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Aislabie

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@Aislabie once it's not too much work then yeah that would be amazing.

I think after the draft it would also be cool to see who were behind that emergency glass, as @Bevab referred to it. Otherwise unpicked guys who we would have picked if someone else took our first choice, or maybe that we couldn't pick because we'd hit the 1-per-nation limit, or the team balance wasn't panning out how we expected, that sort of thing.
Definitely! On a past draft, I did a post-draft tournament and regretted it because it kind of shut down discussion about players and teams and made it about winning rather than appreciating cricketers. That's why I like going through and analysing all the teams, but also why I try to make the analysis majority-positive.
 

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Definitely! On a past draft, I did a post-draft tournament and regretted it because it kind of shut down discussion about players and teams and made it about winning rather than appreciating cricketers. That's why I like going through and analysing all the teams, but also why I try to make the analysis majority-positive.

I remember that draft, I think you used CrickSim or something? I don't think it should be about winning or losing, but your analysis is always pretty much on point. But I do think the post-draft sims can be done in a way where people won't complain much. Reading through the last few picks this morning, I'm seeing some massive players coming through in the last couple of days, I think that up until the end we'll be seeing some amazing picks.
 

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My next pick is Australia's Glenn McGrath

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Stats|Matches|Wkts|BBM|:bwl: Ave|Econ|5w/10w
List-A |305|463|7/15|21.60|3.79|7/0
ODI |250|381|7/15|22.02|3.88|7/0
Here is his bio from cricinfo:

"The young Glenn McGrath was described by Mike Whitney as "thin - but Ambrose-thin, not Bruce Reid-thin". Much later, Mike Atherton compared McGrath to Ambrose on a vaster scale. Catapulted from the outback of New South Wales into Test cricket to replace Merv Hughes in 1993, McGrath became the greatest Australian fast bowler of his time. He went on to beat Courtney Walsh's 519 wickets in the 2005 Super Test to become the leading wicket-taker among fast bowlers and his claim to the title of Australia's greatest fast man is contested only by Dennis Lillee. His obituary was prepared a few times - he was doubted after coming back in 2004 from ankle surgery and there were similar fears following a long lay-off to care for his wife two years later - but he wrote his own farewells. He retired from Tests at the SCG - his home ground - after Australia whitewashed England 5-0 in the 2006-07 Ashes and was adjudged the Man of the Tournament during Australia's successful World Cup campaign in 2007, his final one-day appearance.

McGrath's USP was an unremitting off-stump line and an immaculate length. He gained off-cut and bounce, specialised in the opposition's biggest wickets - especially Atherton's and Brian Lara's - and he was unafraid to back himself publicly in these key duels. He was a batting rabbit who applied himself so intently that while playing for Worcestershire he won a bet with an Australian team-mate by scoring a fifty. The hard work eventually paid off in Tests, when he made 61, then the third-highest score by a No. 11, against New Zealand in 2004-05. Only in his occasional fits of ill-temper did he fail himself.

He rewrote the World Cup record-books in 2003 with 7 for 15 against the outclassed Namibians, on his way to adding another winner's medal to a bulging collection. An ankle injury threatened to derail his quest for 500 Test wickets, but after briefly contemplating retirement he bounced back with yet another five-wicket haul against Sri Lanka at Darwin in July 2004. Three months later, at Nagpur, he became the first fast bowler to play 100 matches in the baggy green, and his greatness was further confirmed when knocking down the brittle Pakistanis at Perth with 8 for 24, the second-best figures by an Australian.

Adept at picking his moments, he chose the first day at Lord's to reach 500 and his subsequent ankle and arm injuries were crucial to Australia losing the Ashes in 2005. The following summer was also painfully disrupted with the recurrence of his wife Jane's cancer, which called for immediate treatment and McGrath's full attention. He pulled out of the VB Series finals as well as tours to South Africa and Bangladesh, but he made an emphatic comeback that culminated in him taking a record 26 wickets in the 2007 World Cup."

