Bangladesh Tour of India 2019 Discussion

[NILAYSHAH60]

Shami needs to change the seam with this Pink ball what usually works for him is the impeccable upright seam position which he bowls and with a bit of wear & tear and variations in pitch and wicket to wicket line becomes most lethal when it comes to bowl in the 2nd innings.

The way Ishant bowl was a perfect example of using the Pink ball which swings a whole lot compared to the coventional one.He used the cross seam position to great effect bowling those (7'O clock outswingers) - the angle of seam position w.r.t clock position and (5'O clock Inswingers) to pick wickets.Even the Bangladeshi bowlers used the cross seamers with the second new ball to trigger the Indian collapse.

Nice observation there @Bigby Wolf

 

[abhi_jacko]

That idiot Manjrekar strikes again. An absolute A-grade D-bag i there ever was. His comments reek of unfounded arrogance. He was a below average batsman at best and is a $hit commentator, while Harsha has excelled in his field of cricket analysis and commentary

[DOUBLEPOST=1574660766][/DOUBLEPOST]Ganguly, please do some good for us fans and cancel his contract !! He can stick to giving his opinions on local news channels which no one watches

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

That idiot Manjrekar strikes again. An absolute A-grade D-bag i there ever was. His comments reek of unfounded arrogance. He was a below average batsman at best and is a $hit commentator, while Harsha has excelled in his field of cricket analysis and commentary

[DOUBLEPOST=1574660766][/DOUBLEPOST]Ganguly, please do some good for us fans and cancel his contract !! He can stick to giving his opinions on local news channels which no one watches

There are always few idiots like this take for eg:- our Head Coach. If Ganguly's stay as a President is extended he would just wipe out these two.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

That idiot Manjrekar strikes again. An absolute A-grade D-bag i there ever was. His comments reek of unfounded arrogance. He was a below average batsman at best and is a $hit commentator, while Harsha has excelled in his field of cricket analysis and commentary

[DOUBLEPOST=1574660766][/DOUBLEPOST]Ganguly, please do some good for us fans and cancel his contract !! He can stick to giving his opinions on local news channels which no one watches

An Old Video that sums it up perfectly.

 

[abhi_jacko]

An Old Video that sums it up perfectly.

Superb !!

 

[icyman]

That idiot Manjrekar strikes again. An absolute A-grade D-bag i there ever was. His comments reek of unfounded arrogance. He was a below average batsman at best and is a $hit commentator, while Harsha has excelled in his field of cricket analysis and commentary

I have a different version the above. Agreeably, Sanjay isn't the most liked of commentators in India for his pro- Mumbai, pro- India and 50% senseless comments. However, there was a need for someone to put Harsha in his place and thats what Sanjay did.

Bhogle has been a respected commentator and is mostly liked by a lot. But, do note that Bhogle tends to be pro- Bangladesh in his commentary, which some of us find a bit weird. Bhogle got kicked off the commentary team for a similar stunt he pulled during the WT20 a few years ago. Even during the current series, he kept praising BD. I remember an instance where they had lost half their side under 100 and here was Bhogle praising their batting. Praising a team where they've done well, is definitely acceptable, but not to the extent that Harsha does with Bangaldesh.

Bhogle's pro-Bangla tendencies came to the fore during the debate between him and Manjrekar. The way I see it, Harsha's favourite team was unable to compete and hence he wanted the player's opinions to be taken into account. On the other hand, if the players were so sure that they wouldn't be able to compete, they should have simply walked out of the match. Manjrekar maybe a D-bag, but just for once, he is right in reading between the lines.

 

[SaiSrini]

I have a different version the above. Agreeably, Sanjay isn't the most liked of commentators in India for his pro- Mumbai, pro- India and 50% senseless comments. However, there was a need for someone to put Harsha in his place and thats what Sanjay did.

Bhogle has been a respected commentator and is mostly liked by a lot. But, do note that Bhogle tends to be pro- Bangladesh in his commentary, which some of us find a bit weird. Bhogle got kicked off the commentary team for a similar stunt he pulled during the WT20 a few years ago. Even during the current series, he kept praising BD. I remember an instance where they had lost half their side under 100 and here was Bhogle praising their batting. Praising a team where they've done well, is definitely acceptable, but not to the extent that Harsha does with Bangaldesh.

