Cricket 24 - General Discussion

[wasteyouryouth]

The deadeye throws are, effectively, a balance fix for the fielding system leaking lots of stolen runs to users through not being great at gathering at the stumps and making quick run outs.

If they could get the gathering at the stumps issue sorted then the issue of deadeye throws might not come up.

I'd be interested to know the direct hit % and dismissal % of infielders IRL vs the game.

Feels like in the game it must be least 90% direct hit rate. In real life, I'd be surprised if even the best fielders (at cover, point, mid on etc) are managing 50% in a match.

An issue I've always felt is clear; if the field is sat back on the edge of the circle then, just like real life, running a single is very much a good scoring option.

Moreover, if you are focussed on stopping the AI rotating for a single, plus have fielders with a high direct hit %, something is gonna give because the AI will eventually try to score.

 

[T.J.Hooker II]

There was one stage in DBC14 where it was absoute deadeye, never missed. Can't remember if that happened first and the compaints were about that or if there were complaints about easy singles first and the deadeye fielders happened later.

Some irl fielders genuinely are brilliant at hitting the stumps from inside the ring - Ponting, say - and you'd expect them to hit more than miss if they've got a nice angle at the stumps. Side on is very dificult tho, would expect to see a significant drop off.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

There was one stage in DBC14 where it was absoute deadeye, never missed. Can't remember if that happened first and the compaints were about that or if there were complaints about easy singles first and the deadeye fielders happened later.

Some irl fielders genuinely are brilliant at hitting the stumps from inside the ring - Ponting, say - and you'd expect them to hit more than miss if they've got a nice angle at the stumps. Side on is very dificult tho, would expect to see a significant drop off.

The problem is fielding records aren't nearly as well documented, even recently it's something that's probably maintained by teams but not recorded in your average Cricinfo scorecard page. Those combination catches you'll see are a great example of something that a team would be probably want to know if a player creates more opportunities pulling a ball back into the boundary that results in a catching opportunity. Yet on the scorecard it just goes down as caught by the player following up rather than as joint effort.

A bit of a Google yielded a couple of older articles about the lack of data around fielding and a tweet from 2021 stating that Temba Bavuma recored his fifth direct hit.

Ponting has the most run outs, 80 run outs across 717 innings, in the field in international cricket. One every nine innings. Even then, it's unclear if those 80 run outs are direct hits or run outs he's been involved in. So, say he achieved a direct hit once every third innings (239 times) that's still only 33% that result in a dismissal (if all 80 are direct hits). Some very speculative maths at 4am, so it's possible to have some issues there.

Of course, like you say, depending on where he's fielding from he might have much better numbers at certain fielding positions.

 

[Master Khan]

How do we interpret this???

When you have no competition then you can post stuff like this.

 

[T.J.Hooker II]

The problem is fielding records aren't nearly as well documented, even recently it's something that's probably maintained by teams but not recorded in your average Cricinfo scorecard page. Those combination catches you'll see are a great example of something that a team would be probably want to know if a player creates more opportunities pulling a ball back into the boundary that results in a catching opportunity. Yet on the scorecard it just goes down as caught by the player following up rather than as joint effort.

A bit of a Google yielded a couple of older articles about the lack of data around fielding and a tweet from 2021 stating that Temba Bavuma recored his fifth direct hit.

Ponting has the most run outs, 80 run outs across 717 innings, in the field in international cricket. One every nine innings. Even then, it's unclear if those 80 run outs are direct hits or run outs he's been involved in. So, say he achieved a direct hit once every third innings (239 times) that's still only 33% that result in a dismissal (if all 80 are direct hits). Some very speculative maths at 4am, so it's possible to have some issues there.

Of course, like you say, depending on where he's fielding from he might have much better numbers at certain fielding positions.

There are potentially lots of confounding factors.