My playing XI:
  1. :sri: :ar: Sanath Jayasuriya (cost: 3)
  2. :ind: :bat: Sachin Tendulkar (cost: 3)
  3. :ken: :ar: Steve Tikolo (cost: 2)
  4. :ban: :wkb: Mushfiqur Rahim (cost: 2)
  5. :uae: :bat: Khurram Khan (cost: 1)
  6. :sco: :bat: Richie Berrington (cost: 1)
  7. :pak: :ar: Abdul Razzaq (cost: 3)
  8. ?
  9. :can: :bwl: Anderson Cummins (cost: 1)
  10. ?
  11. :aus: :bwl: Glenn McGrath (cost: 3)
Budget Used: 19/25

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I had a great pacer lined up, but sadly had to choose someone who could bat. Thankfully, Kapil Dev can bat, and his 253 ODI wickets at an average of 27 show his class with the ball.

CerealKiller’s XI
1. :ire: Ed Joyce :bat: :slvo:
2. :hkg: Anshuman Rath :bat: :bro:
3. :sri: Kumar Sangakkara :bat: :goldo:
4. :zim: Andy Flower :wkb: :slvo:
5. :ban: Shakib Al Hasan :ar: :slvo:
6.
7.
8. :ind: Kapil Dev :ar: :goldo: :c:
9. :pak: Waqar Younis :bwl: :goldo:
10. :nep:Sandeep Lamichhane :bwl: :bro:
11. :afg: Hamid Hassan :bwl: :slvo:
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:can: :bat: Abdool Samad

ODI stats
: 740 runs @ 29.60 (SR: 70.81, 1 century, best 130) in 27 matches
List A stats: 798 runs @ 22.80 (SR: n/a, 1 century, best 130) in 38 matches

Batting VARP (opener): :up: 52.91%

This must seem like a really weird selection, but Abdool Samad was very much at his best when given the accumulator's role at the top of the order. As a one-day international opener, he averaged 39.54 at a strike rate of nearly 75; not world-crushing numbers, but far from bad. He did stat-pad somewhat by making his then career-best 83, and then his overall career-best 130 against Bermuda; the former innings was against a competent bowling attack of Hurdle, Jones, Mukuddem, Leverock and Borden on a tricky pitch, and the latter came in an innings when Ashish Bagai was the only other batsman to pass 10. This isn't to say that Kyle Hodsoll was secretly a front-line fast bowler, but it is to say that his innings was not in overwhelmingly favourable circumstances.

In this team, his job won't be to bat for 50 overs; instead, his job will be to score as many singles as he can to give the strike to such players as Sharma and Richards.

@Aislabie's XI

Player|#||Primary Role||Secondary Role
:ind: :bat: :goldo: Rohit Sharma |15| |Top-order hitter| |-
:can: :bat: :bro: Abdool Samad |53| |Anchor accumulator| |-
:wi: :ar: :goldo: Viv Richards |2| |Top-order hitter| |Stock spinner
:oma: :ar: :bro: Aqib Ilyas |41| |Middle-order hitter| |Attacking spinner
:aus: :bat: :goldo: Michael Bevan |28| |Dynamic accumulator| |-
:eng: :ar: :goldo: Andrew Flintoff |43| |Express pace| |Middle-order hitter
:saf: :ar: :goldo: Shaun Pollock |11| |Stock seamer| |Firefighter
:bro: ?|-| |-| |-
:pak: :ar: :goldo: Wasim Akram |33| |Death bowler| |Lower-order hitter
:bro: ?|-| |-| |-
:sri: :bwl: :goldo: Muttiah Muralitharan |22| |Attacking spinner| |-

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I understand that in the modern era of ODI cricket, you can't expect your 5 listed bowlers to perform every single game. As so many others in this thread have shown thus far, you do need one or two of your batsmen to turn their arm over more often than not, and you need them to be economical but effective.

I'm giving eternal thanks to @Akshay. for removing the Gayle option for me. Yes, I'm actually thanking someone for taking away a pick that I was considering. Because it's a pick that I was so much on the fence about. See, Gayle bowled more earlier on in his career. Yes his batting was there earlier, but he was more of an all-rounder who could give you some big innings. You look at his early innings and he either bowled good and picked up a few, or batted good and scored a bunch. He didn't often do both. If you're picking him, I think you'd have to pick him on his batting rather than his bowling, and believe me you'd have picked someone amazing. You can't pick a modern Gayle for his bowling, in my opinion you absolutely cannot. Again, just my opinion, and everyone is free to disagree with it.

