Australia tour of New Zealand 2010

[Cricketdude]

What should happen in the future is Clarke gets dropped from OD and T20 but stays captain of tests(in around 2 years he'll captain test).

 

[Robelinda]

I"m not gonna enjoy the time when Clarke's captain- Ive always enjoyed all the Aussie captains since Border's reign.

 

[drainpipe32]

God knock from Vettori that.

Ponting's shot was disappointing, but good to see everyone else make runs. Starts though......

And Mitch, you beauty!

Meanwhile, I had a great day at Mooma

 

[TheGreemSim]

Nice to see Vettori prove himself as a batsman again but it's a shame we left our lower order to try and save us.

 

[War]

Two question for NZ fans.

- Why is Neil Broom near the ODI & T20 set-up?

- Why is Franklin batting in the top 6?

War added 1 Minutes and 44 Seconds later...

I"m not gonna enjoy the time when Clarke's captain- Ive always enjoyed all the Aussie captains since Border's reign.

Ha ye deep down i sort of feel the same way. He still looks like a kid, i honestly can't put my mind around Clarke being skipper.

 

[Mike23]

Well played Vettori, too bad he couldn't drive them home.Why on earth are broom an Franklin batting ahead of Styris? with Taylor injured Styris should have been promoted up the order.

 

[McLOVIN]

"D/L method made it tougher" No it didnt. You were able to catch up and needed run a ball. Its not like you needed 13 from 3 ball. Its that shot you played. you could have done what you did to Mitch's last over.

 

[Howsie]

Two question for NZ fans.

- Why is Neil Broom near the ODI & T20 set-up?

- Why is Franklin batting in the top 6?

Because our selectors like to try guys out in one day cricket first if they can, it's not something I agree with though.

 

[King Pietersen]

Any idea why Kane Williamson's not been given a go yet Hows? That run of scores in your sig is just incredible, he may be young, but I think it's pretty safe to say he's a better player than Broom and although he's done ok, probably Ingram too. Think they should have given the lad a go in this series.

 

[War]

Because our selectors like to try guys out in one day cricket first if they can, it's not something I agree with though.

Hmm, weird. Why i ask is because watching the the progress of these two players in the last 2 years i'm not sure what use they have to be honest.

Firstly Franklyn. Well firstly i remember him as left-arm swing bowler (remembering him taking a 6 wicket haul vs AUS in 2005). But then last year vs India in 3 test i saw he was batting in the top 6 - now he is batting in the top 5 in this current ODI series. I understand domestically in NZ he is batting well in top 6 (plus i know he replicated that here in England in our Division 2 competition).

But its pretty obvious he aint an international quality top 6 bat ATS. So if his bowling has declined, plus he can't translate his domestic top-order batting @ international level. He seems fairly useless for NZ to me.


On Broom. Everytime i see him, his fielding alone impresses. His batting doesn't look international standard also.

 

[pcfan123]

Kane Williamson has the opposite problem of Pakistani cricketers, he is considered to be too young by Kiwi standards :laugh by Pakistani standards he is probably too old to debut

 

[Howsie]

Any idea why Kane Williamson's not been given a go yet Hows? That run of scores in your sig is just incredible, he may be young, but I think it's pretty safe to say he's a better player than Broom and although he's done ok, probably Ingram too. Think they should have given the lad a go in this series.

Age, and this big fear that if he plays he might be mentally scarred, quite ridiculous IMO. He scored a 100 last season against Shane Bond and Canterbury so it's not like he hasn't faced express bowlers before. He's the best batsmen in domestic cricket, age shouldn't be a factor AFAIC.

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Hmm, weird. Why i ask is because watching the the progress of these two players in the last 2 years i'm not sure what use they have to be honest.

Firstly Franklyn. Well firstly i remember him as left-arm swing bowler (remembering him taking a 6 wicket haul vs AUS in 2005). But then last year vs India in 3 test i saw he was batting in the top 6 - now he is batting in the top 5 in this current ODI series. I understand domestically in NZ he is batting well in top 6 (plus i know he replicated that here in England in our Division 2 competition).

But its pretty obvious he aint an international quality top 6 bat ATS. So if his bowling has declined, plus he can't translate his domestic top-order batting @ international level. He seems fairly useless for NZ to me.


On Broom. Everytime i see him, his fielding alone impresses. His batting doesn't look international standard also.

From what I've seen of Franklin over the past year and a half is that he struggles against guys with extra pace. His footwork really isn't that great and he pokes and prodes a lot outside off stump. His bowling though has basically got to a level of a part-timer, he'd be lucky to hit 130K these days.

Broom, yeah he's been rather poor. But I still have high hopes for him. He's always been mentioned as one of the better batsmen going around the domestic scene and averaging mid 40's playing down in Dunedin is nothing to scoff at. Watched him make a 100 a few years back where Otago only made 210 and he rarely looked troubled, I really think his technique is up to international standard it's just that he's a pretty average one day player.

 

[War]

Age, and this big fear that if he plays he might be mentally scarred, quite ridiculous IMO. He scored a 100 last season against Shane Bond and Canterbury so it's not like he hasn't faced express bowlers before. He's the best batsmen in domestic cricket, age shouldn't be a factor AFAIC.

Fair point. IIRC Martin Crowe NZ's greatest batsmen also struggled early on when picked on raw talent, but later on stepped up.

If this Williamson bloke is the real deal, NZ might as well give him a go.

From what I've seen of Franklin over the past year and a half is that he struggles against guys with extra pace. His footwork really isn't that great and he pokes and prodes a lot outside off stump. His bowling though has basically got to a level of a part-timer, he'd be lucky to hit 130K these days.

Word. It seems like Franklin could be a bit of favourite amongsts the selectors.

Broom, yeah he's been rather poor. But I still have high hopes for him. He's always been mentioned as one of the better batsmen going around the domestic scene and averaging mid 40's playing down in Dunedin is nothing to scoff at. Watched him make a 100 a few years back where Otago only made 210 and he rarely looked troubled, I really think his technique is up to international standard it's just that he's a pretty average one day player.

Well thats the thing, if he is averaging 40 in NZ domestic as usual one has to question that standard of bowling over there since he hasn't look like a international batsmen. He seemingly in the last year or so has been consistently has also been picked ahead of Styris in ODIs & T20s which is fairly shocking.

 

[irottev]

Two question for NZ fans.

- Why is Neil Broom near the ODI & T20 set-up?

- Why is Franklin batting in the top 6?

2 questions i've wanted to be answered. Broom deserved a go, but look at the guy's figures. They're horrible. He's not taken the chance so send him back to domestic. Franklin batting in the top 6 is absurd, especially injured. Him batting above Styris really makes me mad.

"D/L method made it tougher" No it didnt. You were able to catch up and needed run a ball. Its not like you needed 13 from 3 ball. Its that shot you played. you could have done what you did to Mitch's last over.

Under D/L it would have been comfortable. Vettori wouldn't have had to play the risky shot he got out to. Under D/L we needed 13 from 10 when Vettori got out. Without D/L we woulda needed 21 from 40 lol. We lost 5 overs - 2 were power play and only got 8 runs taken off. And i'm not bitching, because it was a good game and they're never going to get a perfect system. But it DID make it harder. 3 an over is a bit easier than above a run a ball lol.

BRING BACK SKIPPY SINCLAIR!!!!!

 

[Dare]

Man all these games have great finishes and I cant stay up to watch them. Had to get up at 6 am this morning, would have been nice seeing Vettori batting, well deserved MOM. Not having Taylor was huge blow.