DBC 17 Batting post Patch 3

[riteshagl]

Scored a nice half century with rohit sharma with custom settings. I could really hit the ball all around the ground.
Shot timing 55
Footwork 50
Bowl influence 45
Shot difficulty 50

Increasing ball influence really affects what shots you can play on which balls. The higher value u put, its almost like on these set of deliveries u can only play this shot. For eg u can mostly hit to extra cover only if the ball is around 5th stump and if the ball is around off stump or 4th stump its extremely difficult to hit to extra cover. I find it little unrealistic as these days batsman have become extremely talented. Fine i understand a ball on leg stump and to an extent middle stump will not go to extra cover.
Hence, I recommend not to increase this more than 45. I think 45 is pretty balanced.

 

[Bluebagger]

So out of curiosity, what is it you would suppose should happen if you try to play a ball outside off to anywhere towards the legside?

Keep in mind that if your batsman is batting on off stump, or even further if you will, or moved there before bowler released the ball then you wont have a problem playing it to the legside as your batsman is in line with the ball.

An inside edge back on to the stumps would be great.

On a 5th to 6th stump line a good pitch should be able to be flicked and a shorter ball should be able to be pulled both through midwicket. Crickid in 2017'isn't as simple as everything outside off goes through off, anything straight and full goes down the ground and anything straight angling down leg goes through the onside

I find that with left handsets short balls that are on the 5-6 stump should be pulled because in the game they're too close to cut

 

[cricket_online]

Scored a nice half century with rohit sharma with custom settings. I could really hit the ball all around the ground.
Shot timing 55
Footwork 50
Bowl influence 45
Shot difficulty 50

Increasing ball influence really affects what shots you can play on which balls. The higher value u put, its almost like on these set of deliveries u can only play this shot. For eg u can mostly hit to extra cover only if the ball is around 5th stump and if the ball is around off stump or 4th stump its extremely difficult to hit to extra cover. I find it little unrealistic as these days batsman have become extremely talented. Fine i understand a ball on leg stump and to an extent middle stump will not go to extra cover.
Hence, I recommend not to increase this more than 45. I think 45 is pretty balanced.

Great investigation and pretty useful

One question for you @riteshagl ... do you by any chance know the gameplay modifier slider which we can tweak to reduce the number of times your batsman jumps to the leg to get bowled behind his legs? That's one thing that gets on my nerves and would love to reduce the value of the slider so my batsman doesn't jump to the off too often while playing leg glance.

 

[blockerdave]

Hang on, hang on, hang on... now this is getting outta hand the pull shot plays out, when people try and drive or glance towards leg from a full ball wide of off! ... what I've said 2 or 3 pages back (for all you morons) is that

Meaning....A PULL SHOT. More specifically meaning the only shot you should be trying to hit towards leg from a ball outside off (for the 3003rd time) is the PULL SHOT, But of course to play a pull shot you have to wait for the short one, nah? F#@k me drunk!!!

To a full ball? Bore off.

 

[blockerdave]

Am I hallucinating or has the hook animation changed and become much uglier? Or maybe before I was only pulling and now I'm only Hooking?? Dunno...

I mean the bottom line is before the patch the complaints about batting could be summed up as: 1) can't drive between point and cover and 2) no fine leg glance.

Now the complaints about batting are 1)timing is nixed 2)footwork is too sensitive* 3) wrong animations 4)wrong directions of shot.

I am slowly coming to terms with 1 and 2 but 3 and 4 keep me baffled. Sometimes the animation and direction are in synch withbeach other but not what I pressed, other times the animation and direction are contrary to each other but the animation is at least what I pressed.

My experience can be summed up thusly: before the patch I had played nearly every game through to a finish. Post patch - I've not completed a single match, entirely due to the batting issues.

 

[francobaldo1]

it took 4-5 months for dbc14 to find its "stable" form, may be the same for 17

 

[Gunslinger]

My experience can be summed up thusly: before the patch I had played nearly every game through to a finish. Post patch - I've not completed a single match, entirely due to the batting issues.

Exactly the same here. I love the game but the issues you described coupled with the unresponsive running between wickets that consistently results in run outs that shouldn't happen and didn't for me before patch 3, and I feel a little bit nonplused about the game right now. Looking forward to patch 4.