Alright, so Gayle is out. Still leaves me with a batsman who can bowl a little. I saw an earlier pick of Jayasuriya very early on in this draft and it got me thinking about similar players. And I believe I've found just the one. Receding hairline? Check. Off spinner? Check. Top order? Check.

Now the West Indies team of the late 90's to the early 00's were a team filled with a lot of "what-if" players. What if they played with the awesome foursome? What if they had a chance to bat with Viv? What if...and so on and soforth. This guy might only have had limited experience with such legends, but as a batsman, I always found his talent to be in abundance whenever he was out in the middle. Partnerships with fellow Guyanese batsmen such as Chanderpaul or Sarwan have frequently gotten the West Indies out of so much trouble, as was almost always the case during much of his career. The best part of his career came just around the three-quarters mark of his playing years, in my opinion, with some of the best ODI innings I've seen played on local grounds.

Then there's his bowling. You will never, ever, call him your strike spinner. But he had a knack of picking up wickets when it mattered, even if he's never once picked up a 5-for in ODI cricket.

Average in ODIs is 35 runs at a strike rate of 76 (List A average 40, strike rate unrecorded due to poor stat-keeping). Bowling you have 193 wickets at an average of 36 per wicket, going at 4.36 per over.

Plus, in that era, going out to bat while wearing a helmet but without a grille...that was just always so damn cool to me. Not the first, but probably will be the last due to safety concerns against fast bowling. I'm putting Carl Hooper as my number 4 batsman and reserve spinner. (His average actually is higher while batting at 4.) Hooper is also going to captain my team. That quietness behind him hid a silent aggression that never showed on the field of play, but you could always tell it was there.

So now I've got another pick.

Opener? Or Number 5? I've got two spots left and I have to pick one or the other.

I'll go with number 5. Again, I'm going to go with a guy that I'm picking for his batting, but can so easily turn his arm over if needed. Actually, at the start of his career I had dismissed him as being just one of those Sri Lankan experiments after guys like Mahela et al retired or were thinking of retiring from the 50-over game. I seriously didn't rate this guy anywhere near as good as he turned out to be. And, damn, did he turn out to be great for his country. From turning out consistent performances in the middle order, to often steadying the innings if a few quick wickets fall, to being a legit finisher, he'll give you all that you need. And again, it's a rare day that your top 5 bowlers perform. He'll give you a 6th, or in this team, a 7th option.

Overall batting average is 41, but at number 5 he bats at 51...10 more. Overall bowling average in ODIs is 33. Economy of 4.6.

Number 5 in my team is Angelo Mathews. One 't' in 'Mathews' by the way. For ONCE a Sri Lankan player has an name that's easy to spell.

1.
2. Calum MacLeod
3. Tom Cooper
4. Carl Hooper (c)
5. Angelo Mathews
6. Kevin O'Brien
7. Tatenda Taibu
8. Lance Klusener
9. Mujeeb Ur Rahman
10. Mustafizur Rahman
11. Ali Khan

Minus 6 points.

Points available - 4

(Like @Bevab, I kinda like my lineup so far too. Just need a hell of an opener. Going to end up having at least one point left over, but say what.)

@Aislabie it's you again.

EDIT: Just realised I've got a Cooper, a Hooper, a Rahman, an Ur Rahman. Wish Danny Morrison would do commentary if my team is playing!

EDITx2: Just grammatical cleanup.
 
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So normally I open my posts with a picture and work from there. But the thing is, even as I begin to compose this post I haven't the slightest clue who I'll select. I already have eight batting roles and six bowling roles covered, which means that so long as I select somebody who can take the gloves as one of them, my last two players are complete luxury picks. And it's not even like waiving my picks and waiting for the decision to be made for me would work: nobody else is picking one-point players at this point. It's quite literally up to me, and that's a bit of a scary amount of responsibility.

