All-Time Test XIs

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Time for another article from yours truly, this time I?ve decided to try and determine my All-Time test XI. I will look to players from all generations, and will attempt to look in detail at every specific position within the team, before delivering my all-time XI at the end of the article. I believe a perfect Test XI has to consist of 2 openers, 3 middle order batsmen, an all-rounder, a wicket keeper and then 4 bowlers with 1 of them a spinner. That?s how the article will be structured, so here goes, we?ll start with the openers.

The Opening Batsmen

Picking 2 opening batsmen from every generation of cricket is going to be an incredibly difficult task. There are so many options, you have arguably the greatest modern opener in Matthew Hayden to players from previous generations like Gavaskar, Haynes, Greenidge, and then even further back with the great Jack Hobbs. For me, the greatest opening batsman of all-time is Sir Jack Hobbs. He had a First Class career spanning 29 glorious years, in which time he played 834 First Class matches, scoring over 60?000 runs at an astounding average of 50.70. He also played 61 Test matches, making 5140 runs, at an impressive average of 56.94. These stats alone make him a shoe in for the side as far as I?m concerned. So that?s one place sorted.

Picking the second opening batsman is going to be a tougher task. It is incredibly tempting to partner Jack Hobbs with his partner of the time Herbert Sutcliffe. They both have incredible records, and an even more impressive record as an opening pair. In 38 opening stands in Test Cricket they made 3249 runs at an average opening stand of 87.81, the highest average for any opening pair to ever play the game. These are certainly incredible stats, and I think they?ll surpass anyone else I could pick for the position.

The other guys that are in contention are Sunil Gavaskar, Matthew Hayden and Gordon Greenidge. Gavaskar probably has the best record of the 3 batsmen on show. He?s one of the few batsmen to make 10?000 runs in Test Cricket, and an average over 50 considering the time he played is very impressive. Matthew Hayden has a better record in terms of average, but the key point to remember is that Hayden is playing in a time with better bats, batsmen friendly pitches, a decline in quality pace bowling, and smaller boundaries. Hayden also struggles when playing in bowler friendly conditions, as proven by his relatively disappointing record in England and New Zealand, as well as a poor record in South Africa. It is for that reason that Hayden is out of contention.

This leaves the choice between Herbert Sutcliffe, Sunil Gavaskar and Gordon Greenidge. Greenidge is considered to be one of the best opening batsmen of all-time, he played as part of the famous invincible West Indies side of the 70?s and 80?s with such stars as Sobers, Haynes, Richards, Holding, Roberts, Garner etc. Greenidge played in the era of the great pace bowlers, with guys like Dennis Lillee, Jeff Thomson, Kapil Dev, Richard Hadlee, and many others around at the time. The fact that Greenidge never had to play against the fab four of the West Indian pace bowlers does work against him though.
I have therefore come to the conclusion that, although both Gavaskar and Greenidge had fantastic records, the only man that can really partner Jack Hobbs, with a fantastic previous track record has to be the great Yorkshireman Herbert Sutcliffe. So that means the 2 openers are sorted, with the opening pair being Sir Jack Hobbs and Herbert Sutcliffe.

The Middle Order Batsmen

The Middle Order is widely known as the engine room of the batting line-up. This is where the majority of the runs are made, with 3 world class batsmen needed to fill the role it?s not going to be an easy choice. The obvious candidate to be guaranteed a position is the unmatchable Sir Donald Bradman, but the other 2 positions will be more difficult to fill, with guys like Viv Richards, Wally Hammond, Sachin Tendulkar, Ricky Ponting, Graeme Pollock, Allan Border and Sir Len Hutton all vying for positions.

Number 3

Picking the man to bat at number 3 in my line-up is possibly going to be the easiest choice of any position in the team. There is only 1 man capable of doing the job, and it is of course the legendary Sir Donald Bradman. The wiley Australian?s Test record has never and probably will never be surpassed by anyone. His Test record of 52 matches, 6996 Runs at an average of 99.94 is the greatest of anyone. He may not have the sheer depth of runs when compared with a Border, Tendulkar or Ponting, but his average is what makes him so special. No one since the end of Bradman?s career has come close. He is simply the greatest batsman to ever play the game of cricket.

