In this day and age of walking and polietness and fining for over-appealing, he is a breath of fresh air to watch. He also brings in enthusiasm, never shutting up in the field, consistantly clapping, and sometimes he just looks cool and unruffled, like King Viv or Steve Waugh, like he has everything in control, to nonchalent and almost unamused by what's going on, like he has better things to do. He's a mixed bag.
Then you go to his batting. it's fabulous. Again, comparisions with your favourite team. Heck, he symbolises Pakistan for christs sake. Brilliant, talented, stunning and marvellous to ugly, ungamely, horrid, and downirght frustrating. His batting is fantastic, effortless, so brilliant and amazing to watch when on form. But at the same time, you feel he is wasting away, doesn't care about the team's situation, just playing for himself or would rather be elsewhere. That's what makes him great to watch, he may get out for a duck, but then club and 25 ball century the next.
Now lets look at the brainless aspect. The fact that people say he is selfish, stupid, incapable of doing nothing but slogging.
Did you know, he always wanted to just bat at 5, build an innings, and bowl some spin? That's what he wanted his role to be. But look at the decade or so he has given to Pakistani circket. He has batted everywhere, from opening to all the way down at 9. He has never got a specific spot in the team. He isn't either the allrounder, or the spin bowler, or the batsman who bowls a bit. He's all 3. No consistency. But if you look at his stats when he gets to bat at 5 and play the role he wants, they are better than his career. Just recently his outbursts of "No, I will not open!" are due to all the frustration he has stored up over the years. He has given everything he had, but has been in and out, up and down, round and round, etc. :p Bob Woolmer promised him he could be who he wants. It hasn't come true. He had a consistent spot for a while in Australia and did brilliantly. THen, he got shuffled up and down, and now is dropped.
All his years he has given everything to the team, it's about time he got something back. So he is not selfish.

So why does he slog so much? Why play idiotic, brain-dead shots?
He has admitted, everytime, he walks out to bat, he wants to play a long knock. He says to himself, "I'll bat out the first 10, 15, asses the pitch, then go after the ball". But when he gets out there, he loses it! he loves the game, he loves what he does. He can't help himself, he just gets the adrenaline pumping. He is a crowd pleaser, and seeing all the people, cheering for him, he feels and wants to gie them waht they want. Call that irresponsible, but it is part of the Afridi package. After all, to him, it's just a game, and that's what is his most appealing aspect. Because despite all the shuffles up and down, all the criticism, all the pressure, all the offield dram, when he walks out and takes guard, or goes out to field, he wants to have fun. The crowd wants to have fun. We play cricket to have fun. And in this age of technological analysis, jam-packed tours, and mental breakdowns, to see a cricketer who bats with all the entusiasm of a little kid and treats the game for what it is -a game-, one who wants to entertain fans all over, it's rare. That is Afridi. Fantastic and complex guy, fantstic and complex cricketer. He is immensely talented, and by God it's great to watch him. He is just a marvellous guy, marvellous cricketer. He epitomizes what cricket is. The ups, the downs, the scandals, the brilliance. He has all that romance of cricket to him, that school-boy dream at 16, that vicious scandal, the off-field incidents, yet the match winning innings, the crowd pleaser, the one that brings people all over the world to watch him. He's brilliant, he's Afridi.

For a moment, I thought you are talking about Sachin, Ponting, Lara, Dravid or Hayden. :rolleyes:

sohummisra said:
At 26, Afridi has plenty of time to 'mature' and become a top quality batsmen, provided he figures out how to harness his talent. That's one of the things going for him--he's still got so much time left in cricket.