First things first, here are my options:
:uae: :bat: Shaiman Anwar
:ber: :bat: Lionel Cann
:nam: :ar: Jan Frylinck
:hkg: :bat: Babar Hayat
:nep: :ar: Paras Khadka
:nam: :bat: JP Kotze
:uae: :bat: Rameez Shahzad
:nam: :ar: Craig Williams
:hkg: :wk: Jamie Atkinson
:sco: :wk: Matty Cross
:uae: :wk: Saqlain Haider
:ber: :wk: Dean Minors
:sco: :wk: David Murphy
:sco: :wk: Colin Smith
:png: :wkb: Tony Ura
:nam: :wk: Melt van Schoor
:hkg: :bwl: Nadeem Ahmed
:sco: :ar: Josh Davey
:usa: :ar: Ian Holland
:uae: :bwl: Zahoor Khan
:ber: :bwl: Dwayne Leverock
:uae: :bwl: Mohammad Naveed
:nam: :bwl: Bernard Scholtz
:sco: :bwl: Safyaan Sharif
(Eight of each)
So as you can see if you opened the spoilers, I'm absolutely spoilt for choice. I think the first thing I need to do is shorten my shortlist. There are so many good players in that list, but the thing that makes it particularly difficult is the need to still select a wicket-keeper. I've got a bowling attack with Flintoff, Wasim and Murali in it: if I settle for a part-timer behind the stumps then that's going to be an issue. So really, I can only pick one of:

:ber: :bat: Lionel Cann - A hitter with an ODI strike rate of 117.
:sco: :ar: Josh Davey - Takes his wickets at barely over 20 apiece.
:nam: :ar: Jan Frylinck - A natural six-hitter and left-arm swing bowler.
:nep: :ar: Paras Khadka - The man literally is Nepalese cricket - well him and Lamichhane.
:uae: :bwl: Mohammad Naveed - A bustling 90 mph seamer and bonus slogger.
:nam: :bwl: Bernard Scholtz - The best left-arm spinner in any Associate nation.
:uae: :bat: Rameez Shahzad - Has an ODI batting average of over 50, with tons against Scotland and the WIndies.
:nam: :ar: Craig Williams - Has both first-class and ODI batting averages of over 40.

How on earth do I even make that choice?

Well in the end, it's pretty straightforward...

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:sco: :ar: Josh Davey

ODI stats
: 497 runs @ 22.59 (SR: 66.98, best 64) and 49 wickets @ 22.08 (econ: 4.99, 2 5WI, best 6/28) in 31 matches
List A stats: 1,210 runs @ 23.26 (SR: 66.92, best 91) and 105 wickets @ 26.77 (econ: 5.33, 2 5WI, best 6/28) in 86 matches

Bowling VARP (seamer): :up: 31.57%

A VARP of +31% isn't exactly outstanding in this team, but Josh Davey is a genuinely excellent cricketer, and someone who will add an extra layer of contingency to our side. He's a bowler who takes good wickets: he's played against England three times, and his returns include a three- and a four-wicket haul. Against Afghanistan, he has taken match-defining hauls of both five for nine and six for 28 to extinguish a line-up full of hitters. He's also taken three-fors against both New Zealand and Sri Lanka, and restricted Zimbabwe to only two-an-over in an attempt to defend a tiny total. He's played in matches alongside the likes of Trent Boult, Pat Cummins, Mitchell Johnson, Lasith Malinga and Mitchell Starc - but the best two sets of bowling figures (and half the five-wicket hauls) in all those matches belong to Davey.

He's combative, competitive, and competent enough with the bat to have made his debut as an opening batsman and spent the whole first three years of his Scotland career batting in the top four. He's also not a keeper, so I still need to pick one of those.

@Aislabie's XI

Player|#||Primary Role||Secondary Role
:ind: :bat: :goldo: Rohit Sharma |15| |Top-order hitter| |-
:can: :bat: :bro: Abdool Samad |53| |Anchor accumulator| |-
:wi: :ar: :goldo: Viv Richards |2| |Top-order hitter| |Stock spinner
:oma: :ar: :bro: Aqib Ilyas |41| |Middle-order hitter| |Attacking spinner
:aus: :bat: :goldo: Michael Bevan |28| |Dynamic accumulator| |-
:eng: :ar: :goldo: Andrew Flintoff |43| |Express pace| |Middle-order hitter
:saf: :ar: :goldo: Shaun Pollock |11| |Stock seamer| |Firefighter
:bro: ?|-| |-| |-
:pak: :ar: :goldo: Wasim Akram |33| |Death bowler| |Lower-order hitter
:sco: :ar: :bro: Josh Davey |56| |Luxury seamer| |-
:sri: :bwl: :goldo: Muttiah Muralitharan |22| |Attacking spinner| |-

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Ok, this is a controversial choice if there ever was one. The player i have picked played one ODI, making no runs and taking 1/31. But Garfield Sobers was much better than that, as shown by his List A averages, 38 when batting, and 21 when bowling, and him having hit 6 sixes in an over in a County match. This is not a pick on the basis of the player’s ODI record, but on the basis of his status as one of the greatest cricketers ever, and he happens to be eligible as a result of his solitary ODI appearance.