Bhogle's pro-Bangla tendencies came to the fore during the debate between him and Manjrekar. The way I see it, Harsha's favourite team was unable to compete and hence he wanted the player's opinions to be taken into account. On the other hand, if the players were so sure that they wouldn't be able to compete, they should have simply walked out of the match. Manjrekar maybe a D-bag, but just for once, he is right in reading between the lines.

Why would Harsha Bhogle have such a fondness for Bangladesh? I'd have even given it a thought if Bhogle was a Bengali (he's actually a Marathi who was born in Hyderabad).

Even if Bhogle had pro-Bangla siding, his argument that the "players opinions need to be taken into account" stands solid argument. Competing is a different thing whereas here the discussion was purely about visibility and how things can be improved to the point where the "grey areas" of D/N test cricket are eliminated to ensure a much higher quality contest.

 

[icyman]

Truth is, BD shouldnt have been invited to play the D/N test, especially after what transpired at their end(strikes and so on). I'd rather India play NZ/ Aus/ Eng in a D/N test which could've brought out the competitive element in a better manner. I also assume that the BCB would've informed its players about the D/N test. Shouldn't the players then, have raised concerns ,if any?

Furthermore, I did not see a single player complain regarding the visibility or the test in general. Therefore, Bhogle's argument doesn't hold good. As to the other topic of Bhogle's bias- yes, we all have our favourites, but he tends to take it to a different level with Bangladesh. Check out his tweets whenever they play.

 

[abhi_jacko]

I have a different version the above. Agreeably, Sanjay isn't the most liked of commentators in India for his pro- Mumbai, pro- India and 50% senseless comments. However, there was a need for someone to put Harsha in his place and thats what Sanjay did.

Bhogle has been a respected commentator and is mostly liked by a lot. But, do note that Bhogle tends to be pro- Bangladesh in his commentary, which some of us find a bit weird. Bhogle got kicked off the commentary team for a similar stunt he pulled during the WT20 a few years ago. Even during the current series, he kept praising BD. I remember an instance where they had lost half their side under 100 and here was Bhogle praising their batting. Praising a team where they've done well, is definitely acceptable, but not to the extent that Harsha does with Bangaldesh.

Bhogle's pro-Bangla tendencies came to the fore during the debate between him and Manjrekar. The way I see it, Harsha's favourite team was unable to compete and hence he wanted the player's opinions to be taken into account. On the other hand, if the players were so sure that they wouldn't be able to compete, they should have simply walked out of the match. Manjrekar maybe a D-bag, but just for once, he is right in reading between the lines.

I am all for a different take on an issue. But this is just rubbish imo

Never found Harsha biased towards BD. And there is absolutely no reason for him to be biased either. I am guessing his unbiased behavior towards India during India matches, as opposed to 75% of our other commentators who are shamelessly biased regardless of how we are playing might give you such a perception. Harsha is the best in the biz really and bringing up such shitty accusations is ridiculous

 

[abhi_jacko]

Furthermore, I did not see a single player complain regarding the visibility or the test in general. Therefore, Bhogle's argument doesn't hold good.

Bhogle was not making an argument. He was simply suggesting that they should ask players and do a survey on how was the visibility. How is that a bad suggestion?

And you are wrong about no one complaining either. Pujara as well as Saha have raised concerns about visibility under lights - there are more than a dozen reports on it if you just google it.

I think you are the only one in this world besides a few other manjerekar fans (if such a thing exists), who are on manjerekars side here. And that is fine and fair. But bringing up bs like harsha supports bd is just clutching at straws

 

[asprin]

The way I see it, Harsha's favourite team was unable to compete and hence he wanted the player's opinions to be taken into account

I'm sorry. But this is just plain ridiculous. For argument's sake, even if I see merit in your claim of Harsha being biased towards BD, to say he is suggesting taking player's opinion on the visibility aspect because BD failed to compete is nothing but absurd.

 

[icyman]

Let's wait the next time Bangladesh plays someone then!

Bhogle shows it clearly during his commentary stints. More so on Twitter! The level at which he favours BD is similar to Manjrekar favouring Mumbai players. Then again, don't have clippings that I can post here so prove it. But, Bhogle will make it evident in forthcoming games.