What's his real age, though? :p
 
anandbatra said:
For a moment, I thought you are talking about Sachin, Ponting, Lara, Dravid or Hayden. :rolleyes:



What's his real age, though? :p
about 5-6 months older than his official age

Test Matches
SHAHID AFRIDI:

Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 W BB BowlAv 5w Ct St
vs INDIA
8 709 156 47.26 3 3 14 3/13 33.07 0 2 0

v West Indies
3 321 122 53.50 2 0 7 3/49 25.71 0 1 0

hes not so bad in tests if he puts his mind to it
 
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nightprowler10 said:
Because the spinner who can't bat takes wickets and doesn't give away many runs and as we know can defend. The other spinner who can occasionally bat is not good enough at the moment to be in the team.

you based all that on 2 games?
 
gambino said:
about 5-6 months older than his official age

Test Matches
SHAHID AFRIDI:

Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 W BB BowlAv 5w Ct St
vs INDIA
8 709 156 47.26 3 3 14 3/13 33.07 0 2 0

v West Indies
3 321 122 53.50 2 0 7 3/49 25.71 0 1 0

hes not so bad in tests if he puts his mind to it
I`d look beyond those stats.
The India-Pakistan tests are played on some really flat batting tracks and the Indian fast bowling in the last 2 test series (2005 and 2006) has not been great.
Whereas now India has a good seam bowling attack and are more likely to trouble him now.
Even in the 2006 India-Pak test series he failed on the only wicket which assisted the bowlers at Karachi.
 
aditya123 said:
I`d look beyond those stats.
The India-Pakistan tests are played on some really flat batting tracks and the Indian fast bowling in the last 2 test series (2005 and 2006) has not been great.
Whereas now India has a good seam bowling attack and are more likely to trouble him now.
Even in the 2006 India-Pak test series he failed on the only wicket which assisted the bowlers at Karachi.
err,

he made 60 in the second innings

thats more than tendulkar,laxman,sehwag,dhoni or dravid made in the whole match
 
Yeah, the pitch argument doesn't always work against Afridi, neither does the conditions one. His average similarly poor/average throughout the world. He's not really good or really poor in any one country, I guess it just depends on if he's on song or not.

As for the Karachi test, by the time Afridi got to those Indian bowlers, they were already pretty demoralized by Younis and Yousuf, so that doesn't really count IMO.
 
shahid6995 said:
The poll is wrong. There should be a "Both" option, I would choose that.

Absolutely correct man, for people who starts stupid thread like this should see shahid afridi's career, if u people didnt realise that he joined pakistan team as a spinner not as a batsman, and he had an upbringing of an spinner not a genuine batsman, so what if he slogs the ball in times , sometimes he make good bowlers noob infront of him, that doesnt mean he is a mindless cricketer, if u people follow his spin bowling , which i believe is very handy in situations when the captain was lagging the over rate his bowling make that patch upto its mark and he had some good variations that trick the batsman of all class.its not his fault as his career goes for him to settle as a batsman over a bowler, when he joined pak team they really needed an opener who take advantage of those starting overs and hitting over the fieldsmen with an experience campaigner like saeed anwar as his fortune that clicks his career as a power hitting batsman. he maybe a power hitter but one should realise him a brilliant player in all.
 
evertonfan, I've said this before and I'll say it again. You're a sad little kid: You seem to absolutely hate Afridi and seem to have a one-man crusade against him! A lot of people may not like him as a player (i.e. the mindless slogger statements) but you, you my friend, hate him with a passion. It's actually quite disturbing...
 
well he has a point, id say that I'd prefer the majority of test players over afridi, there just really isnt a place for someone with his mindset
 
The Blazer said:
evertonfan, I've said this before and I'll say it again. You're a sad little kid: You seem to absolutely hate Afridi and seem to have a one-man crusade against him! A lot of people may not like him as a player (i.e. the mindless slogger statements) but you, you my friend, hate him with a passion. It's actually quite disturbing...

Why the hell have you brought me into this? I haven't even posted in this thread for ages! I do not hate Afridi, I hate his cricket. That's pretty clear in my posts. You go around here calling people anti-Pakistani and telling us to grow up when in fact your the one who needs to realise that people are allowed to have different opinions and we don't have to agree with you.
 
My feelings towards Afridi, a little like Matt are I think clouded by his fans as we said earlier in the thread.

As an example take cats, I often say I hate cats, but in reality I don't hate cats at all, I hate the majority of their owners. So when I'm throwing one out a window I'd actually much rather be throwing the owner out a window.*

Yes I think cats are fairly pointless, and don't live up their hype, but at the end of the day, I'm sure there is nothing wrong with cats, but there is definately something wrong with the extremely over the top cat owners who treat their cat like a long lost child... see what I'm saying :p


* I may or may not actually throw cats out of windows :p
 

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