CerealKiller’s XI
1. :ire: Ed Joyce :bat: :slvo:
2. :hkg: Anshuman Rath :bat: :bro:
3. :sri: Kumar Sangakkara :bat: :goldo:
4. :zim: Andy Flower :wkb: :slvo:
5. :ban: Shakib Al Hasan :ar: :slvo:
6. :wi: Garfield Sobers :ar: :goldo:
7.
8. :ind: Kapil Dev :ar: :goldo: :c:
9. :pak: Waqar Younis :bwl: :goldo:
10. :nep:Sandeep Lamichhane :bwl: :bro:
11. :afg: Hamid Hassan :bwl: :slvo:
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I think, that had Sobers played in the modern era he would have batted something like a Mahela Jayawardene. Never seemingly aggressive, yet after 40 balls he's a hit away from 50 but has never played a shot out of aggression. Everyone would be thinking to themselves...just when did he score that many runs in such a short time? Hit the ball into the air only to clear the fielders, nothing more, but the timing on the shots would just carry the ball for four almost every time. He wouldn't have looked for the big shots unless it was absolutely needed.

As for his bowling...he could get up to speed at times, being more than just your average medium pacer. Add in left arm orthodox and unrthodox into the equation. Sobers isn't controversial by any means. He's a great pick but came from an era when ODIs were in their infancy and when he was on his...I can't even say the word "decline" for him...when he was on his way out of the team.
 

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My next pick is New Zealand's Daniel Vettori

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Stats|Matches|Runs|HS|:bat: Ave|100s/50s|Wkts|BBM|:bwl: Ave|Econ|5w/10w
List-A |365|3,549|138|20.16|2/10|387|5/7|30.98|4.08|2/0
ODI |295|2,253|83|17.33|0/4|305|5/7|31.71|4.12|2/0
Here is his bio from cricinfo:

"Daniel Vettori has been on the international scene so long it is sometimes hard to believe he has only recently crossed into his thirties. The youngest man to play Test cricket for New Zealand, at the age of 18, he is one of only eight players to have managed the double of 300 Test wickets and 3000 runs. With time on his side, he could one day creep up towards Hadlee's 431 Test dismissals, but to do that Vettori would need to avoid the stress fractures in his back that troubled him earlier in his career. He also cannot afford another form slump like the one he suffered in 2003-04.

He bounced back from that one, returning to his best, and his mastery of drift and subtle variations in flight, speed and length earned him a reputation as New Zealand's most dangerous player. It was that guile and ability to confuse the batsmen that sometimes turned what seemed like innocuous deliveries into unplayable hand grenades by the time they reached the other end.

He troubled Australia with 12 for 149 at Eden Park in March 2000, giving him his first ten-wicket Test. He continued to peak whenever he faced Australia, and also feasted against Bangladesh in 2004, taking 20 for 224 in the two-match rout. He was recognised alongside Muttiah Muralitharan as one of the best spinners outside Australia for the Super Series in 2005-06, and was one of six players to represent the World XI in the Test and all three one-dayers.

A more than handy lower-order batsman, he is the most prolific No. 8 in Tests. He was installed as captain for the Twenty20 World Championship in 2007 and took over from Fleming as the Test captain ahead of their two-Test tour of South Africa. However, retirements and the ICL saw New Zealand slip in the world rankings, and Vettori was saddled with more responsibilities than he could have imagined - including that of selector in 2009. Positive results, especially in Tests, were hard to come by but it didn't affect Vettori's form, and on many occasions his lower-order batting has come to the rescue."

My middle order, might be my weakest link so far, but with the likes of Razzaq and Vettori in my lower order, we will be totally fine.