Number 4

Deciding on the positions from here is going to be more difficult. I have had 1 man in mind for this position though. The man I have decided to go for is the great Sir Vivian Richards. This could be a somewhat controversial pick, but as far as I?m concerned there?s no better batsman ever that offers more entertainment than Viv. Every time he walked to the crease you knew you?d be in for a show. Viv?s aggressive method of play somewhat revolutionised the game, and definitely helped with the birth of ODi cricket around the world. He?s got the record for the fastest Test Century in 54 balls, a record that has only been close to being broken on 1 occasion by Adam Gilchrist in the 2007 Ashes. Viv?s Test record is also incredibly impressive, playing 121 Test Matches, scoring 8540 runs at an average of 50.23. The average of 50 is something that all players try to reach, but only Viv has played in such a manner and maintained such a high average. The only modern player than can even compare to Sir Vivian is Kevin Pietersen, both playing in a similar fashion, but with Viv having far more talent.

Number 5

The final position in the middle order is another that could possibly cause a little bit of controversy. Many people will be claiming that I should include one of the modern greats in the middle order, someone like Ponting, Tendulkar or Lara. I disagree however, as I believe the man I have chose surpasses any of them in terms of pure talent, and in my eyes is one of the most talented players to ever play the game. The man I?ve chosen? It is of course, the greatest South African batsman of all-time, and probably the greatest left handed batsman of all time, the incomparable Graeme Pollock.

This may cause controversy and people may disagree, but I have watched documentaries about the man, have seen his statistics and more importantly I have seen him bat. Apart from possibly Viv Richards, I?ve never seen a man with better hand-eye co-ordination step onto a cricket field. Graeme Pollock is one of the most talented batsmen to ever play the game, but also one of the most unfortunate. Pollock unfortunately played in the time of the Apartheid, and the time when South Africa were omitted from World Sport. Graeme Pollock may only have played 23 Test Matches, but his average of 60.97 speaks volumes for the mans talent. He had First Class and List A averages above 50, and was named as the joint greatest left handed batsman alongside Garfield Sobers by the great Don Bradman. High praise, but deserved praise. Pollock therefore gets into my team, batting at number 5.

To sum up the middle order, I have gone for Bradman, Richards and Pollock. They join Hobbs and Sutcliffe in the side. Now time to find the best all-rounder of all-time.

All-Rounder

For me and I?m sure for most cricket fans, the selection of the greatest All-Rounder of all-time is about as easy as picking Bradman in the middle order. There may have been some great all-rounders in the past, guys like Dev, Hadlee, Benaud, Botham, etc, but the one that really stands out above them all is the great Sir Garfield Sobers.

Sobers, with his Test batting average of 57, his 26 Test match hundreds, his Test wickets tally at 235 at an average of 34 makes him far and away the greatest all-rounder of all time. There?s no competition for me. His batting alone makes him one of the greatest, and alongside Graeme Pollock, was named as the joint greatest left handed batsman by Sir Donald Bradman. So, batting at 6 and providing the all-rounder role, the great Sir Garfield Sobers.

Wicket Keeper

When it comes to picking a wicket-keeper, I?m back to a very tough decision again. Do I go for more of an all-rounder and someone more known for their batting in Adam Gilchrist or Kumar Sangakkara, or do I go for a pure wicket-keeper with someone like Alan Knott, Ian Healy, Rodney Marsh or Jeffrey Dujon.

For me personally it?s a choice between Adam Gilchrist and Alan Knott. The comparison between the 2 is very difficult. In Gilchrist you?ve got someone who averaged close to 50 in Test cricket, and was a class wicket keeper to boot, and in Knott you?ve got lower standards of batting, but arguably the greatest keeper to ever stand behind the stumps. Personally, having seen so much of Adam Gilchrist, the choice has to go to him.

Gilchrist?s batting just helped revolutionise the world game, especially in ODi cricket. Gilchrist averaged 47 with the bat, in the 96 Test matches he played, scoring 17 Hundreds to boot. He also had to keep wicket to the great Shane Warne, no easy task considering the sheer amount of variations in Warne?s locker. Gilchrist?s keeping record is also fantastic. Gilchrist amassed 379 catches and 37 stumpings in his time as Australian wicket keeper, a record only matched/surpassed by South African wicket keeper Mark Boucher. So for me, the wicket keeper has to be Adam Gilchrist, what he lacked in keeping ability he made up with entertainment and batting skill. So batting at number 7 and keeping wicket in my team is Australian keeper Adam Gilchrist.

