DBC 17 - The Complete Review! Please Answer the Poll!

[Alberts]

I'm thinking you two should get a room...

Alberts and varunschuey sitting in a tree, k, I, s, s, I, n, g. First comes love then comes marriage, then comes a baby in a golden carriage.

Considering we both spend time posting on here, I don't think even our combined resources could afford a golden carriage.

 

[Brentismaximas]

Come on boet, have you played the game and tried to cut?

Late reply, but that is just BS man. Who the hell was responsible for that shit.

 

[FaWaD]

Late reply, but that is just BS man. Who the hell was responsible for that shit.

Lol and I actually have some captures where the ball was thrown at the stumps but hit he fielder standing in between on his head. He didn't even react when it was thrown towards him while the keeper here is proactive.

 

[Brentismaximas]

Lol and I actually have some captures where the ball was thrown at the stumps but hit he fielder standing in between on his head. He didn't even react when it was thrown towards him while the keeper here is proactive.

Bahahahaha. I was almost run out last night as a fielder threw the ball at the stumps. But luckily the wicket keeper dived from metres away to stop the ball. Phew that was close!
But later I aggressively smashed for the fence, hit the bowler in the face, full force, bounced up and back over my head straight to the wicket keeper. Out! Zero reaction from a smiling bowler.

 

[Mitchell's Johnson]

Bahahahaha. I was almost run out last night as a fielder threw the ball at the stumps. But luckily the wicket keeper dived from metres away to stop the ball. Phew that was close!
But later I aggressively smashed for the fence, hit the bowler in the face, full force, bounced up and back over my head straight to the wicket keeper. Out! Zero reaction from a smiling bowler.

In better made next gen sports game that would result in a real-time injury. For example, in MLB The Show if you hit the pitcher in the head he falls down injured and leaves the game. Similar thing for the NBA 2k series.

In BigAnt's pathetic excuse of a sport game, when the ball hits the body and it goes for runs the umpire calls it as byes. They haven't even got the rules right FFS, yet alone real time injures.

I remember in Cricket 97 when the batsman got hit in the head they would fall down and occasionally hit their own wickets. 20 years on....

 

[Brentismaximas]

In better made next gen sports game that would result in a real-time injury. For example, in MLB The Show if you hit the pitcher in the head he falls down injured and leaves the game. Similar thing for the NBA 2k series.

In BigAnt's pathetic excuse of a sport game, when the ball hits the body and it goes for runs the umpire calls it as byes. They haven't even got the rules right FFS, yet alone real time injures.

I remember in Cricket 97 when the batsman got hit in the head they would fall down and occasionally hit their own wickets. 20 years on....

Bloody expensive to make a game these days though. Imagine the budget MLB The Show must have. Great games btw. I been playing MLB since 07. I like how they add new things every year and never take stuff out for the new game.
I like DBC 17. I just want them to fix things so it can be better.

 

[varunschuey]

Bloody expensive to make a game these days though. Imagine the budget MLB The Show must have. Great games btw. I been playing MLB since 07. I like how they add new things every year and never take stuff out for the new game.
I like DBC 17. I just want them to fix things so it can be better.

Check out a PS 2 game called Hot Shots Tennis....it has around 15 different players......they have different height and weight.....different runnig speeds.....completely different shot animations.....explicitly different strengths and weaknesses and varied celebrations.

In addition the game has around 15 different courts and all of them have their own unique characteristics, bounce, physics etc.

You can even smash the opposite player in the face while dueling at the net, get in the way of your partner's shot while playing doubles, hit the umpire's chair etc. The ball physics is completely live and there are no canned or scripted sequences.

All this and much more in a very low budget, 12 year old PS 2 game......this vividly demonstrates that you don't need FIFA or MLB type budgets to make a perfectly working and superb game.

All that a game needs is for a developer to be passionate, have Common Sense and put in honest effort and resources. You can cut out the bells and whistles and still make an awesome game like Hot Shot Tennis.

Sadly Bigant are....never mind.

 

[Deleted member 46200]

Check out a PS 2 game called Hot Shots Tennis....it has around 15 different players......they have different height and weight.....different runnig speeds.....completely different shot animations.....explicitly different strengths and weaknesses and varied celebrations.