My final pick would be coming from either, England, West Indies or South Africa for a pace bowler... not a bad place to be stuck for the final pick

My playing XI:
  1. :sri: :ar: Sanath Jayasuriya (cost: 3)
  2. :ind: :bat: Sachin Tendulkar (cost: 3)
  3. :ken: :ar: Steve Tikolo (cost: 2)
  4. :ban: :wkb: Mushfiqur Rahim (cost: 2)
  5. :uae: :bat: Khurram Khan (cost: 1)
  6. :sco: :bat: Richie Berrington (cost: 1)
  7. :pak: :ar: Abdul Razzaq (cost: 3)
  8. :nzf: :ar: Daniel Vettori (cost: 3)
  9. :can: :bwl: Anderson Cummins (cost: 1)
  10. ?
  11. :aus: :bwl: Glenn McGrath (cost: 3)
Budget Used: 22/25

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It is a bit of a surprise that more bowlers have not been picked from the current era of bowling. @qpeedore's merry band of associates apart, no one else boasts a bowling lineup that has three or more currently active bowlers. Most of them toil on roads that are excused as pitches which has forced every single bowler to possess more subtle variations than the entire bowling unit that a team would have had a couple of decades ago!

Amidst all of this, what if I told you that there was one pacer who has got a bowling average close to that of the greatest bowlers in ODI cricket despite playing his entire career in this bowler unfriendly era? He is the only one who has been the leading wicket-taker in two consecutive World Cups. In the previous decade, he is third for most wickets taken despite having played significantly lesser games than anyone in the top five (you would have to go all the way down to fifteen to find someone with lesser games played than him) and as a result has the second highest bowling average in this period and is one of the quickest to hundred wickets in ODIs. Now there are a few ifs and buts with him, such as his record being less impressive when considering his record with three of the five best teams of this decade. In this draft though with several teams having associate cricketers in the top seven, his ruthlessness will be a huge asset. But it must be remembered that due to his fitness record, his country have frequently not used him in ODIs. Another controversial thing to consider is that his team is not one of the top outfits currently. Their win-loss ratio over the last four years is perfectly balanced at just 1 (for comparison's sake, (the next best major team is New Zealand with 1.66) and for two years they did not win a single ODI series. This is a team with several gaping holes in their batting lineup which essentially means that the bowlers have to step up to win games and defend lower than par totals on several occasions.

For ODI cricket's deadliest bowler ever though, it is nothing more than a routine job. :aus::bwl:Mitchell Starc will add fiery pace and deadly yorkers to my side along with being a death overs expert and a handy tail-ender who will strengthen my batting depth.

  1. :sco::bat:Kyle Coetzer:bro:
  2. :zim::ar:Neil Johnson:slvo:
  3. :pak::bat:Zaheer Abbas:goldo:
  4. :saf::wkb:AB de Villiers:goldo:
  5. :hkg::ar:Mark Chapman:bro:
  6. :eng::wk:Jos Buttler:goldo:
  7. :can::ar:John Davison:bro:
  8. :nzf::ar:Richard Hadlee:goldo:
  9. :afg::ar:Rashid Khan:slvo:
  10. :aus::bwl:Mitchell Starc:goldo:
  11. ?
(This is turning out to be a seriously good side)

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Next is an all-rounder for me

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:afg: :ar: Mohammad Nabi

Statistics
ODI -
2782 runs @ 27.82 (1 hundred, 15 fifties, Highest 116) and 130 wickets @ 32.54 (BBI 4/30) in 124 Matches
List A - 3786 runs @ 29.12 (3 hundreds, 18 fifties, Highest 146) and 178 wickets @ 30.73 (1 5W, BBI 5/12) in 159 Matches

Cricinfo: "An efficient allrounder - a strong middle-order batsman who can bowl flighted offspin."
Mohammad Nabi is a very good all-rounder and is consistently ranked in top 10 in ODI rankings. He is the backbone of Afghanistan team. He also has experience of playing around the world in various domestic leagues.
He will offer spinning option and take up the 7th spot in the line-up, so that leaves a 1-point pick as an opener for me

1. :goldo: :wi: :ar: Chris Gayle
2.
3. :goldo: :saf: :ar: Jacques Kallis
4. :bro: :can: :wkb: Ashish Bagai
5. :slvo: :ire: :bat: Eoin Morgan
6. :goldo: :ind: :wkb: MS Dhoni
7. :slvo: :afg: :ar: Mohammad Nabi
8. :slvo: :zim: :ar: Heath Streak
9. :goldo: :aus: :bwl: Brett Lee
10. :goldo: :nzf: :bwl: Shane Bond
11. :slvo: :ban: :bwl: Abdur Razzak

Points used 24/25

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What, already?! Ah, damn.

