Debate:: Space Exploration

Pak_cricketer said:
Well saving millions of lives, I think is far more important..
I think you could start there by getting rid of the corrupt governments running alot of these poorer countries, or getting rid of some of the corruption at the very least rather than picking on NASA or any other space agency.
 
Well, you need to target those countries then, whoever has a lot of money should look to save others for the good of himself. He or She is doing a good deed, and in the end that is what should matter.
 
duffarama said:
I beleive that the US just wan't to get to Mars is because they want to claim it for themselves. Hence, becoming more powerful. When you think about it, the only reason why they want to create a base on the moon is so when there is a war they can launch attacks from the moon. (like a command centre)
It is all strategic and tactical. If the US have more control and power (such as Mars and the Moon), the countries who take arms up against them will be damn scared.
You can't benefit anything from Mars and the Moon except for the land itself.
You been reading Robert Heinlein, Duff?


Exploring space is a good idea. As Kev said, we are adventurers. If we didn't explore or invent, we certainly wouldn't be having this discussion on an internet forum now. There certainly are many areas of the Earth we currently know little about, but I'm sure these are being researched (if not visited) at the moment anyway.

We are now conducting research and experiments in space that are not possible on earth - some of which may even be beneficial :) Follow this here link for details on the International Space Station.

International Space Station

Those who want to explore space will do. Also, those who want to find more species of rare octopus will attempt to. I'm fully in favour of both.
 
ZoraxDoom said:
In my opinion, weapons should be abolished. No more money should be spent on warfare.
Do you know -and this is a fact- then TEN TIMES the amount of money it would take to feed the poor in Africa is SPENT ON WARFARE AROUND THE WORLD. Imagine all the good it would do to humanity to banish warfare. I mean, whats to gain from warfare? More hungry people? More diseases? Killing our brothers ans sisters? Destroying the enviroment we live in?
Haha, thats funny.

Ok, let's go by your idea and major western countries like the US, GB and Australia spent no money on weaponary and security. The little terrorists would be rubbing there weak ass hands togethor.
 
kevmead said:
I think you could start there by getting rid of the corrupt governments running alot of these poorer countries, or getting rid of some of the corruption at the very least rather than picking on NASA or any other space agency.
That's rightly put actually. If people are dying or getting ingnored is solely because of the conditions they have in their country and the govts. and citizens are collectively reponsible for that. And the less I say on this topic further is better otherwise may lead to flaming war here.
As far as Space Exploration is concerned, it should continue just the way it is. going out in space makes human race more intelligent and knowledgeable of their existence. Remember Earth's resources are depleting. In fact, in your or my lifetime, we will experience petroleum resources drying up completely. So the faster they can inhabit another planet, the better humans are off. There are some alternatives though but powerful govts. worldwide are not ready to accept them all thanks to bureaucracy. And that's also the reason why we are seeing slow advancements in Health and Medicine sector. Enough money is being flown in but there are some shabby bureaucratic rules that have to be followed which hinder a lot of inventions.
 
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kevmead said:
I think you could start there by getting rid of the corrupt governments running alot of these poorer countries, or getting rid of some of the corruption at the very least rather than picking on NASA or any other space agency.
Great point. So may governments in Africa are corrupt its not funny. Even to a lesser extent, look at India, there government is corrupt isnt it? And there's a bit of poverty there right? (Don't flame, lets talk about facts)

And yes, space exploration is the future.
 
.::Stevo::. said:
Great point. So may governments in Africa are corrupt its not funny. Even to a lesser extent, look at India, there government is corrupt isnt it? And there's a bit of poverty there right? (Don't flame, lets talk about facts)

And yes, space exploration is the future.
Laul, you don't wanna know about India.:D You should get enough indications by the ongoings in BCCI and Ganguly issue.
 
siddharth2002 said:
Laul, you don't wanna know about India.:D You should get enough indications by the ongoings in BCCI and Ganguly issue.
Havn't heard of it :confused:
 
Agree with the chaps like Freddiefan and Kevmead, all pretty much spot on.

In my head I have an idea, but unfortunately the feasibility of it being implemented is approximate to Monty Panesar hitting a double test century in an hour.

So I'll bore you all with it anyway ;)

To start with the Earths resources are plentiful. So are the man-made resources. If you were to build Wind generators in all the areas in the World that produce wind. Water Power in all the water areas, wave power in all the wave, Solar Panels in all the sunny areas and grew crops and food in all the climates that suited them etc....

You'd have plenty of everything. If everything was then shared around the world you'd practically erase things like poverty, starvation etc...

Jobs would be plentiful....

However, before any of this could ever happen -

Religions and the way they are interpreted would have to be altered/re-empthasised/abandoned.

Nationalities would have to become meangingless.

Borders and terrority eroded.

Corruption eliminated - It is all these points where the ideas cave in.
 
puddleduck said:
Agree with the chaps like Freddiefan and Kevmead, all pretty much spot on.

In my head I have an idea, but unfortunately the feasibility of it being implemented is approximate to Monty Panesar hitting a double test century in an hour.

So I'll bore you all with it anyway ;)

To start with the Earths resources are plentiful. So are the man-made resources. If you were to build Wind generators in all the areas in the World that produce wind. Water Power in all the water areas, wave power in all the wave, Solar Panels in all the sunny areas and grew crops and food in all the climates that suited them etc....

You'd have plenty of everything. If everything was then shared around the world you'd practically erase things like poverty, starvation etc...

Jobs would be plentiful....

However, before any of this could ever happen -

Religions and the way they are interpreted would have to be altered/re-empthasised/abandoned.

Nationalities would have to become meangingless.

Borders and terrority eroded.

Corruption eliminated - It is all these points where the ideas cave in.
That's actually the ideal world but the problem is, human nature defines and says that one human cannot prosper and/or tolerate alongside another human's prosperity and health and religions just add more spice to the equation.
 
It is a fact that excessive amount is spent on Space Exploration, which could be better served if it is used for welfare of our own planet.

However, space exploration is important in its own way. Imagine if our ancient scientists had not spent on new discoveries and inventions, thinking that it would be a waste of money. Then, all the inventions that we use today would not have been possible.

Hence, although space exploration is important, suitable priority must be given to it after considering various needs of our own planet as well.
 
ZoraxDoom said:
I've made this site a few days back:
http://www.freewebs.com/helpsavehumanity/

If anyone knows ho to add a guestbook, PM me and we'll discuss.

If I remember from experience, you have to wait a week then they let you have a guestbook. Its all changed now though...

Had a look. You need to improve the form, add a button. I figured out that you had to press enter, but other people might not. Also, it came up with an error saying the accounts email address was not valid.
 
Thats the problem, to add a button and to save data you have to be a subscriber. Hence I need help to add an external guestbook.
Know any other site which could help me here?
 
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