Don Bradman Cricket 17 General Discussion

[Dutch]

I don't know if it is something people would class as 'info' - but I'm currently doing some work re-scripting the commentary. If anyone has some lines they think would sound good after hearing them 1000 times, I'd be happy to hear them.

If there's a lot of interest in that, I'll split out a new thread.

Depends on the "goal" of the commentary: will it be much more informative in terms of gameplay than it has been or just descriptive if you see what I mean?

 

[MattW]

Depends on the "goal" of the commentary: will it be much more informative in terms of gameplay than it has been or just descriptive if you see what I mean?

Yeah, certainly trying to get it to be far more informative and analytical about things.

Part of it with scripting is being able to work backwards - write the line and then figure out how to get the game to call it at the right time. Problem is trying to preempt as many match situations as possible to be able to genuinely sound informative, rather than "x team will want to score more runs, the other team would want a wicket" kind of stuff.

 

[zwarrior]

Maybe you can try something like "He will be under pressure to get some quick runs" and call it in T20 and ODI when the required run rate goes over say, 7+.

 

[Dutch]

Yeah, certainly trying to get it to be far more informative and analytical about things.

Part of it with scripting is being able to work backwards - write the line and then figure out how to get the game to call it at the right time. Problem is trying to preempt as many match situations as possible to be able to genuinely sound informative, rather than "x team will want to score more runs, the other team would want a wicket" kind of stuff.

Sounds good: so it would be helpful for a player to hear the pundit talking about the type of pitch and what "he" would do in that kind of situation: So play more on the front foot, bowl shorter or fuller, need to bowl more on off stump and have more protection in the covers,.....are we talking about this kind of thing? Or will the game not be able to cater to that kind of feedback?

 

[MattW]

are we talking about this kind of thing?

Yes, along those lines. I don't want to be too strong with that yes, as I'm hesitant talking about things that are planned rather than implemented, but it's certainly the aim.

 

[bestfriendh]

I don't know if it is something people would class as 'info' - but I'm currently doing some work re-scripting the commentary. If anyone has some lines they think would sound good after hearing them 1000 times, I'd be happy to hear them.

If there's a lot of interest in that, I'll split out a new thread.

No commentary would be complete without the "Tracer Bullet" line

 

[Llewelynf]

I remember Brian Lara 99 and how the commentary was little anecdotes from Shane Warne and others, that made it "real" in a sense. I hope there are ways of doing that in the next edition.

 

[blockerdave]

Yeah, certainly trying to get it to be far more informative and analytical about things.

Part of it with scripting is being able to work backwards - write the line and then figure out how to get the game to call it at the right time. Problem is trying to preempt as many match situations as possible to be able to genuinely sound informative, rather than "x team will want to score more runs, the other team would want a wicket" kind of stuff.

and this is the key, and it ties in with what i said previously about contextual to the human player.

so a four is scored. am i batting or bowling. if batting - is it the first four in a while, have i eased the pressure? is it my 3rd four of the over? was it a well timed shot or an edge through a vacant slip area.

i want to hear things like:
he's eased the pressure that was building, that's the first boundary for (x) overs(in tests)/balls(in limited overs).
he's really on top of the bowler - that's his third four of this over.
he's got lucky with that edge through the vacant 2nd slip, but he's forced the captain to go defensive with his brilliant batting throughout the innings
he's continued his great timing with that shot
he's been struggling to time shots in this innings, but that shot shows he's beginning to find his form

if bowling:
he's let the batsman ease the pressure that was building after the tight bowling / dot balls / maidens
he keeps bowling those four balls and can't build the pressure
he's going to be taken out of the attack if he can't tighten up
how unlucky, he's found the edge but it's gone into space and raced for four

everything should be contextual not just to the format and match situation, but what the player is doing, and how they've been performing over the innings / span of several overs etc.

 

[blockerdave]

i'd also keep "anecdote" or whatever type stuff limited and connected to achievements: i.e. a player scores his first hundred, we can here an anecdote from the commentator about how special it was, how he remembers his etc.

a long partnership in a test match (and i'd define this as a single partnership for >1.5 sessions, both batsmen 100+ if top order) and we can hear about how the commentator dealt with a similar situation etc.

stuff like this will make them rarer, and they will get boring slower.[DOUBLEPOST=1458139569][/DOUBLEPOST]anything like call the nurse, you've gotta be kidding me, etc. anything remotely jokey or catchphrasey must not be allowed.

i'd make a single exception on that: if you bowl 2 consecutive maidens with an off-spinner, the next ball by the off-spinner should be called as "he's given that a fearsome tweak" just as a loving call-back to DBC14.

 

[Fantazm]

"very ordinary cricket there"

 

[UnknownSoul]

''It's in the air............... & Safe.''

 

[Ajh1977]

I would like to hear things that are reactive to the game in progress or the immediate incident.
Things like-
*He's nicked that but got away with it.
*that's not where he was aiming but it's gone for 4 anyway.
*lovely shot, that's fairly raced away.
*batsman need to up the rate, maybe look to rotate more as the boundaries aren't coming.
*the bowlers are well on top here, the batsman need to get through this spell.
*4 runs, that's eased the pressure.
*that's another 4/easy runs again through (that area), they need to put a fielder out there.

I am hoping that the commentary this time is more tactically aware and giving analytical feedback as well as advice. also things like approaching milestones should be mentioned and what kind of form the player is in.
*that's his third 50 in his last four inns.
*that's his highest score this year/in career.
*that's a new highest score for a fifth wicket partnership (for series/career/county/country)

I like the idea of the commentators mentioning memories when a player reaches a milestone or debut etc.

 

[Deleted member 149013]

Gone!!! When a wicket is taken it is just one simple word but would give the feel of the commentary running with the game and add atmosphere.

 

[Fantazm]

"the england middle order have collapsed again"

 

[Deleted member 9102]

I've not played much DBC14 since I came back to uni in September, and today is the first time I've seen this thread - very pleased to hear there will be a PC version on Steam again!

I pretty much never pre-order games or buy on day one, but I will for this. Big Ant were (and still are) excellent in so many respects throughout the life cycle of DBC14 - updates/support, community presence/interaction, honesty etc.