Give me a little more time, I'll officially pick tonight.

I like my strike bowlers being referred to as my "merry band of associates" from @Bevab. But he makes an excellent point. In today's game a bowler must have at least one or two variations in order to even be considered for selection. Back as soon as the late 90s to maybe even the early 00's, any bowler having a cutter or a slower ball was considered a major asset to a limited overs team. Not so these days. Now it's more of "what makes YOUR slower ball so special?" Guys like Dwayne Bravo, who had more than one slower variation, were seen as something of a revelation. Bravo also had an effort ball early on in his career, that could get up to a good 10kmph faster than his usual pace, which would surprise a lot of batsmen.

That being said, a bowler has 6 legal deliveries per over and he can be absolutely wrong off of all 6. A batsman has to be wrong only once and he'll find himself walking back to the pavilion.

@Akshay. I knew someone would have picked Nabi sooner or later. What surprised me was that he was picked this late on. Nabi is a top-class spinner with more than adequate batting ability. My reason for picking Mujeeb over him was the wicket breakdowns and seeing that Mujeeb attacked the stumps more and as a preference, I like to see that. @ahmedleo414 picked Dan Vettori, who was on my shortlist of spinners too, but at the time I wasn't sure how the rest of my team was going to turn out and I wanted to keep a couple other NZ picks in mind for higher up the order.

So I'll edit this post a bit later to be the first one to complete my team and give my comments on my own selection.

EDIT: Okay, so first of all, a question that's on people's minds as to why I (mostly) post my reasons for edits. I understand that it can be annoying at times. In a completely different message board, there was a member that would change opinions in their original post based on replies given. Arguments happened because that member edited their posts, insisting that, "look at the original post, I never said as such" and so on. A moderator suggested that we should allow the "edited at" tag to be amended to posts. That only caused more drama. Eventually I, as invited admin, suggested that anytime someone edits they put in their post the reason why. That particular message board is long dead, but in fairness to everyone, I do think that people should know why I edited my posts. I'm sort of used to it, I don't expect everyone to accept it, but I do actually do a lot of edits.

Right.

So, I'm the first to complete my team. Even though I knew this from the start, it's still sort of now dawning on me. I can't make changes now. I need to make this choice.

Pakistan has had quite a history of debuting players in their teens. Which makes this guy's debut in his late 20s an interesting case. Some inter-department games early on. This guy was told by his coach in these middle-level cricket games that he has potential. But when you're in the Navy, all you want to do is be a naval officer, no matter how much you enjoy cricket.

It was a difficult decision for him to leave the Pakistan Navy and enter into the world of professional cricket. You'd never think so. The fastest to 1000 ODI runs, after just 18 innings and a year and a little. Average of 46, strike rate of 95.

Yet, I'd never want to teach any aspiring cricketer his technique. A high backlift as the bowler runs in. Reminds one of Lara. Except Lara would still be winding up as he danced down the pitch. I've not seen this guy move his feet much. I should clarify that...I've not seen this guy move his feet at all. He relies on pure timing to get the ball away. And has been effective. Look at those stats. Outside the off stump, he hits it through point or the covers. On the body, it goes behind square on the leg side. Short, he'll hit you over the onside.

You'd think that a batsman who doesn't move his legs at all would be a prime candidate for bowled or LBW. What baffles me is that he hasn't much. 8 of his 46 innings are bowled or LBW.

To complete my team, I'm picking Fakhar Zaman.