In addition the game has around 15 different courts and all of them have their own unique characteristics, bounce, physics etc.

You can even smash the opposite player in the face while dueling at the net, get in the way of your partner's shot while playing doubles, hit the umpire's chair etc. The ball physics is completely live and there are no canned or scripted sequences.

All this and much more in a very low budget, 12 year old PS 2 game......this vividly demonstrates that you don't need FIFA or MLB type budgets to make a perfectly working and superb game.

All that a game needs is for a developer to be passionate, have Common Sense and put in honest effort and resources. You can cut out the bells and whistles and still make an awesome game like Hot Shot Tennis.




Sadly Bigant are....never mind.

I have looked at a lot of the gameplay advice from a lot of the chaps and being honest my gameplay experience has got better ergo it's not a bad game. have no idea about the game you are talking about not sure I was alive then (not calling you old). Being honest every game I have played has had problems this is a fact we as consumers of the video games industry have to consider as long as there is an end product of such quality. I do feel Big ant are working towards it, they are not a big company but an innovative company with the right attitude. Going forwards they can only get better and gain more ground.
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Sorry the above was a reply to you (tired).

 

[Deleted member 46200]

I have looked at a lot of the gameplay advice from a lot of the chaps and being honest my gameplay experience has got better ergo it's not a bad game. have no idea about the game you are talking about not sure I was alive then (not calling you old). Being honest every game I have played has had problems this is a fact we as consumers of the video games industry have to consider as long as there is an end product of such quality. I do feel Big ant are working towards it, they are not a big company but an innovative company with the right attitude. Going forwards they can only get better and gain more ground.[DOUBLEPOST=1483835264][/DOUBLEPOST]Sorry the above was a reply to you (tired).

 

[Fissionmailed]

All this and much more in a very low budget,

Only having the backing from Sony, must've been low budget.

 

[varunschuey]

Yay! Dbc 17 has players with hands and legs and also noses. Wow! It's great that they are also developing ears for them..We should be grateful.

 

[Fissionmailed]

Ah yes all games with simple cartoony graphics must have low budgets.


Not sure if that's what you are saying? I'll happily back down if you can find figures that say otherwise.

 

[Alberts]

Check out a PS 2 game called Hot Shots Tennis....it has around 15 different players......they have different height and weight.....different runnig speeds.....completely different shot animations.....explicitly different strengths and weaknesses and varied celebrations.

In addition the game has around 15 different courts and all of them have their own unique characteristics, bounce, physics etc.

You can even smash the opposite player in the face while dueling at the net, get in the way of your partner's shot while playing doubles, hit the umpire's chair etc. The ball physics is completely live and there are no canned or scripted sequences.

All this and much more in a very low budget, 12 year old PS 2 game......this vividly demonstrates that you don't need FIFA or MLB type budgets to make a perfectly working and superb game.

All that a game needs is for a developer to be passionate, have Common Sense and put in honest effort and resources. You can cut out the bells and whistles and still make an awesome game like Hot Shot Tennis.

Sadly Bigant are....never mind.

I'm going to have to assume you're a troll now. You're actually using a game made by a Sony second party developer as your example, a company with huge financial might behind it? It wasn't some minor title by an indie dev.

Getting beyond that, the physics and control don't look overly impressive, and the game is drastically less complicated. Tennis physics aren't hard to get right, having two-four people on a field isn't hard to get right. Like, I genuinely have no idea what point you're trying to make at this point. If you don't like DBC 17 for the reasons you're now getting into, then you clearly didn't like DBC 14 for the same reasons. If you don't like the series, why are you wasting your time at this point?

Do you want to know some games where you can power a ball into someone's face without appropriate reactions though? FIFA and PES, two of the biggest budget sports games out there. You want to know some glitchy games that generally take several patches to get right? FIFA and PES, though in all fairness PES has had a few good years on that front, and EA just don't care enough to fix such things anymore as long as that sweet ultimate team money is flowing in. This year alone though, both FIFA and PES have bugs, albeit rare, that involve a goal not being given if it enters at just the wrong angle against the post. This despite having absolutely enormous budgets. The licencing for Barcelona for PES alone is likely more than the lifetime budget for the Don Bradman series, and by an order of magnitude at that. FIFA spend likely more than that on marketing alone.