To Manjrekar, again, I feel there was nothing wrong in what he said, even the manner of putting it across was decent. Pity him cause he gets a lot of stick from various quarters and in this case, it was totally uncalled for.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

To Manjrekar, again, I feel there was nothing wrong in what he said, even the manner of putting it across was decent. Pity him cause he gets a lot of stick from various quarters

I don't remember when did Sanjay Manjrekar favoured Mumbai but there were few points that he made which were insanely ridiculous. In IPL this year he was saying that he looks up to Kane Williamson to be India's no 4 in the World Cup, I mean how is that possible ?

Again in the World Cup when Kohli was approaching his 50th half century, Sanjay Manjrekar was saying that Kohli has converted his last three 50+ scores into a hundred so haven't really made it to 50 half-centuries, so does he expect Kohli to get out so that his 50+ score counts as a 50th half century ?

Also the biggest of all he claimed Ravindra Jadeja to be a bits and pieces player during the World Cup even after the way he had performed 7-8 months prior to the World Cup. It clearly showed that Jadeja is more than capable of what he was doing earlier.

And I remember he was even saying that Vijay Shankar looked mediocre in the Nidahas Trophy and somehow still made it to the Indian team considering that Shivam Dube and Hardik Pandya were so good. I guess he said it during the Australia series that happened in India prior to IPL.

 

[abhi_jacko]

Let's wait the next time Bangladesh plays someone then!

Bhogle shows it clearly during his commentary stints. More so on Twitter! The level at which he favours BD is similar to Manjrekar favouring Mumbai players. Then again, don't have clippings that I can post here so prove it. But, Bhogle will make it evident in forthcoming games.

To Manjrekar, again, I feel there was nothing wrong in what he said, even the manner of putting it across was decent. Pity him cause he gets a lot of stick from various quarters and in this case, it was totally uncalled for.

I know exactly what incident you are talking about for harshas bias towards Bangladesh. The incident where he made 3-4 tweets regarding how Bangladesh were commanding the game against India, which was nowhere far from the reality. We were greatly underperforming in that game with sloppy fielding and dropping catches like anything and Harsha was the only Indian commentator to call it out on our pathetic performance. The same incident which led to his firing by BCCI because an oversensitive Mr. Bachchan and MSD complained about it. That incident was so ridiculously overblown and BCCIs reaction was a clear case censorship which has ruined our commentary team and turned them into nothing but a bunch of lackeys.

So please don't try to show things in a way that they aren't.

And if you feel bad for Sanjay and the stick that he gets, well then congrats on supporting a man who operates at the zenith of mediocrity in his profession. If any normal guy performed like Sanjay does at his job, he would be reprimanded and fired.

This is a classic case of the sentiment that is going around in our country these days, that if you don't support the team (or the govt) you are by default a supporter of the guys playing against the country. A learned economist criticizes the shambolic display of the govt in economic sector and he is branded anti Indian. A fan says he likes overseas players more than Indian players and he is asked to leave the country by our cricket captain. A brilliant and top of the game commentator and analyst calls out our cricket team for its shoddy display and says how well the opposition is performing (which is accurate) and he is labelled as being biased towards the opposition and biased against Indian players. Same difference

 

[abhi_jacko]

I don't remember when did Sanjay Manjrekar favoured Mumbai but there were few points that he made which were insanely ridiculous. In IPL this year he was saying that he looks up to Kane Williamson to be India's no 4 in the World Cup, I mean how is that possible ?

Again in the World Cup when Kohli was approaching his 50th half century, Sanjay Manjrekar was saying that Kohli has converted his last three 50+ scores into a hundred so haven't really made it to 50 half-centuries, so does he expect Kohli to get out so that his 50+ score counts as a 50th half century ?

Also the biggest of all he claimed Ravindra Jadeja to be a bits and pieces player during the World Cup even after the way he had performed 7-8 months prior to the World Cup. It clearly showed that Jadeja is more than capable of what he was doing earlier.

And I remember he was even saying that Vijay Shankar looked mediocre in the Nidahas Trophy and somehow still made it to the Indian team considering that Shivam Dube and Hardik Pandya were so good. I guess he said it during the Australia series that happened in India prior to IPL.

Thanks for pointing his Sanjays awfulness, and this is just a few incidents in the last 1 year. If someone still admires this guy and pities him, then surely sanjay must have done some great deeds in his previous life to deserve it