1. :pak: :bat: Fakhar Zahman - Attacking opener
2. :sco: :bat: Calum MacLeod - Facilitating opener/Attacker if 1 down
3. :ned: :bat: Tom Cooper - Accumulator/Hit out or get out
4. :wi: :ar: Carl Hooper (c) - Anchor/Second spinner
5. :sri: :ar: Angelo Mathews - Second accumulator/Hit out or get out/Bowler if needed
6. :ire: :ar: Kevin O'Brien - Hit out or get out/Bowler
7. :zim: :wk: Tatenda Taibu - Wicketkeeper/Tail-ender minder
8. :saf: :ar: Lance Klusener - Finisher/Bowler
9. :afg: :bwl: Mujeeb Ur Rahman - Bowler
10. :ban: :bwl: Mustafizur Rahman - Bowler
11. :usa: :bwl: Ali Khan -Bowler

Total points used - 24

Thoughts on my team:

- I'll get a hell of a lot of flak for picking a pure keeper in an ODI team. But as one of the best ever pure wicketkeepers and probably the first to transition into a wicketkeeper-batsman, Jeff Dujon once said (oh gosh, I'm still trying to find the YouTube link so I really am paraphrasing here) "When you had Greenidge, Haynes, Richards, Gomes, Lloyd, and probably Richardson coming before me, there wasn't really much I could add in terms of batting." I don't subscribe to the WKB theory in any form of cricket. Dhoni and Sangakarra are outliers. I still believe that even in ODI cricket there is a role for pure keepers. That being said, Taibu's career ended at the age of 29. I think if you gave him 3 more years at the international level, you'd have seen his average rise considerably.

- My strike bowlers are in their career infancy, so to speak. I wanted it that way. They will be hungry. They will attack. A few bad overs here and there can be covered by economical overs from my more experienced part-timers. Getting Ali Khan was something of a coup on my part, I think he could still be one of the bowlers most talked about once these lockdowns are over. Mustafizur has proven himself against all types of opposition, and Mujeeb has played a lot of matches against full members.

- I love my middle order. Carl Hooper adds stability, which, if he and Matthews bat together until about 35 overs, it allows Matthews to start hitting out. Then O'Brien is in with a license to hit. Then Klusener. If Hooper gets out, Taibu to bat with any of the three finishers.

- A weak point is my tail, which I referred to as my 9, 10, Jack. None of them can bat. Get this team 7 down and you're in with a chance to quickly get the rest out.

- @Aislabie had an excellent post where he said in any ODI team you need 11 players to have 15 roles. I do believe that I've covered those 15 roles in my team, but there is a slight overbalance that makes it potentially iffy.

So...I'm the first to finish my team. @Akshay. to complete his team next. I'm happy with my squad, not where I expected at the start of this draft, but I did get in a few of my first choice picks in and I think it's a modern competitive side.

(EDITx2: Just made the final team selection pretty and listed their roles. If Aislabie can tell me how he does that table thingy that he has, much appreciated.
 
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718 runs @ 27.61 (1 hundred, 2 fifties, Highest 151) in 26 Matches
List A - 1067 runs @ 22.22 (1 hundreds, 4 fifties, Highest 151) in 48 Matches

A bonus pick for me at the top with already 7 batsmen and 7 bowlers in the line-up
I had not planned this pick at the beginning but after picking Gayle and Dhoni, i decided to pick Nabi which added a bowling option as well and keep an opening spot vacant. So i found this player at the top, he scored 151 against an Irish line-up consisting of Rankin, Murtagh and Dockrell. Also has a 50 against UAE. A very good striker in t20 as well scoring at 130+. Also he is another keeper, but occasional.

So here's my line-up
8 batsman out of which 3 are keepers and 7 bowlers out of which, 4 are pacers and 3 spinners
1. :goldo: :wi: :ar: Chris Gayle
2. :bro: :png: :bat: Tony Ura
3. :goldo: :saf: :ar: Jacques Kallis
4. :bro: :can: :wkb: Ashish Bagai
5. :slvo: :ire: :bat: Eoin Morgan
6. :goldo: :ind: :wkb: MS Dhoni
7. :slvo: :afg: :ar: Mohammad Nabi
8. :slvo: :zim: :ar: Heath Streak
9. :goldo: :aus: :bwl: Brett Lee
10. :goldo: :nzf: :bwl: Shane Bond
11. :slvo: :ban: :bwl: Abdur Razzak

@Bevab to complete his line-up
 

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