The Bowlers

Picking 4 bowlers is a very difficult task; I would preferably like 3 pace bowlers and 1 spinner. Picking those bowlers is not going to be easy in the slightest however. A few names automatically spring to mind, those being Sydney Barnes, Shane Warne, Glenn McGrath, Malcolm Marshall, Muttiah Muralitharan and Dennis Lillee. I suppose I better get on with picking a few names.

The first choice I?m going to make is for my first of 3 pace bowlers. 1 name really stands out for me when it comes to pace bowlers, and that name is of a West Indian, and the greatest of the 4 main pace men from that great West Indian era, and that is Malcolm Marshall. Malcolm Marshall has the greatest average of any bowler to have taken more than 200 wickets at Test Level. Marshall played 81 Test Matches in his career, taking 376 wickets at an incredibly impressive average of 20.96. His First Class record was even better, with an average of under 20 from 408 matches, taking 1651 wickets. This record is what makes Malcolm Marshall the first bowler to make it into my team.

Now to decide on the second of 3 pace bowlers for my team, and it?s time for possibly another controversial pick. My pick for my second pace bowler is the great Englishman Sydney Barnes. This could be a surprise choice considering Barnes only played 27 Test matches, but his record in those matches and in his First Class career is something that makes his worthy of being in the team. In Barnes? 27 Test Matches, he took 189 wickets, at an astounding average of just 16.43, definitely the most impressive bowling average I have ever seen from a Test Bowler. His First Class stats are similarly as impressive, playing 133 matches, taking 719 wickets at an average of just 17.09.

The third and final Pace bowler for my team is another difficult choice, but one I am happy to make. The first of my 2 choices are both Fast-Medium bowlers, neither were out and out quick, and it is for that reason that I have decided to plump for an out and out pace bowler as my final choice. Pace is something that can put the fright into any batting line-up and any batsman, and there are a number of bowlers I could consider, from guys like Jeff Thomson and Dennis Lillee, to Wasim and Waqar and then to modern greats like Allan Donald and Shoaib Akhtar. For me, the greatest out and out pace bowler has to be Wasim Akram. He had everything, he could bat abit, had tremendous pace, could swing the ball both ways, and also helped bring Reverse Swing into the forefront of the game. His test figures are tremendous, playing 104 Test matches, taking 414 wickets at an impressive average of 23.62. Wasim Akram really was a tremendous bowler, and rightly deserves a place in my team.

The final position for me to consider in my team is the position of the spin bowler. This is going to be one of the more difficult decisions in the make-up of this team. There are of course 2 stand out candidates for the position, those are of course Shane Warne and Muttiah Muralitharan. They sit atop the Test Wicket Taking record table with over 700 apiece. Picking between them is going to be incredibly difficult though. In Warne you?ve got a conventional but incredibly talented Leg-Spinner, and in Muralitharan you?ve got an extrovert off-spinner with a very interesting, and often criticised bowling action. I think the man that is standing out for me most has to be Shane Warne. This is purely for 1 reason and 1 reason only, their records in Australia. Australia is notably a difficult place to bowl for a spinner, and yet Warne did the majority of his bowling in the country. Muralitharan?s record in Australia is far from impressive, averaging above 75 for each wicket, and that is purely the only thing that is keeping Murali out of the side. So for that reason alone, my choice of spinner is the great Blonde Bamboozler Shane Warne.

Conclusion

Well, that has been a very fun and interesting journey since the start, and it?s been something I?ve enjoyed greatly. I?ve actually found the selections far easier than I first thought I would. I?m sure I will have people disagreeing with various selections, but at the end of the day I?ve had hundreds of years of history and thousands of world class players to choose from, and in my eyes this is the greatest team I can come up with. I?m open to discussion regarding my selections, so if you have any thoughts, counter arguments or any points of interest then feel free to get in touch. But, to finish of the article, here is my final XI:

Sir Jack Hobbs
Herbert Sutcliffe
Sir Donald Bradman
Sir Vivian Richards
Graeme Pollock
Sir Garfield Sobers
Adam Gilchrist
Shane Warne
Wasim Akram
Sydney Barnes
Malcolm Marshall


Thanks for reading, I hope you enjoyed my article.
 
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Wow, I came to this thread 20 minutes ago and said to myself I'll read it later, I didn't have anything to do so I decided to read it and boy am I glad I did. Fantastic article.

I would consider putting Botham in the all-rounder spot. His aggressiveness could just take the game away from the opponent with the snap of your fingers and his bowling is fair good too although I dont mind Sobers there. I'm pretty happy with that team although I would want to play Ponting in there.