 

[kulch]

Do you reckon if you reduce the bowl influence slider we wont be dismissed as much with all greens (perfect stroke)?
Almost every dismissal i get is a nick/edge with all greens and its killing me. I dont want to leave the balls its a T20 grade competition. Some of the balls are way outside off and deserve punishment to the covers. Even yellow balls im edging with full greens.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Do you reckon if you reduce the bowl influence slider we wont be dismissed as much with all greens (perfect stroke)?
Almost every dismissal i get is a nick/edge with all greens and its killing me. I dont want to leave the balls its a T20 grade competition. Some of the balls are way outside off and deserve punishment to the covers. Even yellow balls im edging with full greens.

Looking at riteshagl's settings at the top of this page that have helped him, most of the alterations are not as reduced as some I've seen suggested, with the exception of bowl influence. I'm led to believe it'd be worth a try with that being the one change from your current settings for now to see if that alone makes big improvements or not.

 

[cricket_online]

Am I hallucinating or has the hook animation changed and become much uglier? Or maybe before I was only pulling and now I'm only Hooking?? Dunno...

There are two animations - one for pull and one for hook. The pull animation is what you get when you have right stick at 9'0 clock for a right hander. The weird hook animation kicks in when you sometimes go for a backfoot glance with right stick around 5'0 clock or thereabouts for a right hander.

 

[grkrama]

Scored a nice half century with rohit sharma with custom settings. I could really hit the ball all around the ground.
Shot timing 55
Footwork 50
Bowl influence 45
Shot difficulty 50

Increasing ball influence really affects what shots you can play on which balls. The higher value u put, its almost like on these set of deliveries u can only play this shot. For eg u can mostly hit to extra cover only if the ball is around 5th stump and if the ball is around off stump or 4th stump its extremely difficult to hit to extra cover. I find it little unrealistic as these days batsman have become extremely talented. Fine i understand a ball on leg stump and to an extent middle stump will not go to extra cover.
Hence, I recommend not to increase this more than 45. I think 45 is pretty balanced.

Great work rounding down on that ball influence.

regarding extra cover drive, ,can you try this and see if you can target extra cover region, if you play between 2-1 oclock in RS and 12 on LS. after increasing bowl influence above 45.

 

[grkrama]

Do you reckon if you reduce the bowl influence slider we wont be dismissed as much with all greens (perfect stroke)?

i think so, if more people can confirm the better. can you try playing with reducing only that slider and see.

 

[riteshagl]

Great investigation and pretty useful

One question for you @riteshagl ... do you by any chance know the gameplay modifier slider which we can tweak to reduce the number of times your batsman jumps to the leg to get bowled behind his legs? That's one thing that gets on my nerves and would love to reduce the value of the slider so my batsman doesn't jump to the off too often while playing leg glance.

That is footwork. I keep it at max 50. If i increase it to more than 50 the batsman jumps across and you get bowled pretty often. If i keep it at 45 it becomes pretty easy which i dont find challenging. But i think start with 40-45 and slowly move towards 50.

Edit: I honestly feel that the default easy/medium/hard settings (for batting) are pretty flawed and broken to an extent...it pretty much limits your playing style and there is lot of inconsistency in where you want to hit the ball and where it goes...i agree you should not be able to hit the ball wherever you want in any given delivery but there should be consistency in a way you are able to enjoy the game...i have recommended my custom settings to some of my friends and they are enjoying the game much more which honestly they had kept aside as they were not liking the experience as much...i recommend people to use the gameplay modifiers to get more out of the game...please dont get me wrong...i like the idea of shots according to delivery and footwork but the window is too small/sensitive at the moment...

 

[LittleBigPlanet]

Okay a very simple solution for those people complaining about the pull animation when trying to on drive or leg glance a ball to leg, just take your stance on off stump each time and it will open up the legside alot more and allow you to play those shots more consistently, if you have the same problems as before the balls too wide to be playing to leg. Hopefully that will help you understand a bit more.

 

[DemonicHuntsman]

Okay a very simple solution for those people complaining about the pull animation when trying to on drive or leg glance a ball to leg, just take your stance on off stump each time and it will open up the legside alot more and allow you to play those shots more consistently, if you have the same problems as before the balls too wide to be playing to leg. Hopefully that will help you understand a bit more.

I have started doing this when the opposition stack the offside and it helps a lot to play either side of mid on. I particularly do it to spinners as I feel vulnerable playing the cover drive/cut.