One old cricket saying is that if both batsman go on cue as fast as they can you can run on anything. That's not literally true but the situation that exists in the game - where you press a button and both players set off at full speed no with no thought for self preservation - is pretty much the ideal configuration for stealing runs. In principle I would probably be in favour of the AI batting partner resisting really awful calls, though in practice the potential for being run out by the AI resisting a fair call might be an issue.

One thing we need there is for stealing runs to not work as a viable means of accumulating decent scores. In practice I'd guess anything over 1 in three probably works. Two or three stolen runs per run out isn't worth the bother.

Another thing is that you want better calls to actually work as better calls - as in, if you're taking a run to somebody who is side on and aiming at one stump, that's a different matter to hitting the ball straight to cover and giving him three stumps to aim at.

Also I would support mo capping Ponting's 2005 Gary Pratt walk off for especially egregious run outs but something tells me this is unlikely to happen.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

There are potentially lots of confounding factors.

One old cricket saying is that if both batsman go on cue as fast as they can you can run on anything. That's not literally true but the situation that exists in the game - where you press a button and both players set off at full speed no with no thought for self preservation - is pretty much the ideal configuration for stealing runs. In principle I would probably be in favour of the AI batting partner resisting really awful calls, though in practice the potential for being run out by the AI resisting a fair call might be an issue.

One thing we need there is for stealing runs to not work as a viable means of accumulating decent scores. In practice I'd guess anything over 1 in three probably works. Two or three stolen runs per run out isn't worth the bother.

Another thing is that you want better calls to actually work as better calls - as in, if you're taking a run to somebody who is side on and aiming at one stump, that's a different matter to hitting the ball straight to cover and giving him three stumps to aim at.

Also I would support mo capping Ponting's 2005 Gary Pratt walk off for especially egregious run outs but something tells me this is unlikely to happen.

I think the AI calling - while it could end up a disaster - would be a good addition to career mode, or any mode where you control only one player, if it were added.

 

[cricboi]

To be honest I don't even mind the deadeye when it's the AI fielding because it forces me to play a bit more realistically. It's already super easy to steal 2 on a ball hit directly at a boundary rider so having some type of punishment is a minor correction that disciplines me a bit more.

The bigger issue is that my own fielders have deadeye and I have to consciously not throw to the right end to ensure my tests don't end with 4 run outs per innings. When I beat the AI I want to take legit wickets and having to make intentional bad choices (throwing to the wrong end) to allow for this is super annoying.

I agree though with the poster who said it's a response to how bad fielders are at other things. I still can't believe they never fixed the bowler fielding, which worked significantly better in Cricket 19. That and the boundary fielder taking 5 seconds to kneel down while the AI runs 3 is just silly and completely amateur for a game of that has figured out how to do so many other things right. Even if the next model isn't a major step out, I hope they at least make some ground up in an area they have received so much feedback on.

 

[Muhammad shafiq]

hi guys any news from anywhere about #cricket24 .. ??

 

[Muhammad shafiq]

IGN also Waiting like us

 

[Muhammad shafiq]

whats this indian amazon showing Indian edition of Cricket24

 

[Pravain]

whats this indian amazon showing Indian edition of Cricket24

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Sellers in India have this version listed. Seems legit but no information from BA.

 

[Pinch hitter]

whats this indian amazon showing Indian edition of Cricket24

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But atleast in Indian edition, generated players names in career mode should sound genuine...

 

[Muhammad shafiq]

Sellers in India have this version listed. Seems legit but no information from BA.

its surely looks geniune as you know amazon is well known platform so i dont think they wil give such fake things .. so if indians having own editon what wil be difrnt with other edition ??

 

[Karachi]

its surely looks geniune as you know amazon is well known platform so i dont think they wil give such fake things .. so if indians having own editon what wil be difrnt with other edition ??

I have heard Amazon India has few charlatans dropping in on and off. But then again, I am not Indian so don't know the reality of it.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

its surely looks geniune as you know amazon is well known platform so i dont think they wil give such fake things .. so if indians having own editon what wil be difrnt with other edition ??

The cover from the looks of it