His record is amazing, and I will happily say much better then Richards. Maybe he's not as aggressive and entertaining, but he can score quick runs and he just plays the ball so good when in form. Over 10,000 test runs at 57 with 36 hundreds, and 41 fiftys's for that matter should simply be enough to take him in any best team. 36 hundreds and 41 fiftys, thats an amazing conversion rate.

Compare that to Richards of 24 hundreds and 45 fiftys, or Lara's 34 and 48 etc. Ponting scores a hundred nearly every second time he gets past 50. I'm not saying drop Richards, maybe drop Pollock but I think that Ponting should be in that side.

But none-the-less a great article there mate I really enjoyed that read.
 
Thanks for the comment :D Glad you enjoyed the article.

Hmm, not too sure about the Botham comment. Sobers is probably the greatest player to play the game, he had everything. He was one of the best batsmen we've ever seen grace a cricket field, he was brilliant in the field and was a very useful bowler, bowling both pace and spin. I'm sure even Beefy would be happy with Sobers in the team ahead of him.

I wanted to get Ponting in there, but Richards is a player I admire immensely, and after Pietersen is my favourite player of all-time, so for me he had to be in the side. I suppose Ponting could have gone in, but I wanted a left hander to boost the middle order, as the other 2 were rightys, just helped the balance to have 2 right handers and 2 left handers providing the bulk of the middle order runs. Pollock's probably the most under-rated batsman of all-time, he really was top top class. He'd be averaging in the 60's-70s if playing now, he was immensely talented.

I suppose it's just down to your personal opinion at the end of the day, replacing Pollock with Ponting wouldn't effect the team at all, as Ponting is top class. I'd just rather have Pollock in my side.

How do you feel about the bowling attack?
 
I'd have Sachin over Pollock. But then again, I'm Indian and a tad biased :p Lara is a shoo in in my best Test XI too, as I love to watch him bat.

Bowling, not sure with Sydney Barnes as he a mix of seam, swing and spin, and played a lot on uncovered pitches. Marshall and Warne are a shoe in. Thompson is a bit odd, maybe someone like Ambrose or Waqar could have done for a pure pacer, or Garner or Lillee or Snow, etc.
 
Sir Jack Hobbs
Herbert Sutcliffe
Sir Donald Bradman
Sir Vivian Richards
Graeme Pollock
Sir Garfield Sobers
Adam Gilchrist
Shane Warne
Sydney Barnes
Jeff Thomson
Malcolm Marshall

It is a good team, but not necessarily one I would agree with. The bowling looks a tad shaky with Thomson in there. Jeff Thomson was not an All Time Test XI standard bowler. He performed averagely at Test cricket for a large period of his career and was not a standout. Dennis Lillee, on the other hand, is regarded by his peers almost unanimously as a fantastic bowler and the best of his era - sure, the numbers aren't extraordinary (they're better than Thommo's though) and we might not know why this is, but someone who is rated so highly by so many of his peers must be special - especially in an age of fast bowlers.

Moreover, I am unsure of rating Sydney Barnes as highly as you do. He merely exploited uncovered and more importantly underprepared pitches, imo. People cite that he played on astroturf, but anyone who has played on astroturf shows that flat spin is aided immensely by astroturf as the ball grips on the thick surface and does all sorts of crazy things. I'd far rather have Muralitharan or Wasim Akram, depending on the surface of pitch you are playing on. That being said, the strength of both the great players was the ability to succeed anywhere in the world.
 
Sobers was also not the greatest bowler. Very good, a matchwinner, but according to his stats better at being a stock bowler. So if Barnes and Thommo can't fire, you need an extra strike force.
 
An attack of Lillee, Warne, Muralitharan/Akram and Marshall would not need a fifth bowler.
 
Moreover, I am unsure of rating Sydney Barnes as highly as you do. He merely exploited uncovered and more importantly underprepared pitches, imo.

Also, from what I've read of him, the guy is a complete twat. I usually love witty and difficult people, but he just seems to be completely out of order. I know that has nothing to do with class, but maybe if he was difficult to captains, he doesn't deserve a spot. :spy
 
You've got no time for difficult people, have you? Nice avatar btw.
 
I have plenty of time for difficult people, just not the ones who will constantly make me feel a fool by outsmarting me, like this guy seems to be.

And thank you, House is, well, someone that cannot be confined to just words, I need to do a dance to show his awesomeness.
 