 

[varunschuey]

I'm going to have to assume you're a troll now. You're actually using a game made by a Sony second party developer as your example, a company with huge financial might behind it? It wasn't some minor title by an indie dev.

Getting beyond that, the physics and control don't look overly impressive, and the game is drastically less complicated. Tennis physics aren't hard to get right, having two-four people on a field isn't hard to get right. Like, I genuinely have no idea what point you're trying to make at this point. If you don't like DBC 17 for the reasons you're now getting into, then you clearly didn't like DBC 14 for the same reasons. If you don't like the series, why are you wasting your time at this point?

Do you want to know some games where you can power a ball into someone's face without appropriate reactions though? FIFA and PES, two of the biggest budget sports games out there. You want to know some glitchy games that generally take several patches to get right? FIFA and PES, though in all fairness PES has had a few good years on that front, and EA just don't care enough to fix such things anymore as long as that sweet ultimate team money is flowing in. This year alone though, both FIFA and PES have bugs, albeit rare, that involve a goal not being given if it enters at just the wrong angle against the post. This despite having absolutely enormous budgets. The licencing for Barcelona for PES alone is likely more than the lifetime budget for the Don Bradman series, and by an order of magnitude at that. FIFA spend likely more than that on marketing alone.

Keep defending pathetic cricket games and end up with the same. You don't address the core points....

1. This is not the first version of DBC....so they are not building it from scratch but the game is worse than its predecessor in core areas such as Cameras, Batting, Stats etc. HOW?

2. How can you drastically regress from a previous game in major areas and only marginally improve in others is a trick that I cannot decipher. Maybe Houdini can.

3. How did Bigant release a game with such glaring showstoppers.....was it not hitting you in the face apparent....as it was to most within 2-3 hours of playing the game?

4. Some guys here stated that the game is in its Development Stage and we should give them time. So did we pay for a game that is not finished...did Bigant declare that this an officially unfinished product?

So, instead of attacking me....answer all of these points one by one....do not pick and choose and digress....then we can have a real discussion.

 

[Alberts]

Keep defending pathetic cricket games and end up with the same. You don't address the core points....

1. This is not the first version of DBC....so they are not building it from scratch but the game is worse than its predecessor in core areas such as Cameras, Batting, Stats etc. HOW?

2. How can you drastically regress from a previous game in major areas and only marginally improve in others is a trick that I cannot decipher. Maybe Houdini can.

3. How did Bigant release a game with such glaring showstoppers.....was it not hitting you in the face apparent....as it was to most within 2-3 hours of playing the game?

4. Some guys here stated that the game is in its Development Stage and we should give them time. So did we pay for a game that is not finished...did Bigant declare that this an officially unfinished product?

So, instead of attacking me....answer all of these points one by one....do not pick and choose and digress....then we can have a real discussion.

1. To my understanding this is built on a new engine. Their focus was getting key elements in the feel of the game right, and that seems to have worked beyond some very specific issues.

2. This isn't even a point, this is just more hyperbole. I think you need to learn the difference between a core point and vague ramblings.

3. The game is fun to play, the biggest issue with the game (the crashing) is a problem that occurs due to community content. Ideally they'd have picked that up in QA, but these things happen, and they've taken steps to prevent issues while solving the core issue. Beyond that, there exist no "showstoppers" just some specific bugs that they are working to fix.

4. All games that are still being patched are in the development state. Crusader Kings II was released in 2012 and is still receiving overhauls in patches. The game shipped in a playable state and many people are happy with it.

At this point your bizarre ramblings are just making you look like a crazy person, ultimately undermining your point. Stick to the core concerns, do it calmly, and see what the next patch has in store. Your ranting at this point is helping no one, but what it is doing is building you a reputation of being point blank insane, and incapable of careful, considered, and reasoned discussion about games. Unless that's what you're going for then it would be advisable to work on your tone and overuse of hyperbole.