Moreover, I am unsure of rating Sydney Barnes as highly as you do. He merely exploited uncovered and more importantly underprepared pitches, imo. People cite that he played on astroturf, but anyone who has played on astroturf shows that flat spin is aided immensely by astroturf as the ball grips on the thick surface and does all sorts of crazy things. I'd far rather have Muralitharan or Wasim Akram, depending on the surface of pitch you are playing on. That being said, the strength of both the great players was the ability to succeed anywhere in the world.

Barnes did take 34 wickets at 22 on flat pitches in Australia in 1907/08 against good players of the cavalier of Trumper, Hill, Armstrong, Macartney and Gregory. The one thing that is often forgot is that Branes was an accurate bowler, who gave nothing to the batmen. Plus he played until he was well into his 60's, which is an incredible feat.
 
Barnes did take 34 wickets at 22 on flat pitches in Australia in 1907/08 against good players of the cavalier of Trumper, Hill, Armstrong, Macartney and Gregory. The one thing that is often forgot is that Branes was an accurate bowler, who gave nothing to the batmen. Plus he played until he was well into his 60's, which is an incredible feat.
I could list Barnes' achievments all year, but I believe that his cricket was played in an age too far gone to be seriously considered as reliable evidence of his ability.
 
I could list Barnes' achievments all year, but I believe that his cricket was played in an age too far gone to be seriously considered as reliable evidence of his ability.

Maybe at in England, where there was uncovered pitches, and South Africa on matting but in Australia on flat pitches he took 77 wickets at an average of 22 bearing in mind the quality players there were in those days who learned to play on any surface, especially Victor Trumper, who was master on any type of pitch and any bowler on his day.
 
Thanks for the comment :D Glad you enjoyed the article.

Hmm, not too sure about the Botham comment. Sobers is probably the greatest player to play the game, he had everything. He was one of the best batsmen we've ever seen grace a cricket field, he was brilliant in the field and was a very useful bowler, bowling both pace and spin. I'm sure even Beefy would be happy with Sobers in the team ahead of him.

I wanted to get Ponting in there, but Richards is a player I admire immensely, and after Pietersen is my favourite player of all-time, so for me he had to be in the side. I suppose Ponting could have gone in, but I wanted a left hander to boost the middle order, as the other 2 were rightys, just helped the balance to have 2 right handers and 2 left handers providing the bulk of the middle order runs. Pollock's probably the most under-rated batsman of all-time, he really was top top class. He'd be averaging in the 60's-70s if playing now, he was immensely talented.

I suppose it's just down to your personal opinion at the end of the day, replacing Pollock with Ponting wouldn't effect the team at all, as Ponting is top class. I'd just rather have Pollock in my side.

How do you feel about the bowling attack?

True, I think both Sobers and Botham would be more then capable to play in the Test XI though. But like you said it is down to personal preference.

I was going to say McGrath should be in for Thomson before I read the article but you make a good point about needing the pace.But if i'm not mistaken Waqar and/or Akram were very quick, high 140's and could swing it both ways. I'm not great on the old players and the history but I remember seeing something on Akram i think it was and his ability to swing it both ways at a quick pace with a deadly worker is lethal.

Dennis Lille was also lethal, very quick and probably more useful then Thomson. Despite not having that amazing pace Thomson did Lille and Thomson were one of the most feared bowling partnerships behind Waqar/Akram (I think the guy is Waqar I'm really not sure :p) and Ambrose/Marshall I think the West Indies one was. Lille had pace and was simply a better bowler in terms of wickets through good bowling not through luckily getting a 155k ball to be a yorker if you get what I mean.

Personally I wouldn't put Thomson there, I would probably have Akram. From that one short documentary I saw a few years back he just wowed me and I dont think i've ever seen a bowler have a better highlights reel then the one I saw of him.

I agree with Marshall, I always knew just from hearing around that he was a legend, but looking at those stats I'm wowed. They are amazing statistics. I can't believe he managed to keep his FC average under 20 in over 400 games and his Test average 20! Marshall was quick too right? I though he bowled around the 140's.

Not sure on Barnes, he sure does have an amazing record but I do wonder if playing Lille there would be better for the team. Imagine having to face Thomson/Lille/Marshall or even Akram/Lille/Marshall etc. Whilst, like all bowlers they might have an off day then you dont have that slower guy who keeps it down, but with an all-rounder like Sobers in the team and Warne bowling 30+ overs a game it should be fine.

Now like I said, I dont know much about elder guys in cricket and the whole History. But I want to start learning it so I've made mistakes in my arguments just tell me :)
 

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